I think it might have something to do with being able to play a CMC 7 dragon on turn four?
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No way man, I have the same problem! I'm making a scepter deck but mine also has red in it too! I could do with some help if you don't mind? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=416158 also what about echoing truth? its just wrong on the scepter against tokens!
I think gather the towns folk is a solid card, two mana for two bodies, I'd probs swap out the the rootborn D for it, side board the rootborn for controly board wiper decks maybe?
I think a good way to combat the board wipes is with blood artist, make it so the board wipe is just not worth doing :) I run tragic slip in the main board too, chump block with a token then -13-13 something! and the vault land is bad, bad ass! I'd run at least three just for the fact that all your one/one's have the potential of killing anything the op puts down :) here's a link to my 100% standard B/W token :) I hope it helps and feel free to comment man, always looking to improve! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=400793
Nah thats sound man, each to their own I think the token and the removal is just mad but you have good points and if you like how the deck plays, why change it! :) happy playing man!
Hey man, sorry bout that, like many noobs on here I just looked at the deck and not the description! in that case, looks good man, my bad! haha maybe the charm? its really good!
In response shock? and how do you win if you're only dealing 19? best hope you play a memnite first turn haha, cool idea though!
parallel lives would be a good one in here mate :)
Between the Denomic brilliance and this I would pick this! It looks like one of them eck where I would want to slap you everytime I played it! (which is good, not so much for me!) Like the amount of hate in the deck, not a lot I can offer to improve tbh man!
wicked, thanks for the advice! I've taken it on the traveler, forgot all about him tbh! haha but I do like the land, it seems to really work, plus sign in blood is double black making it a pain to cast really, but thanks again on the side board too, thats all sound! tar man, I'll give your decks a look and see what I can do :D
yeah I see your logic, tar man, swapped out rewindx2 and a syncopate for three dissipates :) tar man!
tar man but the whole idea for the deck isn't tokens, its a token/sac deck but if the opponent has a way round the sacing the side board can make it a full token deck :)
syncopate is a really good counter! and I'd use the electromancer too :) he is sick, turns them spears in to lightening bolts! haha and maybe even delver? just to get them early beats in? I made an izzet deck that came second in my last FNM I don't know if you'll find it any use but here's the link man http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=390947
yeah thanks, I did think of the sage but its three mana for a 0/1 if it had a bigger back end then I would probs put it in but it gets pinged way too easy and 9 times out of 1o I have a forest to play arbor elf plus he untaps temple garden :D
Thanks for the advice! I get the curve is a lil' off and needs adjusting a bit, not too keen on swapping Oring for the hunter though, really not the same.. I agree with the restos and thragtusk though, maybe that is a lil' over kill but I disslike the midnight haunting, I get that its G/W but its not a token deck, that just happens to be the result of a lot of these good cards haha I have a side board for it just didn't put it up with the deck, lazyness will be the end of me haha. thanks again! And thanks for letting me know where your decks are man! wouldn't have noticed ;)
yes, very nice! thankyou :)
thanks for the ideas guys, I personaly think countr flux is ace, I get that I will never need to overload it but against other counter decks its saved my ass a couple o' times :) and I've come to realise I don't need a bomb, because for the turn I play the bomb I'm not doing anything in there turn, putting me on the back foot. thanks again for your input, I have changed a few cards round :)
ahh good point, so you think something to sac my own creatures off if I can't do theirs?
don't need heros' reunion, you have 4 thragtusk + 4 cloudshift?
Agree with second post, maybe Oring?
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