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Well and that was the thing about Rust. It was VERY dominant as well, but it never took the fun out of the game. It beat face like nothing else, but the opponent could still fight back...And it was a blast to play.

Interestingly enough, it would do...Okay. It would still lose, but CAW enjoyed higher land counts than most decks around that time, so it wouldn't appreciate losing lands. Rust would destroy it though, that deck can practically run on zero lands anyway. That said, that deck was so packed with answers and control/stall effects that this deck wouldn't ever win. It would be a nuisance, but that's about it. I didn't have very much to do with CAW...Which I'm actually pretty happy about. I knew it would be way too dominant even before the final version of it came out, so I didn't really have my heart in it when I was helping with it. I helped with the sideboard mostly, couldn't stand the deck. Like I said it was too dominant, took the fun out of the game.

Also, it's quite literally because of people like this that I rarely help design tourney decks anymore.

And quite frankly, by the time you got enough mana, Kuldotha Rust (designed by yours truly shameless plug) would have smacked him for 20 right in the teeth.

It seems like the number of critics continues to rise, yet they remain in the minority...how odd.

That's not how this works. Give me definitive numbers, proof, links, and usernames. Would you like me to start my list?

Also, I know Brian personally. He would destroy you, or anyone, piloting this deck.

Please provide a list of individuals who actually think this deck is good. I can easily provide an extensive list of individuals who believe it is not good.

Until you actually provide definitive evidence of your high praise and accolades, I will continue to assume you are a clown.

I also think you don't understand what the word "heckle" means. You may also want to read up on the proper use of commas, as you use them all too often in your rants, incorrectly as well.

It's very clear to me you haven't the slightest idea how to build a competitive modern legal deck, nor do you have the ability to take constructive criticism to help mold your deck towards something competitive. Going for the "I'll out-shout everyone until I'm right" strategy stops working after 3rd grade, so I suggest listening to some of these people, as they actually know what they are talking about. Otherwise this deck will remain a half-way decent table top deck, at best.

It's not dead, but it is without question dying, and it has been for quite some time. There has always been and probably always will be a big problem with people leeching for deck views and deck comments without ever once giving any sort of feedback in return. However, in the past there was an equal amount of positive, active discussion about decks, cards, mechanics, strategies, etc. It might have come from a small handful of members, but it was so constant and active that it not only balanced the leeches...it outmatched them. I include myself in this core group of members, and I can tell you. We're pretty much all gone, or very inactive. This site used to be FILLED with legacy and vintage players. People who had been playing for years upon years and knew the game in a truly intimate way. Others who forced themselves to learn legacy and vintage because they were the "untamed last frontiers" of magic.

Then, for whatever reason...Legacy and Vintage became a taboo term. Was it NorthernWarlord, or the introduction of Modern, or maybe just a strange coincidence that people wanted budget? Whatever the reason, almost over night Budget was the only thing people wanted to talk about and the "Big bad expensive Legacy/Vintage" decks were a big no-no. So the obvious happened. The Legacy and Vintage players left the site, or became very inactive. And just like that, the discussions and productive back and forth exchange of ideas went with them.

Look at some of my older decks, look at the comments in them, at the exchange of ideas. You can learn more about magic from reading a handful of those old posts than you would in a month on this site as it is now. I love this site, and have been a huge supporter of it for YEARS, so believe me when I say how sad it makes me to say all of this. The vault isn't dead, but it hasn't been alive for a long long time. Nowadays I use it for nothing more than a means to organize my thoughts and decks.

I don't remember if it's ever happened, but some weird stuff can happen if you donate the Top.

Oh and Tamyo's ultimate with Mindslaver. That's a thing.

This deck is so weird wtf...

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I'm very excited about this new set. I've always loved Innistrad, but then when I heard the eldrazi were coming to the plane I was skeptical to say the least. However, the way Wizards worked the story is fantastic. The set has great flavor and the eldrazi presence in Innistrad feels more like an infectious disease or some kind of parasite than the big destroyers of worlds/reality that we saw on Zendikar. In some ways, it makes them even more menacing. I also have to say, this might be the first time in the story that I've been brought to feel sorry for Sorin Markov. And that's something.

See, after the changes, this became exactly why I have that secret love for RUG. If they're done correctly, they almost operate like a living, dynamic organism. It takes a lot of skill to pilot one of these the right way, but it's very rewarding.

This sucker needs Impact Tremors.

I think this is the first time I've seen you run a Stox frame with all 4 Mox Diamonds. I like it though. Interested in why the Demonic Taskmasters are in the SB...

Also WELCOME BACK!!!

I have a secret love for RUG, and a not-so-secret love for Loam. I'm very interested to hear how this works out.

There's also Gnaw to the Bone, which I can tell you from experience can grant you an absurd amount of life in a pinch.

Haha, well normally I wouldn't but I gotta help out my buddy. He's a good father to this little girl so I don't mind being a scribe for him =]

Ok, I'm responding on the behalf of Wumps. He told me what to say but is busy being a dad =P

Bind, among other things, are in his Sideboard. He can post it up in the future, but doesn't like how it's in the same place and your general on this site.

"Would you believe I currently don't have a Thragtusk?! Palakka's badass though." -- Wumps (Vulturous is in SB)

"HOLY SHIT IT'S STILL LEGAL?!" -- Also Wumps

While he agrees that on paper Vigor is better than Pathbreaker, the problem is that Vigor can't be cheated in with Meren. In fact, with the way this deck operates, it would be very rare to see Vigor in play at all.

He agrees completely on Primal Growth and even said it often is a flop for the exact reasons you mentioned. He's going to replace it with Survival of the Fittest since he wants to keep Fauna Shaman in for more reliable searches versus ramp.

He said he is STRONGLY considering Stairwell, possibly as a replacement for Skirsdag, which he agrees is a nice fast low cost dude, but will often die before he makes an early game impact or is making an impact late game when it's already been won.

Wumps disagrees about Sad Hippie (I kinda do too). While it's 2/2 body is fragile, it's ability is devastating to your opponent, and it's a very reliable sac outlet mid-late game. It can even serve as a high risk engine to fill your graveyard. Also as a creature it is easier to get back than Mind Slash.

Phyrexian Alter is good for the reasons Puschkin described. It's used over Ashnod's because this deck needs more colored mana than it does colorless.

If you all would be so kind as to check out my buddy DoTheWumpus's newest deck...It's the EDH deck that inspired me to make my Gitrog EDH. Also Wumps is one of my best friends and it's kinda awesome he's put up a deck again =]

http://www.mtgvault.com/dothewumpus/decks/what-is-dead-may-never-die/