Ktrojan

wow i hadn't thought of that. Yeah stuped 3/5 sphinx that can get haste hosed me a few times. I'd gain life but not get in with damage. I like Xenagos though as it'd kick ferocious just off a courser even, allowing me to bring back the pheonix and allowing me to likely swing with Xenaos himself yes!

I do like it but was just never sure if 4cmc was too high. I really don't need a land back usually but the creature might be good to get back.

what are your thoughts on thassa over erebos? I had thassa in my build originally as a one of and loved the fact that i always got through with my chromanticore so i was jw.

I guess lifegain is big in standard right now though too and it has a better chance of being a creature huh.

I like it! I just wasn't going as much control and wanted to manipulate my library a little more. Thoughtsieze I don't own so I ussually just completely forget it honestly.

very true!

I personally have not had an issue with lands/mana at all. The reason i took the wayfinders out is because 3 games i was just not impressed because i didn't need the lands with coursers, crayatids, and stacking my deck how i want it with the scheming. yet Sometimes i did want the siege or removal/counter that it got rid of. Again early in my testing so who knows it may find its way back in. If anything i'll prob up the mana confluence to 4 and add a urborg for a swamp or something.

Scheming i haven't felt at all like i didn't like how it played "yet"

Pheonix will prob drop to 2 and Mauler prob back to 3 but i've really liked morphing mauler

I originally didn't want all my eggs in the same basket with the two creatures so that's why I put them at threes after the games i did play they've worked so well that yes they will be 4 ofs.

I do really thank you guys for the advice! I'm not big in standard right now so it really helps!

I will on lunch today thanks!

Not really (I admit I have little testing with this) but with mauler added and being able to cast Chromanticore I don't NEED soulflayer. If they use removal on Chromanticore that's fine then he's still right where I can use him (assuming it's not exile) I could see putting him in as a 4 of before soulflayer honestly. But no I don't play events but would like to.

What would you suggest for a stronger shell?

I'd guess I'd side more counters for things like wrath effects, but as far as the shell and what's been mentioned what are you thinking?

Well funny you say that because that's why I only run 3 is to have enough without just relying on soulflayer. The two games I played (not against standard decks) wayfinder was actually not needed at all and he makes me nervous as I can't get soulflayer back if he hits it. From what I saw hard casting Chromanticore and waiting till they deal with it to soulflayer it seems like the best value. Honestly two games last night I could hard cast tune 4 and 5. The shaman taking tasigars spot has no testing but I like the card draw , the counters for my trampler/lifelinker, and the haste to delve him if he ends up in the yard.

I will def keep testing though as that's the only way you'll know what's needed.

I like it does valakut even work if they all enter at the same time?

Even hard casting Chromanticore turn 4 I was doable and that was nice to see!

Going to try shaman of the great hunt over tasigar, 2 merderous cuts cutting one reality shift and Thassa for now.

Sideboard is just test cards currently.

So far that hasn't been the issue Mauler is in now as a 3 of

Looking for standard players help here please.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ktrojan/decks/soulmanticore/

so ok i'll test with 3 seige and 1 tasigar and cut one land to get the three in for now and see how it goes. I also do see why the land is better than the creature turn 2 with Satyr Wayfinder after just a few more dry runs.

Thanks yeah I'll look into where to go with getting mauler in!

The reason I want to test both is to be able to dig deeper at upkeep with ascendancy. You and rolledaone may be right siege may get the spot but I'd like to test with both before i decide for sure.

I like Tasigur because he can hit the board early and kick ferocious fast.

My thoughts on murderous cut were that I'm already delving a bit.

Satyr Wayfinder can block but do I really care with the crayatis and coursers when i plan on gaining life as well? I just felt commune and scheming add more to delve and make sure I don't pitch my Soulflayer.

I admit I don't play much standard but I'll test this a bit and decide and I'm happy for the feedback!

I liked Rattleclaw but couldn't find a way to fit it in.

Yeah I'll look into it want to test both though.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ktrojan/decks/call-from-the-grave-ii/

Testing with soulflayer/Chromanticore

You sac it and replay. Yeah it works around it easily!

To fix this and make it playable I'd suggest dropping all your legendary creatures to 2 ofs if not 1 ofs and also add green to run captain sisay (this would be a 3 or 4 of) as well as be able to have more lands on the feild at once (Gaea's cradle seems good obv. even more so once you fetch Tabernacle lol my fav edh play). Then you could run things like bow of nylea giving you more versitility, you could drop your artifacts to 1 ofs making room for healm, sheild, and sword of kaladra. You could even splash black to run karador/glissa to keep even more gas later game (would only take a couple urborgs).