endgamer31

Life and limb is must! Staff arbor would also be helpful

doubling season! for gods sake doubling season

seems like there could be a better one drop that soldier of the pantheon.... not sure though... maybe http://www.mtgvault.com/card/hopeful-eidolon/THS/

cool! but its part blue so it doesn't quite fir the rules of the competition :C

I KNOW RIGHT!

Here are 2 to start us off
http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/

http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/dragons/

At least lol the thing about Lilliana is you don't need the mana because most of you creatures cost 4 or less

A. you dont need the tutors as your apostles will tutor for you
B dark prophecy is dangerous and could kill you
C you def need 4 immortal servitude!

check out my shadowborn deck http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/

comments welcome!

Out:
innocent blood
1 harvester of souls
mutilate
2-4 swamps
In:
2-4 more apostles
1 shadowborn demon
2 more immortal servitude
xathrid necromancer or
mortician beetle or
deathgreeter or


check out my shadow born deck http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/

comments welcome!

you should have at least one demon (lord of the void would work well with rise of the dark realms)
immortal servitude is a cheaper one sided rise of dark realms if you want to go that way.


check out my shadowborn deck http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/
comments welcome

look slike the deck could use a little focus and a LOT more apostles to work smoothly

check out my shadow born deck http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/
comments are welcome

A um where is your demon.... consider shadowborn demon and demon of death's gate
B with the average cmc you have you could get away with 18-20 land easy
C interesting spin on apostles but not sure if this is the best way to use them.... seems like you could easily replace them with 4 of 5 different 1 drops that are black... and the deck would probably work better since there are some scary 1-2 drops in black ( there are some really good zombies from innistrad)
look through these http://www.mtgvault.com/cards/search/?q=&searchtype=name&c=b&mco=%3d&mc=1&t=Creature&ps=50
check out this deck for some good one drops if above is tl;dr http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/mono-black/

this is what a shadow born based deck should look like lol
http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/
comments would be great

A.abhorrent overlord is not going to be great here because you are sacrificing a good chunk of your creature to get him out and thus he wont yield alot of harpies... which is kinda the point of him dont you think
B there is no way you need 9 demons. remember you will be using your apostles to tutor them out of you deck. 3-4 should be plenty
C what the hell is liliana doing here? lol
D erebos not super great for similar reasons to abhorent overlord. hes going to be switching back and forth between creature and not a creature which is weird lol
E 4 immortal servitude.. .they are kinda awesoem for this deck
F you need more apostles for the love of god lol using the draw hand feature i got up to 6 at turn 8 and then turn 15! 15 fucking turns! lol you need at the very leasst 20 if not 25-30. the more you get faster the faster you will win

G check out my shadowborn deck for some other ideas of fun creatures that fit with shadowborn much better http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/

ok so a few things

A. instead of elixir of immortality, try deathgreeter as it gets activated off your shadowborn sacrificing themselves
B. instead of corpse hauler you might wanna try immortal servitude since it will bring back all your apostles to the battlefield instead of only one to your hand
C. try Shadowborn demon or demon of death's gate as variety and have like 1-2 of each
D you probably dont need quite so much land considering most of your cmc are under 3. 18-20 would be fine
E more Apostles!!!!! you can live with at least 2-4 fewer lands and probably 2 less demons, this gives you at the very least another 4-6 apostles. remember you are trying to hit at least 6 as fast as freaking possible.

F check out my shadowborn deck http://www.mtgvault.com/endgamer31/decks/shadowborn/

Wait just had an idea (that might be very cool) what about http://www.mtgvault.com/card/archwing-dragon/AVR/

i normally think of him as quite a sucky dragon.... but comboed with valkas.... its a guaranteed trigger of valkas's ability every turn... could be quite powerful....

ive proxied and it is.... stupid good. my fiance has already said she basically wont ever play against it:D High praise! lol

the only funky thing is that i have so many dragon speaker shamans i almost always get at least one, which you would think would be a good thing.... the issue is alot of the deck hinges on the cards you are casting or that are in your hand being dragons.... (kilnmouth, utvara, scourge of valkas, crucible of fire)
so im wondering whether i want to drop him down to only 3 or 2 copies and maybe replace with either
A another low cost dragon like dragon whelp
B some higher costing dragons like shivan dragon [i like this option as he is the original dragon after all]
C dragon master outcast [don't love this idea but it COULD be good in late game, especially to activate valkas]
D ring of valkas for hastyness and +1/+1 counters

dragon egg would help loads in early game

A. It's an expensive card to buy.
B. I'd much rather have that spot filled by either a colored mana that will allow me to put something out, or a sliver that can actually help all of the other slivers. For a one time cost of only 2 mana (basically the same as transforming mutavault when you consider you can't use it for mana that turn) I can get a permanent sliver that's a 2/2 that gives vigilance or a 2/2 that pumps all of my other slivers. And that is only the 2/2 options

While it might be a neat trick, it is in no way "essential"

door of destinies is OK but my goal is to get as many slivers out asap so they are all ppumping each other. . whay would ii need mutavault.? also its a rather pricey card

Lo no shit. I'm keeping this to a somewhat fair/ cheap deck to build and while i love the shit out of lightning bolts i dont really need them for this deck. they are there as removal spells later in the game not as direct damage in the begginning .... does that make sense. alos all my additional spells are 1C which is nice....