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Here's my take on it. W/R tokens as an alternative win condition. While you've got massive tokens, you force your opponent to choose if they want to pay 4, take 4, and doj.

So the hardest part if you have to force your player to tap land for mana not an easy task but this is what i thought about it

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This forces your opponent to tap extra mana or lose their spell their casting eventually they are either left with the option to kill themselves or do nothing because casting a spell will kill them.

[QUOTE=Ashton313]So the hardest part if you have to force your player to tap land for mana not an easy task but this is what i thought about it

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This forces your opponent to tap extra mana or lose their spell their casting eventually they are either left with the option to kill themselves or do nothing because casting a spell will kill them.[/QUOTE]

He said STANDARD. Both Wall of Frost and Guard Gomazoa are not standard. Along also with Spell Pierce and Condescend.

Manabarbs + Personal Sanctuary + Lockdown (i.e. Gideon's Lawkeeper, Blinding Souleater)

Good Game:cool:

Okay heres the best I could come up with for a FAST mana barbs win condition. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=317387

-- Golems + Day of judgment to hold down the board.
-- Oblivion Ring to secure any threats
-- x3 card draws for speed
-- Mana Leak felt needed
-- Red Sun's Zenith to finish and deal with a threat
-- And of course the default barbs// sanctuary combo

If only Pygmy hippo was in standard. As a side note, I was using Mindslaver as a finisher, but i feel the zenith is just as good and can deal with creatures. Tho Mindslaver is some serious style points, that you should give to me anyways XD

[QUOTE=KromeDrone]http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=316771

Here's my take on it. W/R tokens as an alternative win condition. While you've got massive tokens, you force your opponent to choose if they want to pay 4, take 4, and doj.[/QUOTE]

I love your deck, but you will never win with mana barbs. Everything else is too good. Shit might as well take out the sanctuary's and just have mana barbs rub salt into there wounds with the speed your packing.

didn't catch the word standard i'll go back and fix somethings

Mana from creatures and artifacts + proliferate. Then, drop shrine bomb.

They probably can't keep up as we ramp and add counters. Throw down chump blockers and gain life with timely reinforcements.

Too easy...

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Mana dorks and fatties, Manabarbs prevents answers.

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[QUOTE=WrathofShane]I love your deck, but you will never win with mana barbs. Everything else is too good. Shit might as well take out the sanctuary's and just have mana barbs rub salt into there wounds with the speed your packing.[/QUOTE]

Except I'm TRYING to focus around the Manabarbs and token compliment the deck considering they're easy to cast if you can't get a Sanctuary out.

I made a competitive standard deck, that's good. You HAVE to focus around another idea to make it in PTQ's because just trying to focus around Manabarbs isn't good enough. You're gonna lose to U/W Spirits, R/G Fells, various other Token decks, and other decks that make it in the top 10 spots.

First Play Manabarbs.
Cast oblivion ring on it so its removed.
Finally cast Worldfire. This will bring manabarbs back, set everyones life to one. Now wait for people to tap then die
GG