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bk/wh control current block constructed needs some help

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=195545

I need a little bit of advise, yes I know i's at 80 cards, that is as it is right now. I will probably pull out 4 plans and 5 swamps to reduce the mana, as I have such a big ramp. I am thinking of throwing in a few mycosynth wellsprings, but black and white tend to lack artifact destroys in the current block. I would have to be sparing in my casting as a lot of the combos tend to be based around artifacts.

Basically, it slows down too much late game (even though slow is the pace I want with it). Drawing land on turn 12 sucks. However, I think I have the potential for a good deck here, anyone have any suggestions on what to cut/add as far as the spells go?

(btw: got my first double carnifex out yesterday... Wow, those things feed off of eachother ridiculously... My poor Elesh was useless as I had so much mana with a caged sun on swamp that I could drop 12 -1/-1 tokens on everything and Carnifex would live via swapping tokens between them! :D
Posted 10 June 2011 at 20:48

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def. -2 spread the sickness. extremely overpriced for what it is. i would cut the deck down to 60 for sure. i would suggest a playset of Suffer the Past. a playset of Geth's Verdict same with Despise and Memoricide

what are you trying to accomplish with this? i probably should ask that first:p I know you want control, but what are you wanting as your wincons?
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 21:30

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Thank you for the advise, that was the first folly I just noticed and already did a bit of minor tweaking...

Basically, I'd like to stall the game that I can either drop a white sun... (unfortunately I only own 2...) Or until I can get my double Carnifex out...

As far as wincon... unfortunately the most reliable one does seem to be a cat bomb.... the more dastardly slow and painful poking.

That being said, the Carnifex does go against the Myrs....

I guess (pardon the rant) but the win condition could be playing a victory's herald and Myr rushing along with Elesh... I only own one Elesh though. :(

Suffer the past is doable... I'll throw that in my side board though, as we tend to play current block constructed at my FNM. Definitely taking your advise with Memoricide, if I have them... taking a look now.

I honestly don't know what to come up with for a specific 'win' card. hence the request for advice... lol
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 21:44

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I don't even know where to begin with this deck... I'm sorry for being harsh, but it is completely unfocused. I don't even know how you even stand a chance of playing anything with only 13 lands... Even with ramp, I wouldn't go under 22 lands, especially if you're trying to cast spells like Elesh Norn, and Carnifex Demon. Here are some cards I would take out, because they don't help you, or are no good:

-Unwinding Clock
-Frantic Salvage
-Exsanguinate
-Morbid Plunder
-Vigil for the Lost
-Painful Quandry
I also wouldn't run so much artifact hate, unless you are always up against really artifact heavy decks. Even then I don't think I would use 7 slots for them. I would maybe run like 3, or 4 at the most.

Hope this helps you get a little more focus in the deck. Oh, and don't forget to add about 10 lands...
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 21:48

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Yea... I just took 10 out of the count... that's not what I have been running... figured with excel...

Don't worry about being harsh, it is completely unfocused and that's why I asked for help. :)
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 21:53

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So I have changed it around, got it down to 67 cards... I got another white sun's zenith (long story)... so I guess that in combination with Elesh and Victory's herald would be my win condition...

12 flying-lifelink 4/4's coming at ya better be a wincon....

I have updated it... keeping painful quandary because it will slow the opponent down and make them a little more deliberate in their actions (or at least, here's to hoping). Hopefully this looks a little more "put together"

As for the artifact hate, that is for my own mostly... to allow me constant searches and shuffles for basics if needed... and to keep me drawing as I have no other way to draw effectively then blowing up my own ichor's. (at least one that fits with the Scars of mirrodin block). Plus, I loathe Tumble Magnet, Rust Tick, and Shriekhorn combos.... lol
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 22:37

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I guess I could throw a couple of 'due respects' in there...
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 22:41

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playset of Suffer the Past. a playset of Geth's Verdict same with Despise and Memoricide

Suffer the past - Zendikar block
Geth's Verdict - got it
Despise - not sure it's worth it, although with memoricide it would be...
Memoricide - turns out I don't have any! :eek: Lame... but I definitely like the idea that was headed in.
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Posted 10 June 2011 at 22:43

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