Kazzong

I hope not. because this kind of thing is what is clogging up this site in the first place. why give attention to a deck that mocks that? (no offense to the builder.)

I gotta ask though, why cheat? in all honesty, playing by the rules is way more fun.
Unless of course, as stated somewhere above, you have made up your own varient. either way, this deck really could be improved. in fact, making it legal would make it a stronger deck in general, because you would be able to give it more diversity than it has and you would be able to deal with more situations better. so not only would it win in your circle of friends, but also against more serious players.

In all honesty if this beats your friends decks every time, then most normal decks would thrash them in a normal game. someone stated above that even standard decks wouldn't have a hard time with this, and legacy decks, (the ones that can cost up to several grand to build) would laugh at it. this is true. But if I am correct, you posted this deck for comments nd critisms on how it could be improved, right? so, the comments that have been given, while not exactly nice, are generally true.

This deck has a ton of real game potential if you would legalize it. sure, you would't be garunteed a "win" against your friends anymore, but that tests your skill as a player and forces you to get better and more creative and flexible in your play style. All in all, not a bad thing.

In all honesty, my favourite game that I have played so far (which was almost 2 years ago now, and still has not been topped) was a game that I lost. it started out as a 4 way game, and it got down to me and another guy. he was playing a friend's 5 color deck, very powerful. I was playing what amounts to a newbie spot removal deck. (still have it. love that deck.)

I had blown up the board with planar cleansing, and kept out a twilight shepard, because of persist, and he responded by playing conflux and grabbing 5 cards from his library. I drew a diabolic tutor and grabbed what I thought was going to be the game winning card... I attacked, and he blocked. I played my card to try and tap his creature, thus making it unable to block, and he played holy day and prevented the damage. he then swung in for 5 with his magistar sphinx, and took out my angel, and then ended the game next turn.

That game lasted for over 2 hours. most of it was me and him going back and forth. Did I win? no. Was it a blast because I had been creative in how I held my own? absolutely. That, in my opinion, is what makes the game fun. Sure, it is fun to goof around and cheat sometimes, if the whole group is playing by modified rules, but a regular game is way moer fun I think.

So, like I asked before, what is fun about cheating? if you want to get creative in your deck biulding there are so many better ways to do it than that. There is an almost limitless amount of possiblities for deck building in magic. and if you want to get crazy, look into the unglued or unhinged sets.

You must not have looked at the link in the description. This "deck" was only made in mockery of that one, and it's builder.

The beastmaster ascension would do it. +5/+5 to all your creatures.

I am thinking that the faithless looting could go, and put in 2 devil's play and 2 bonfires.

yes, I know I said I was almost the only one. I know that you were trying to help him out as well. but sadly that makes 2 out of how many posters? :(

can you please verify that, and show me where that is found?

regardless... you should check out my myr deck. :)

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=291764

and this other random deck. :)
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=227645

doubling chant would just be nasty in here getting out tons of elves,, and then strength of the tajuru to make them huge, and ezuri renegade leader for trample.

ok, so I know that it isn't a aura card, or even remotely related to enchantments, but juniper order ranger might be a good card in here. work really well with the gnarlids. :) when you put a creature out, put a +1/+1 counter on it and another on Juniper order ranger. downfall is that it is 3WG to cast. but, that was what popped into my head as I was looking through this deck. :)

well, for starters this site has links to several online stores. look at the vexing devil card, and then scroll down and it will show all the ebay auctions for it. there should also be links to other sites, with estimated prices. as for somewhere else... um.. cardshark.com might have some good deals. also... check around to see if you have a local card/game shop. If so you might be able to trade for them with some other players. card shops usually have tourneys or at least get togethers on friday nights. :) Hope that helps.

am or pm? cause it is 11:34 pm here.

again, not actually helpful. wouldn't you rather help this guy become a better deck builder and post good stuff than dog him for posting new player status stuff?

What was your first deck like? I remember mine, and it was garbage, and I thought it was great. I thought it was an unstoppable force of nature until I met with some cards like... oh, cancel. Or doom blade. Or path to exile. And that was before I had even heard of cards like force of will, or other legacy power cards that royally screw people over, and combos that allow your opponant to win
before their first turn.

what were your deck building skill like? and what about your knowledge of the rules and regulations?

again, I understand that disregarding them and not knowing them is different, but if no one had told you that you couldn't put out more than a single land, and other similar rules, what would your reaction be if you played like that for a lengthy amount of time and then someone told you that you were playing comepletely wrong and should not ever perticipate in something that could help you get better?
I would not come back, and probably keep playing the way that I was, because I had been treated like crap.

again, not defending the status of the deck, nor the cheating. but I am saying that this community has a chance to try and change someone's playing habits for the better, (and improve their deck building skills tremendously), and has decided to shoot themselves in the foot instead by treating him/her like crap when they were expecting a positive reply. It looks to me like I am jsut about the only one who posted something that was actually trying to help instead of just insult. way to uphold the standards of conduct and the whole point and purpose of this site. :)

Unless I am wrong, the point of this site is to help people understand the game better and be better players/deck-builders. putting people down for what they post, the way that people have been doing here, is the exact opposite of that. it doesn't educate about the rules and regulations, and it doesn't help them get any better at following them.

huh... how on earth did I miss that?!?!?! :( I must really be tired... my bad.

oh, I did just think of something though. since you are running les than four of your basic lands, you could swap them for the artifact lands, and then they would untap with your unwinding clock. admittedly that would make them subject to artifact hate. but, like Isaid, just a though. :)

yes, it does help. I was thinking about the blue, and if Ireally needed it here. really the only reason it is here is for the wall of denial, and nothing else really.

flying wouldn't be too much of a problem if I just go with spidersilk armor for reach, and then I could cut out blue entirely. I could replace it with something that fits this deck in naya, not to mention fix the land structure as well.
thanks for the advice surewhynot. :)

whoops, didn't see it there. my bad. :)

well, you have a skirsdag cultist, to sacrifice creature with, perhaps a grim lavamancer to make them even more usefull?
Also, a doubling season. I know that isn't standard, but it would work really well with the gutter grime.

Vexing devils would be good as well, seeing as how they either take damage or you get a cheap creature. after the grime is out, you get a creature anyways. :)
like his deck. :)

love the gnarlids. very powerful in the right deck. :) very nice here. :)

perhaps throw in a elesh norn?