Nickyeahman

Quest for nihil stone?

Yeah, just reckoned you'd want them to ditch cards faster in case you have nyxathid in hand, that all.

I prefer ravenous rats to black cat. Yeah the discarded card isn't random, but at least you get to choose when it happens. Just a thought...

I can't believe nobody's mentioned wall of reverence...

Nice! Also, you might want to swap the quest for the nihil stones for an old artifact card called the rack. It's arguably better, but depends if you play multiplayer or one on one I don't know. There's also a creature that does basically the same thin called tackling, but I don't think it's quite as good. Talking of creatures, I like to have more and do my discarding that way through their abilities instead of using spells, but that's my choice though, I don't know if you agree. I think the creatures that you do have are definitely the right ones though.

Worldly tutor?

In answer to otterbox's comment, I'm surprised that people still aren't getting vampiric link, spirit link, even armadillo cloak. THIS CARD DOES NOT GIVE THE CREATURE "LIFELINK"! It just says when enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life. I.e. you play it on their creatures not yours negating the damage it does to you. I have two white decks both with spirit links in and I almost never use it on one of my own creatures. Even in my green and white deck I sometimes put armadillo cloak on an opponent's creature. DO NOT PRESUME THIS CARD IS THE SAME AS THE CARD LIFELINK. if anything, this card may be the only thing that allows DeZombiemon to even reach turn five...

Hello, sorry for the delayed response. If you want to go down that route, (which I agree is a nice idea) then i suggest you get two more sign in bloods, bloodgift demon ( the more the better) and a set of underworld dreams as well (again, four is best). This will allow you to force your opponent to draw cards AND lose life. If you have underworld dreams in play they lose life twice! Also, your gnat misers will probably mean they can't keep the cards anyway, but just to make sure you can keep your guul draz spectre as a 5/5, I suggest you change some of your creatures for ones that force discarding. I was thinking ravenous rats and liliana's spectre. If you want any more help, just ask me buddy...

Avatar of woe?

Epic deck! I don't think you've got the idea with wheel of fate though. Read it more carefully, it's useless to you without red mana.

I'm sure stampede would just switch to the next biggest creature instead but i dunno, like I said, sell em to pay for the garruk. Nature's lore is better than rampant growth in a mono green. Garruk's companion is ok but doesn't really have a theme. I think you just need a theme, maybe just to get shit loads of forests out?

Ezuri, not rofellos. And it's only for elves, sucky. I was thinking it was more like good old kamahl, fist of kroso. Stick to garruk and ditch the stampedes. Don't want the deck too top heavy.

I would say it was better, BUT, it is more expensive to buy PLUS if you do get one it pushes your mana curve up. If you do get one ( and you only really need one), maybe you should forget about overwhelming stampedes cause you got overrun on tap right there with the big man. I think there's a card called rofellos which does the same thing as well. Just don't fall into the trap with green where all your best shit costs 5+ mana and you gotta waste all your early game mana ramping, by which time your on the back foot in terms of life. Don't be afraid to chuck a few weenies in there, why do you think you get screwed over by elves bro.

Well I personally really like the original garruk, you should defo try to get it back or buy another one. Or you could try that new one but I don't know if I'm down with that whole innistrad flippy thing, what do you think?

Oh, my bad, you already have overwhelming stampede. Get more ;)

Hmm, I would change the mana ramping spells for creatures that do the same thing (there's loads) maybe get some bigger undying creatures like vorapede, and a way to push for the win like overwhelming stampede or at least overrun. You're not really running an infect deck so I reckon these are better than triumph of the hordes. Do you need anti artifact? Try glissa, and other cards from that set. Finally, garruk!

Oh, and although I really like that simian spectre card you just got, be mindful the exiling cards does not count as discarding, so won't work with liliana's caress. Just a tip ;)

Fair enough, it looks a lot better now. Nice job on the spectres, I'm still not sure about the mana ramp but if it really works for you then fair play. I only say this cause if you look at your mana curve it isn't that expensive really, but it's your call. I personally, would just add more discard cause it all converts to damage if you've got your new liliana's caress out, but hey. See where you're coming from with the duress though, I didn't realise how old ostracise had gotten anyways! I suppose counter spells can be annoying, but if you go first you can just make em ditch their whole hand by turn three to five anyway, and then they're dead drawing. Have you considered the blood gift demon/underworld dreams combo as well?

Hi. Firstly, six ravenous rats? Is that a mistake? If not, just drop two of em. Secondly, what's with all the mana ramp? Is that for myojin? Just seems a bit excessive is all. If I were you, I'd lose all that mana ramp and get more spectres (abyssal, guul-draaz, hypnotic), liliana's caress (or megrim) and maybe swap out duress for ostracise (I find it mor useful). Hymn to tourach, horrifying revelation and the rack work well too.

Oh nice, I didn't realise they'd reprinted relentless rats again, it's such a classic. Yeah, diabollic tutor's a good card to have until you've bought all the other cards you need (usually for around four mana). At least you'll be able to search for your key cards like your demon or liliana's caress. Sign in blood's ok too, it just costs life if you use it on yourself. If you do end up getting underworld dreams ever, then keep it though, cause you can punish your opponents for drawing twice! And then, just make them discard the cards anyway, so you haven't even given away a small advantage. Dunno, either go down the underworld dreams, blood gift demon, sign in blood route OR for a more classic discard with like the rack and nyxathid.