vanguard487

lots of info here, i will look this over, thanks!
Oh, you have no idea how helpful Amulet of Vigor is in actual play. Just looking at the deck you wouldn't think that, but it is actually very helpful, and provides a turn 3 win condition for this deck. And yes, I have pulled off a turn 3 win with this deck
Oh, and the amount of lands, it doesn't matter, because of primal command. The whole reason for those is to provide a way for me to shuffle my graveyard into my library.

Oh, okay, i didn't see him. Thanks again!

dang, oh well, but if you were able to change a card type...

hang on, does Vorel of the Hull Clade double the number of counters on Helix pinnacle?

Thanks, this just gave me an idea

ya, you could do that!

oh, dang, i have never seen a combo like that, that will be something that I will add to this plus it serves a dual purpose

wait, would Devoted druid and Melira, Sylvok Outcast generate an infinite mana loop?

I know about all of them, but the idea was to try to do this with out using any creatures, but I see where each of those would fit in nicely

thanks for clearing that up

Oh, thanks, I forgot about the metalcraft on them!

I literally just made this deck about 2 hours ago, so I haven't had much time to review it, thanks!
Oh for fog, I was wondering, combat damage includes damage to the player, that is correct? I am just making sure.
And is it just damage by creatures, or damage by spells?

oh, right, I didn't realize it was standard until I posted the comment. I love your Hyper budget deck by the way! Good work!

LIGHTNING BOLT INSTEAD OF LIGHTNING STRIKE!!!!!

If you are going to have this be banned in every format, just add more artifact lands and then add in a tezeret, his X ability is search you library for an artifact card with converted mana cost X, and put it into play. Every turn you would be able to search your library for a land and play it. That is why they are banned from modern.
Or, to heck with it, just add proginitus, protection from everything, 10/10 Hydra
(don't think i spelled that right)

Not really, I have looked at many cards, and unless something pops out, I won't really put it in at this point. Mostly because I have to take something out. Thanks though!

I haven't been able to take out 4 cards yet, and I am working on it. I played a game earlier and got up to almost 50 health turn 5 or 6. I won turn 7 or 8. The deck works great, and even though at times it may seem slow, the life gain more than makes up for that. If you have any ideas to take cards out, please let me know, so I can get another opinion.

You will get there. I am surprised I am there myself. I never thought myself a very good deck builder until 3 of my decks just exploded.

Hey everyone!!!! I just tested this deck!!! HOLY CRAP, this thing is good. I had 8 4/4 beasts turn 5, along with 30 health, and 17 mana to spend!! Geez...

@Demonking: Have you seen one of these ramp enginges before? I sure haven't, until about 4 days ago when I was playing with a friend. This guy was somehow able to generate Infinite mana turn 3, 99% of the time. It was not fragile at all. I have come kind of close to what he did, not perfect, but close enough. I can have anything out in this deck turn 4, and if it is the right card, win turn 5. The tricky part about playing the deck, is constructing the mana engine in game. It is not very fragile, but needs to be done carefully, with planning.
I really appreciate your help, and I have taken some of what you have said into account, but just fwi, despite what you might think, this deck has few holes in it until turn 4, I am a ramp person, you can see my landslide deck on the main page and check it out if you want. That defines true ramp, with a maximum of 16 turn 2 or 3, and over 20 turn 4. However for this deck I decided to try a different engine, anyway, I am going to stop rambalin' and just tell me what you think. I relly appreciat the help. Oh I did view your deck, and I see what you did. I see what you mean by earthquake, so that may be a potential card, but with Balefire dragon.... it is hard to decide.