Jessie

Going to rebuild the deck then, take a look, when you get a chance. It will be the red/black discard one.

You have to be a lawyer, i swear, to understand Magic rules! lol

Okay, okay. My friends were wrong.
You are right.
My bad.
So, change your creatures out. They are too slow. Consider Hellfire Mongrel and Ravenous Rats.

Same with Mind Twist. It is so freaking slow. I bought 4 of them for 15 bucks. And they suck. Way too slow. By the time I have 4 or 5 mana, my opponent is out of cards anyways. So something like Funeral Charm. Or Wrench Mind is faster.

And going to remake my deck like this, now that i know it does work.

What about my friend's comment that Liliana's Caress reads:
"Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life."

I just read the rules, and you are right, Kazzong.

But shouldn't the card read:
"Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life for each card discarded."

Okay guys. Question: trying to help another person on this site, with their deck.

Last year I made a deck with Burning Inquiry and Liliana's Caress. It also had other cards like terminate and Hellfire Mongrel.

I have Liliana's Caress on the board, and cast Burning Inquiry.

I say (as does the guy I am trying to help on this site) that Burning Inquiry does 6 damage to my opponent. But my friends, that i played against, said they only lose 2 life.

This is why: "Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life."

My friends said, and i am trying to state to the new guy I am trying to give advice to, on this site, that for Burning Inquiry to do 6 damage to the opponent via Liliana's Caress to do 6 damage, it needs to read:

"Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life FOR EACH CARD DISCARDED."

Another example, I have Liliana's Caress in play. I play Mind Twist to make my opponent discard 4 cards. My friends say they only lose 2 damage via Liliana's Caress. I said they discarded 4 cards, so that is 8 damage.

Please help!!!
Which is right?
Liliana's Caress + Burning Inquiry equals how many damage?

Oh...shit. I made pretty much the same deck, last year. And my friends said it did not work. They said Liliana's Caress does damage when you discard, not for every card.

Like Mind Twist. I pay and make you discard 4 cards. They said Liliana's Caress makes opponent lose 2 life. Not 8. They said to make my opponent lose 8 life I would have to play 4 DIFFERENT discard spells.

That it works by whenever an opponent discards cards, they lose 2 life, not 2 life per card.

They say for Liliana's Caress to work like how you want it to, it needs to read,

"Whenever an opponent discards a card, they lose 2 life for each card discarded."

But instead, Liliana's Caress reads like this, "Whenever an opponent discards a card, they lose 2 life."

There is nothing in the wording that says "2 Life for each card."

I made a deck with Hellfire Mongrel, Terminate, Lilana's Caress, Burning Inqury. They said it did not work.

Maybe they are wrong.

But if they are wrong, and you are right, then My deck would of worked!! And I would ask you to consider Hellfire Mongrel and Terminate.

Chomp, chomp.

I don't think that would work...

Turn 1. Nocturnus.
Turn 2. Liliana's Caress
Turn 3. Duress + Burning Inquiry.

Nocturnus would only be 6/6.

He would get +2/+2 from Duress.
He would get +2/+2 from Burning Inquiry.

I don't think he gets +6/+6 from Burning Inquiry. The card says whenever he is forced to discard a card, Nocturnus gets +2/+2. The card doesn't say, "whenever he is forced to discard a card, Nocturnus gets +2/+2 FOR EACH CARD DISCARDED."

I could be wrong.

Same thing with Liliana's Caress. If you play Burning Inquiry...opponent only loses 2 life.

So...with above combo. Turn 3. Your opponent would take 4 damage from Liliana's Caress (2 damage from duress, 2 damage from Burning Inquiry) and your opponent would take 6 damage from Nocturnus. 10 damage total. Not 40.

Again, I could be wrong.

My deck? No...not to many combos. Using Shorecrasher Mimic and other blue/green cards so that he is pumped up.

No, i agree with you. I have found out that anymore than about 8 rampers is too inconsistent.
But still...when ramping works right, it rocks!!! Having like 8 mana or so on Turn 3 is fun!

He is a damned champ. He came back from surgery smiling/laughing.
When i was his age...i remember tubes in the ear as being traumatic. Bleeding out of my ears. Throwing up. Crying. Feeling sick.
Times and technology has changed.

Thanks SpliNter and NorthernWarlord.

Nope. You mean because of the cards? Or because of them all costing 2 mana?
Regardless, no, it is rather easy to play. You just can't play anything until your second turn.

Try it out, whitedragon313. It's easy to make a deck with all the cards costing 2 mana.

Come on, let him have breaking//entering! It shows as 2 cmc on his mana curve! :)

I love mana ramp. But there is always that chance...of having 8 mana with no cards to use.

Probably a good idea. Will look into it. :)

I sure will. My youngest son just had ear surgery today...so it will be awhile until I can check your decks out.

Oh yeah, standard. I keep forgetting to check to see if a deck is standard/modern.

So, Morphling is a no go. :)

Yes it is, he came up with a really good idea.

You can do it too, Pwap, try to come up with an entire deck with only cards that cost 1 mana to play. :)

Single matches. It is overwhelming, even at single games. I have 12 decks...and want them to each battle each other one time. That is a crap ton of games.

Might end up doing something like have all 12 decks play 5 times. Against random decks. And after all 12 decks have played 5 times each...taking the top 4 decks, and battling them. Not sure.

Wait, crap, they did lose. Not sure why I had that written down as the result. Thopters brutalized Myrs, as a matter of fact!

Damn good memory!

There, fixed.