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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113101

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=116626

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113040

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113011

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113032


That should do. :D

Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=122519

[QUOTE=surewhynot]http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113101

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=116626

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113040

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113011

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=113032


That should do. :D[/QUOTE]

You never cease to amaze me surewhynot :p

Now you know how to do an aggro deck right

[QUOTE=ultrasloth7]You never cease to amaze me surewhynot :p

Now you know how to do an aggro deck right[/QUOTE]

Hehe thanks man. I hope all of those meet the "no card over $15" rule. There's a few that come close...but I think are all under.

Glad you like them! :D

[QUOTE=surewhynot]Hehe thanks man. I hope all of those meet the "no card over $15" rule. There's a few that come close...but I think are all under.

Glad you like them! :D[/QUOTE]

You actually did, your most expensive card out of any deck was Bloodghast at $14

[QUOTE=ultrasloth7]You actually did, your most expensive card out of any deck was Bloodghast at $14[/QUOTE]

WAT. What place are you buying Bloodghasts from?! :eek:

The place I buy from and often play at sells Bloodghasts for $5.50

ya Bloodghasts at 14$ must be for foil only....most places will sell it around 6-8$

[QUOTE=surewhynot]WAT. What place are you buying Bloodghasts from?! :eek:

The place I buy from and often play at sells Bloodghasts for $5.50[/QUOTE]

lol, where do you buy from? I was using starcity games

http://www.cardshark.com/CardDetail.aspx?id=29089&game=Magic

cardshark is the way to go!

well that or ebay.

[QUOTE=ultrasloth7]lol, where do you buy from? I was using starcity games[/QUOTE]

haha just a local card-game/comic book shop. I'm not actually sure what it's called lol (should probably know that...) <_<

[QUOTE=surewhynot]haha just a local card-game/comic book shop. I'm not actually sure what it's called lol (should probably know that...) <_<[/QUOTE]

The place like that near me is called Jester's Playhouse, but they have a poor selection of singles, they only carry legendaries and rares

Well I've been busy but I guess I can put something quick together:

4x Llanowar Elf
4x Arbor Elf
4x Garruk PackLeader
4x Leatherback Baloth
4x Obstinate Baloth
4x Sacred Wolf
4x Primal Bellow
3x Garruk Wildspeaker
3x Khalni Hydra
2x Gaea's Revenge
2x Overwhelming Stampede
22x Forest

There you go, Mono Green Aggro. Enjoy.
I especially want to build this deck just so I can play a Khalni Hydra on turn 3 or 4. Could be very painful.

[QUOTE=Lelouch32]Well I've been busy but I guess I can put something quick together:

4x Llanowar Elf
4x Arbor Elf
4x Garruk PackLeader
4x Leatherback Baloth
4x Obstinate Baloth
4x Sacred Wolf
4x Primal Bellow
3x Garruk Wildspeaker
3x Khalni Hydra
2x Gaea's Revenge
2x Overwhelming Stampede
22x Forest

There you go, Mono Green Aggro. Enjoy.
I especially want to build this deck just so I can play a Khalni Hydra on turn 3 or 4. Could be very painful.[/QUOTE]

Do you realize how close that is to being Stompy? All it needs is a few tweaks.

[QUOTE=surewhynot]Do you realize how close that is to being Stompy? All it needs is a few tweaks.[/QUOTE]

so what's the difference between 'aggro' and 'stompy' ?

Yes, please explain for I am most confused.

Haha. Well Stompy is aggro obviously. It's a very special type of aggro.

Stompy means that you use mana to its perfect efficiency every turn. Wasted mana is "shameful". It's one of the reasons that stompy is so fast. Additionally, stompy is big and ugly for as low a cost as you can find. The modern day stompy staple creature is Leatherback Baloth. It has no abilities at all, but in my standard stompy it's on the field turn 2 as a 4/5. The first stompy staple was Rogue Elephant...a 3/3 for 1 green that made you sac. the land you used for it. As far as I know, this card is where stompy got its name. In a Simpsons episode, a "rogue elephant" named Stompy is terrorizing the town.

Stompy is obviously mono-green. (However, very specific Naya decks, I think, could arguably be considered Stompy...but that's just me)

Stompy also almost never has anything that costs more that 4-5 mana. The exception to this is things that allow you to cheat them in, or VERY RARELY things that are like...6 mana but are very powerful in the deck. Again, this is rare and you need to be positive it's ok. Even then, only 2 of them could be allowed in. There's been some in the past, but the new best one in my opinion is Khalni Hydra.

Stompy usually has lots of crazy pumps. A stompy deck should be able to kill someone with it's "mana elf" if it wants to.

