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Cancelling "Wrath of God" effects

Sorry - I know I just posted a topic, but another question came to mind as I was looking through my cards. I wanted to make a 'wrath of god' type deck based on the cards I have (I'm really thinking it might not work, but may want to try it out anyways).

I have the card "Endure" : Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you and permanents you control this turn

Is it possible to take out that card, and then right behind it play Wrath of God and have my cards be fine?

Also - if I have cards that have protection from white - that means they don't get killed by Wrath of God, right?

Thanks
Posted 03 March 2010 at 20:38

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The top of the stack resolves first so you'd technically need to cast wrath and THEN protection. Destruction isn't damage though, so you'd need a way to make your cards indestructible.

As for protection... I remember being told "DEBT" at one point but Im not sure if it was in relation to protection and since I'm considering running progenitus in my 5cc I'd like to know that one too...
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 02:33

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I believe that protection from black(for example) means that all black damage done to that creature is reduced to zero, and it cannot be the target of black spells or abilities. So a world-wide affect would still affect any creatures that have protection from that color. But find a judge to ask *looks at Loki* because i'm not entirely sure on that. Hope i helped:)
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 04:48

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I did some more research and yeah DEBT was for protection. Damage, Enchantments, Blocking, and Targetting are affected by protection. Destruction, non-targetting spells, and direct toughness changes (negative counters) would still affect it. Thus you can kill Progenitus with a Wrath or by giving it a bungton of -1/-1 counters.
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 06:18

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Don't look at me!!!

jk, yeah, Wrath gets around protection. Funny thing is, a creature with Protection from White (or anything) does have protection from Wrath. But, since Protection means can't be Damaged, Enchanted/Equipped, Blocked, or Targeted, Wrath looks at it, doesn't do any of those things, and still kills the dudes.
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 08:39

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[quote]As for protection... I remember being told "DEBT" at one point but Im not sure if it was in relation to protection and since I'm considering running progenitus in my 5cc I'd like to know that one too...[/QUOTE]

yes the DEBT rule is for protection: Damage, Enchanted, Blocked, Targeted
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 14:31

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F.Y.I.
Black does have mass exile which permanently gets rid of progenetils(progenenitus)
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 14:36

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You'd have to make them Indestructable to save them, possibly with an Eldrazi Monument or a Dauntless Escort.
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Posted 04 March 2010 at 14:38

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Eldrazi Monument = fun times.
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Posted 05 March 2010 at 10:56

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