what's liliana, untouched by death for? there's no zombie synergy in the deck, which is clearly what she is made for
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Shrieking Affliction for 4 more racks?
Warping wail for some sort of colorless-charm? could be useful with the "counter target sorcery" option.
Yeah you're totally right. I can't seem to find any creatures with cmc 0 that aren't artifacts, so I guess ornithopter is gonna be put away for paradoxical outcome and some more filtering.The reason why the mountain count is bigger than the island count is because I updated the deck and forgot to fixthe mana base.
Personally I think Tamiyo, Field Researcher is really good since if you have a Doubling Season in play you can activate her ultimate right away to get a permanent Omniscience and draw 3 cards.Jace, Unraveler of Secrets's ult is really good too.
Okay that's fine. The deck should maintain it's original identity.Now that I think about it, Hive Mind doesn't work with Chimera since the opponents need to cast the spells, and they're only just copying spells others cast. It would still be fun to put in though, as a one-of or something like that.
Some suggestions: Primal Vigor, Ashiok, both Tamiyos, Jace Unraveler of Secrets?
Spells don't change zones when control is exchanged. So you can't exile Doom Blade if control is exchanged with Helvault.
If you have a creature with an equipment equipped and it goes under the control of another player then the equipment will stay attached but you can still equip it to your other creatures on your turn.301.5d An Equipment’s controller is separate from the equipped creature’s controller; the two need not be the same. Changing control of the creature doesn’t change control of the Equipment, and vice versa. Only the Equipment’s controller can activate its abilities. However, if the Equipment grants an ability to the equipped creature (with “gains” or “has”), the equipped creature’s controller is the only one who can activate that ability.If you want to play Iron Maiden I guess you should throw in a couple of effects like Timetwister or Prosperity to get maximum value, and for the filtering/draw. Also if you're going to play Iron Maiden you might as well play other cards that punish big hands. You could go into red, which punishes really well for this. If you want to stay in U/G then you can play Sword of War and Peace which also gives you value.EDIT: Hive Mind for extra jankiness? I know it doesn't make people cast spells, but it would be fun.
Unfortunately, there's not many ways to force opponents to cast spells, and there aren't many good ways.Spellshift lets you counter an instant or sorcery and makes that spell's owner cast an instant or sorcery from their library by revealing cards until they find one.Omen Machine forces players to cast spells as well.As for protecting the Chimera, maybe play Shielding Plax to give it shroud?
Oh that's true Trophy Mage is great. I forgot about that card. I'll add a couple in.
Doesn't work, as Cloudstone Curio is 3 mana, and Muddle the Mixture can only transmute for cards with a mana cost of 2.
No problem- It's the same for me too :(
No problem. Summoning Trap is a good card. I think if you don't have See the Unwritten, then you could play it as a replacement. Even though it might not have the ferocious 2nd creature bonus (which might be hard to get anyways), it's also an instant, which is good if you can flash in a fatty end of turn.
Hi!I think you could use less Elixirs and Whelming Waves. Waves don't come in handy too often, and usually 1 or 2 is fine- plus you have the Scourge of fleets (source: i've played it). Elixir of Immortality isn't a card you should be spending a lot of deck slots on, and you really only need one to "go infinite".I can see why you want to use Aetherplasm, but it's actually really not that good. Maybe you could replace it with maybe 3 or 4 See the Unwritten? even though it's 6-mana you can get up to 2 fatties onto the battlefield if you have ferocious active. If you don't, well you get a fatty for 6 mana.I would also play more islands and less forests. Take out Winds of Qal sisma (if you want keep maybe 1 or 2) because you really don't need a 2-mana fog, since you already have the og in the deck. You honestly don't need that many fogs in the deck.Echoing truth is an okay card and I would play only 2-3 copies of it. I get the double usage property but tbh it's not something I would want to 4-of.If you can get it, Quest for Ula's Temple is a great tribal card for Leviathans, Krakens, and Octopuses. It also provides a way to cheat out your guys if you just wait 3 turns. This might be better than See the Unwritten, but having both could be good. This means you have to play more creatures to be consistent, however. Inkwell Leviathan is a great card since it's basically untouchable. Simic Skyswallower is good too, since it also has flying.So maybe:-2 Elixirs-2-3 whelming waves-4 Aetherplasm-2 Winds of qal sisma-2 echoing truthFill those slots up with what you want, I would personally use some of the cards I suggested.Kiora (crashing wave) is great if they can't remove her soon enough, Inkwell Leviathan is good too, Shipbreaker Kraken seems good too.I like the deck idea, and tried making one but never got around to finishing it. Good luck on games if you ever play with it!
Have you considered Narcomoeba? I don't know too much about dredge but I know that a lot of dredge decks play this to get it out of the grave when milling.Also why the 2x Tibalt? Seems like a really interesting choice since no one (even dredge) really plays tibalt.
Hey thanks for the shoutout. I really appreciate it.But that being said, you have a lot of unnecessary cards in here.Wild Ricochet is something you really don't need, and you have too many 2-ofs.Personally if I were you, I would abandon red and black and go for bant colors.Some tribal anthems would be nice, like Full Moon's Rise, since it can regenerate your guys in case of a wrath, and pumps them up. Devouring Light or Oblivion Ring would be better than Neck Snap.Not trying to be super critical here, but the deck kind of is too... crazy if you know what I mean. It's really diverse, and midrange decks should usually be pretty focused. I really like the idea of the deck tho.
No problem!The thing is Clone Legion is very, very dependent on the board state. That, and the fact that it's 9 cmc doesn't seem like it would seem good in the deck. It's more of a kitchen table card.I also considered shapesharer but I feel like it kinda unfocuses the deck, if you know what I mean. I don't have anything I would take out for it.Hey keep up the good work! Commenting on other peoples' deck really helps out the community, so thanks Bobjoe!
Thanks for the suggestions.Evolution Charm isn't really a tutor, and I honestly don't have a spot to fit it in in the deck.I'm trying to keep this u/g, but Congregation at Dawn is definitely a good tutor effect for Bant Biovisionary decks.I think Drift of Phantasms may be really good here, since it can also stall against aggro. I think I'll replace it with Chord of Calling.
Also why not boomerang instead of eye of nowhere?
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