Stompy has some consequential card drawing. What this means is it forces the opponent to decide whether to get hit hard or give you card advantage. Old school stompy used Skull Clamp. Now that card is taken up by Infiltration Lens.

Now, to go back to the perfect mana effieciency thing. This doesn't just mean using every last bit of mana ever turn. It also means getting the most out of that mana. For example, in most cases a 2/2 or 2/3 for 3 is thought of as 1 or "1/2" wasted mana. Or a 1/1 for 2 is another 1 wasted mana.

So when you pay 3 mana for a 4/5 like Leatherback...well that's 3 mana "surplus" and none wasted.

Hope that helps!

so...you just assigned a name to qualify efficient aggro decks and then added restrictions?

never heard the name elsewhere so this might be something unique to your circle/region.

Sort of. Thanks for the explanation.

Do you like the deck?

[QUOTE=Seras]so...you just assigned a name to qualify efficient aggro decks and then added restrictions?

never heard the name elsewhere so this might be something unique to your circle/region.[/QUOTE]

I didn't assign the name to it. The first guy to make one did like...5 years ago. Stompy's been around for a long time dude.

[QUOTE=Lelouch32]Sort of. Thanks for the explanation.

Do you like the deck?[/QUOTE]

I do like it. And like I said, with some minor changes it could become Stompy :D

What would be those tweaks?

Alright, well truth be told it's not as "minor" as I may have hinted at. :D

Still, it's a hell of a lot closer than many other decks...trust me. Here's what it could look like with the changes made.

4x Llanowar Elf
4x Arbor Elf
4x Garruk's Companion
4x Leatherback Baloth
4x Obstinate Baloth
4x Harrow
4x Primal Bellow
2x Garruk Wildspeaker
2x Khalni Hydra
4x Scute Mob or Vines of Vastwood or Giant Growth or Groundswell
2x Infiltration Lens or Momentous Fall
2x Overwhelming Stampede
20 or 18x Forest
2 or 0xOran-Rief, the Vastwood

Believe me, the changes I made, comparatively, ARE minor :D

[QUOTE=surewhynot]I didn't assign the name to it. The first guy to make one did like...5 years ago. Stompy's been around for a long time dude.[/QUOTE]

lol @ 5 years being a long time :)

but like i said, never heard the term till your other thread about it.

Well now you know. And knowledge is power. *GI JOE~*

Thanks surewhynot. I'll consider putting the deck together once I get a few more cards.

[QUOTE=Seras]lol @ 5 years being a long time :)

but like i said, never heard the term till your other thread about it.[/QUOTE]

"Long" relative to other things in MTG. Anyway, I still am quite surprised that you've never heard of Stompy until this recently. :confused:

But I guess now is as good a time as ever! :D

[QUOTE=Lelouch32]Well now you know. And knowledge is power. *GI JOE~*

Thanks surewhynot. I'll consider putting the deck together once I get a few more cards.[/QUOTE]

My pleasure dude. :D

I actually haven't play tested this one yet, its Vamps, and I'm pretty sure it fits your aggro requirements, please let me know what you think, critisism is greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=124846

lol surewhynot, Everytime you make a post I learn something, keep on making those great decks, and together we will bring back the lost art of aggro/stompy. I remember way back when 6th edition was out, almost every deck you made was creature-based. That kind of deck doesn't exist much these days, which is why I made this thread in the first place. The other reason is because people seem to overlook these kinds of decks. Like I said earlier, I've beaten hundred dollar decks with a well-built aggro deck that cost no more than $10. (Also, I'm gonna see if I can make your suicide black deck, because I have most of the cards.) Sorry if thi s post is confusing, my ideas are just randomly spilling out.

Sometimes when I go through these threads and hear stories of the past editions, it feels like I'm surrounded by army veterans as they sit around talking about the good ole days.

"It was back in 7th Edition when I first came to Magic. Oh those were the times, full of good decks, good people, and no card was worth over 50 cents. Now you got all these youngen, whippersnappers with their Jace, the Mind Sculptors, and their Vengevines, and Mana Leaks. Wait a minute who are you people?"

:P

Oh man dude...I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. :D:D:D

And let me just say, if you played through the years where Fae Tempo decks, Extraction, ****ING TURBO-STASIS, and Entomb/Exhume ran rampant...you deserve to be called a war veteran :eek:

Well, hopefully this old vet can show you "wippersnappers" a thing or two, eh? :D

(Seriously, I'm still laughing)

Hey man, if your ever in New York, give me a call. I'll show exactly what a whippersnapper can cook up all on his own.

http://mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=123832

Just some good ol' fashioned blue beatdown :D