EthanLewis

I like this man, but after playing with surgical extraction a fair bit, I found that 4 was too much. Like, if you're extracting, you're going to be exiling a lot of cards, not sending them to the grave. Which makes surgical extraction half useless. I know have you duress and inquisitions as such, but I still think you'd be better off going 3 extraction and maybe 4 obliterator.

You're more experienced in this field though, so... your call, haha

Hahahaha, that's like my friend today, he was playing RDW and I was playing big red, and allll we could say was puns. :P
"This match up is really.... hot"
"You killed my guide!" "...burn"
"That's heattttt"

Hahaha, I love big red. :3

and EDH doesn't have to be a bank breaker, you're right. But I like going all out. :P

it may catch a few people off guard... but i feel that any ability, thats not backed up by impressive mana cost or a ridiculous power/toughness (abyssal persecutor, for example) is just a waste of mana... 1 doom blade can end it all.
sure, there are exceptions, but i like all my cards serving a very well needed purpose.

I've been meaning to try EDH, but lately money's just not there... with the release of the commander decks though, more people are getting into it, which edges me more to do so as well.

and in regards to your last comment, i love hexproof. its just so good. I hope to see a bangin' hexproof troll. :3 like thrun... but not, hahaha. a man can dream.

and i think bloodthirst is lame... :/ but i can see where you're going. It only takes 1 card to define a set... *cough* jace

I don't think boros is standard will survive :/ It's not nearly as fast without stoneforge. I think goblins will just be better... goblins, MBC, Valakut, Tezz... I think they'll truly dominate.

and what makes you so sure with m12? :O I hope black will tear shit up, because I love black. (i love prettty much every color, but black is so bad ass)

and yes, extractors are very skilled. they must be, if you're going to cripple a deck, you need to know what makes it tick. if you dont.... good luck, lol

yeah... extractions a tough deck to play, for sure. i gave up.... LOL

And I think boros.... is dead. Like sure, stoneforge wasnt it's only good card, but it made it tournament worthy. without it... meh. not nearly as good.
m12 might bring a new boros card, but I HIGHLY doubt it.

Wow, thanks man! : ) I guess we'll eventually see!

And I can't wait for the home brews! All the rogue decks <3 And well, your extraction murdered tournys even with jace and stoneforge. Now, they're screwed. LOL

Valakut definitely is on the rise, but I think MBC destroys valakut. As does tezzeret forgemaster, and even a fast goblin deck could mess them up. So yeah, overall I'm happy with the bans!

Me too, like you have no idea. A little dissapointed that stoneforge is gone, but hey... it's a brand new meta, where rogue decks (such as this one) stand a chance!

And yessss, hahaha. glad I sold my jace for 80 when I could... and legacy is still not quite in my horizons yet, but it's definitely going to be soon.

I'm glad you like this build, though. The only concerns I have are the mana base issues. I have a good bit of fixers, and if I ramp a turn 3 primeval (t1 birds, t2 cobra, t3 fetch -> primeval) I can just hunt down the lands I need for t4. :3
Who knows, I just love all the threats in this deck. (:

Thanks, man. If you do, tell me how it works out for you!

Why thank you (:

Yeah but then you can't finish off their life with bolts!
Vampires is so fast that you shouldn't have to worry about spellskite, and you have go for the throats for decievers.

the blood crank combo is shit, haha. Because it takes a while to get online. But with the twin, you can lose by turn 4... consistently. And need only 2 cards to do so... Where as bloodcrank requires 2, and then burn.

Also, where you can tap down a land with the exarch, you can eliminate their mana. It's just cheap, hahaha.

no lightning bolt? :S

Yes, it is really that powerful. 2 card that win you the game... In standard? That's HUGE. In extended it'd be different, because you have a lot more to work with, and a lot more answers. But where standard is so limited... you're screwed. :/

hence the counter magic and dismembers, :3

Hate to break it to you, but hive mind has been around for a whileee.
It's such a good combo.

exalted is soooo much better. exalted in boros... ohhhhbuddy. That would have been nuts. :P

No, it's not a copy at all. I saw that deck, after I built this one. I was playing boros long before it placed 2nd at Pro tour paris and before it hit the top 8 in previous weeks.

I like to believe I'm an alright deck builder. So it only makes sense that I would make a deck similar to that of someone who top 8'd.
I'm nowhere near as good a player, but some builds I just understand. Like boros, u/b control, and mono black. (:
I'd say green white but I actually struggled a lot with that build.

You hit the nail right on the head, my friend. Thanks. :D

Why thank you (: