Yes, you are correct. Assuming he goes first, and turn1 Thoughtseize (assuming I have the only Emrakul in my hand) and then Surgical Extraction, would wreck me, but that is very situation. Probably a very low chance. Still, being modern, I would imagine they would first play a fetch land and fetch for a shock land. Then Thoughtseize and Surgical Extraction. Before I even take my first time, they would be at 13 life. I suppose in that situation, I would have to burn them with my Bolts and Electrolyzes. In any case, thank goodness I have counterspells.You made a very good point when you talked about game 2. They wouldn't expect Scapeshift...SURPRISEEEEEE!!!! =P
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Thanks for the explanation jj5. I was a little worried I was playing the deck incorrectly. I DID check with one of my friends last night since he is an L1 judge, but even he couldn't figure out the following situation:I cast/morph Zoetic Cavern, triggering Possibility Storm. Opponent casts a Lightning bolt, triggering Possibility Storm, and he reveals a Mana Leak (which I cannot pay for). The stack would be:Cavern -> trigger -> Bolt -> trigger -> Mana LeakResolution: Cavern gets countered. There is still Cavern's trigger, but because there is no legal target, we weren't sure if the trigger would resolve.However, what I found online was: If Possibility Storm's ability doesn't exile the original spell (perhaps because another Possibility Storm already exiled it or it was countered), you'll still exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a card that shares a card type with it and have the opportunity to cast that spell.This suggests that it would still work, but I will ask an L2 or L3 judge the next time I'm at Channel Fireball (within the next few days).
BAM! You are right. Another good point! Even if they somehow manage to counter Zoetic Cavern, the casting trigger goes on the stack, meaning even if it's countered, Possibility Storm's trigger will still resolve. Kind of like Kor Spiritdancer - Whenever you cast an Aura spell, you may draw a card. So if I attach Ethereal Armor to it, but my opponent Lightning Bolts it in response (or counterspells my Ethereal Armor), no matter what, I still get to draw a card because I still cast Ethereal Armor.
Yes! A friend suggested I test out Polymorph. I proxy-ed a deck up, but it consistently failed unfortunately. Many reasons. Against burn, it was too slow. Polymorph says "put that creature (Emrakul) onto the battlefield". But because it wasn't cast, I didn't get to take an extra turn, usually allowing the burn player an extra turn to kill me. Against control decks, they would usually counter my Polymorph, or counter my counter to THEIR counter =\ not to mention that they had plenty of Lightning Bolts and Electrolyzes to kill my tokens so I never had a chance to use Polymorph on my creatures.To answer your question about Possibility Storm disrupting my counterspells, well, I don't really cast Possibility Storm until I have my combo ready (either Zoetic Cavern of Tolaria West to tutor for the Zoetic Cavern). I don't really use it to disrupt their spells.Thanks for taking a look man! =)
You are correct, you can still counter a creature, but Possibility Storm will trigger, meaning their counterspell will not resolve, and force them to start revealing until they can hit an instant. Of course, they might end up revealing another counterspell (which happened to me before), but I respond by casting a Lightning Bolt (which gets exiled due to Possibility Storm), and, like my opponent, hope that I end up revealing a counterspell for THEIR counterspell.
That's a very good point. I was banking on Izzet Charms to discard Emrakul if I have it in hand. I'd probably go with Anticipate, since it can dig a little deeper than See Beyond. Thanks! =)
Hey Gothy! Hope you're still roaming around the vault. If so, I could really use your help on this new deck, as you're one of the few modern, non-budget deck builders around the vault =)http://www.mtgvault.com/tleung84633/decks/2-decks-in-1-storms-a-comin/
Thanks for stopping by sorin! =)Actually, what jordan2 said already was correct. The win-con of this isn't mill, but to use Possibility Storm to cast Emrakul without paying the crazy 15 mana. You only need to pay 3 mana (morphing a Zoetic Cavern - it'll get exiled and shuffled back in due to Possibility Storm's trigger) and you reveal until you hit a creature, and since the only creature is Emrakul, you're guaranteed to cast him, uncounterable, for free. It may not be able to kill in a single turn, but the Annihilator 6 slows your opponent WAY down, forcing them to sacrifice creatures, lands, planeswalkers, anything.
I hear what you're saying. But like I always tell my friends, there's no perfect deck. If there was, everyone would play it. A deck will ALWAYS have some weaknesses. Just gotta try to minimize as many of them as possible ;-)
Hey sorin. Been a while since I commented on this deck. Hope you're doing well with it hehehe.Since you're one of the few people who make modern decks that are non-budget, I was hoping you had time to take a look at a new modern, non-budget deck I had. Thanks a lot man!http://www.mtgvault.com/tleung84633/decks/2-decks-in-1-storms-a-comin/
That's cool. I was just curious since I know you wanna drop your training grounds and grand architect asap so I figured you'd need to have access to your colors. At least a playset of shock lands maybe? Either way, it's cool
Nice combo deck. Does it have to be budget? Because I'd definitely suggest modifying your mana base with fetch and shock lands for you to get access to your colors.
Hehehe. Thanks! You helped a lot with your explanations. But I only put it on the Unloved page cause I want tips and stuff too. I'm still debating about the Cascade Bluffs...Anyway, like I was saying, who cares about the HP. But I'm glad it's full of various stuff. EDH, Standard, Budget, etc. =)
Oops! Looks like Umoonpuca beat me to the punch haha. But yes, what Umoonpuca said was correct. Explores can be taken out since Sakura-Tribe Elder provides mana ramp and also a chump blocker to help you live longer. Thanks for answering jordan2's question already! Filter lands huh? Yeah, maybe a Cascade Bluffs would help since I have high devotion to blue and red. Thanks!
Dispels are great since they are only 1 blue, especially since they'll be using counterspells as instants, but because it's a combo-control deck, I can't remove any cantrips. I think for now I'll have to just rely on my "higher-mana" counterspells instead of dispels. But I will definitely keep dispels in mind if I need to make changes. Thanks for the advice!
Hey everyone. I was wondering what you thought about this new deck. Any suggestions, tips, or advice is, as always, greatly appreciated. Thanks! =)
Yeah you owe me an apology! =PBottom line is that I can use them in the deck. Hooray! =)
Whoops! I should have done more research. Yes, O-ring was printed as a common lots of times. But I SHOULD mention at this time that Pauper is not technically a paper format at all. It's only an online format...which means it only follows the online official rules. Example? Hymn to Tourach was printed as a common on paper, but never as a common online...which means it cannot be used in the pauper format. Of course, magic stores and comic book stores probably have their own "house rules" for paper pauper, but technically speaking, pauper is only an online format. There are no wizards-official paper pauper rules. But thanks for the catch Umoonpuca!
LOL! Yes, that's why I was surprised when people said $36 wasn't budget. Maybe their terms of budget are 36 cents. Umoonpuca definitely hit the nail on the head there =)
Any room for darksteel citadel? You can still sac it if you need it in your graveyard.
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