Kazzong

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Genesis Wave is rather good when you have a ton of mana, since it allows you so pretty much dump your whole deck onto the battlefield all at once.

The drawback is that it dumps any non permanent spell into the graveyard, which lead the stampede doesn't do. So you are not depriving yourself of drawing any other potential win conditions or removal spells like Wave tends to do. Again, that is from personal experience using Genesis Wave.

So really there are pros and cons to both cards. Either way, I would say pick what you like best, not what I like best. Your deck. Not mine. :)

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Posted 08 February 2018 at 15:01 in reply to #611457 on Bonfire Defender

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Yeah, I noticed that. I suppose when I built the original deck (which I do own) I noticed it tended to run out of cards rather quickly, and I started top-decking after only about 5-6 turns. So I figured a little draw couldn't hurt. Particularly since only a few of my creatures could actually give me a win, since I don't run with assault formation.

My solution for the original deck was Genesis wave, which lead the stampede replaced in the pauper version.
I suppose I wanted another outlet for the crazy amounts of mana the deck could generate.

That being said, I think lead the stampede is totally fine and should work very well here. I imagine it will be putting at least 2-3 creatures in your hand for each use.


And yeah, imagine an opening hand with 3 forests, 3 shield spheres, and an assault formation. Lol... Turn two, sing for 12, turn 3 swing for 18.

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Posted 08 February 2018 at 03:36 in reply to #611457 on Bonfire Defender

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I hope*. Lol... Stupid autocorrect...

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Posted 08 February 2018 at 01:18 in reply to #611457 on Bonfire Defender

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Not bad. Greenbelt Ravager is certainly cheap to play, and having a 3/4 for 1 mana is pretty good.
Not sure I care for the hellion though, because I can't see it staying on the battlefield more than one or two turns. And having very few creatures to begin with means that we need our creatures have a little more staying power.

Druid of the cowl is pretty good. Mana producing creatures are almost never a bad choice.

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Posted 08 February 2018 at 01:08 in reply to #611416 on Inspired by Kazzong

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OK. So I think we can improve your creatures a little. While a 3/3 for 3 mana isn't bad, I bet we can get more value from a creature that much, or less.
I do kind of like the bloodrage brawler. A 4/3 for 2 mana is pretty good.
I think you might get use from a creature that draws you cards, so you don't run out to quickly.

What do you think? What do you feel might be useful here?

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 23:58 in reply to #611416 on Inspired by Kazzong

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Fascinating. Similar to mine, but certainly unique, and a little different. I think assault formation is an excellent choice here as another win condition, particularly with shield sphere.

The only thing I might look into changing is your dig spell. I would be curious to see if you think there could be something better than lead the stampede in modern, or casual I guess since shield sphere prevents modern legality.

On the whole. This gets a +1 from me. I bore it serves you well.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 23:49 as a comment on Bonfire Defender

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the deck plays out like a slightly slower elves, with a burn finisher.

throwing out a genesis wave for 10+ on turn 4 feels really good.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 03:26 in reply to #611415 on Pauper defender

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lol... no worries. you used to be able to actually put hyperlinks in comments, but the administrators felt that might be abused in some way, so we can't anymore.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 03:09 in reply to #611410 on Modern deck colorless

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well, if you are interested I actually have two other versions of this,
a modern version:
www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/modern-legal-defender-deck/

and a vintage and legacy legal casual version:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/defender-deck/
(happens to be the most popular defender deck on the vault.)

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 03:07 in reply to #611415 on Pauper defender

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ok. very interesting.

so you have a solid base. now you need to support it.
as a new deck builder, you want a simple deck ratio. creature, non-creatures, and lands.
about 20 of each.

so you might pick your 10-15 auras, and some non aura cards that you think might help you out in some way,
add some more creatures that work well with aura cards. like... I think there is a wolf and an elf that have a similar ability...

and then of course 16 or so basic lands in this case mountains and forests, and something like evolving wilds to make sure you have the colors you want when you need them.

red green auras is an interesting combination. I rather like it.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 03:02 as a comment on Inspired by Kazzong

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ok. so here are my newbie decks. each of them is a single color, designed to be simple and easy to understand.

in order of complexity, from easiest to hardest:
white:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/mono-white-newbie/
this deck uses auras to pump creatures.


green:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/mono-green-newbie-2/
this is a mana ramp deck that uses small creatures that make mana quickly to put out large creatures quickly.


red:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/mono-red-newbie/
This is a burn deck. that uses cheap creatures and direct damage spells to quickly deal damage.

black:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/mono-black-newbie/
This is a control deck, that uses removal and discard spells to keep the opponent from building a board presence, while chipping away at their health slowly.

blue:
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/mono-blue-newbie/
this is a pure control deck that uses counter spells and mana denial to keep the opponent from playing cards, while drawing lots of cards to give you an advantage.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:52 as a comment on Modern deck colorless

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sure. I will post the links there. :)

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:36 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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if you would like some examples, I have a series of decks that I and my brother made to show new people kind of the core of what each color does in a simple, easy to understand way. If you would like to see them I can post a link to each of them either here or on your colorless deck. only if you want of course.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:27 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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if you like blue, you might like counter cards and control decks, that lets you prevent your opponent from playing spells, and slowing them down until you can put out a huge expensive card like... pearl lake ancient, or the new Elder Dinosaur... who's name escapes me at the moment.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:23 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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well, hang on. it really depends on what kind of deck you want to build, and what you like to play.

I would say to pick a color or two to start with. and look for a card of that color that you think is really fun.

for example:
you might like green. and you really like Aura Gnarlid. 2/2 for 2G, which can only be blocked by creatures who are at least as big as it. and it gets bigger for every aura card on the battlefield. so in that case you would try to find lots of aura cards to pump your creatures to be really big, and protect them.

if you like white, you might look at a card like... Elesh Norn, who pumps all your creatures, and makes your opponents smaller. and find lots of ways to put out small creatures easily. like tokens perhaps.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:20 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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Now that is an excellent question. :)

There are many ways to build a good deck.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:10 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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Ah. That makes more sense. Budget then. :)

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:06 in reply to #611393 on Modern deck colorless

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OK. What is your question?

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:04 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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So... What is this deck supposed to do? Not sure I see the theme.

Also, this isn't pauper format. Pauper requires every card in the deck to be a common level rarity (or at least it must have been printed at common at some point).

Perhaps you are thinking budget, which focuses on decks that cost very little to buy. though not really a format but rather a way of deck building for any format. And this deck certainly fits in the budget category.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 02:04 as a comment on Modern deck colorless

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Lol. No worries.
You seem to be new. Love people coming to the vault. Also, I would be happy to look at your deck.

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Posted 07 February 2018 at 01:42 in reply to #611343 on Pauper defender

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