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This deck is specifically built for tournament play. I was just not making it with mono red, always placing but not consistantly getting 1st or 2nd. this deck was suggested by NinjaStyle612, i gotta thank him for all the help with it. I plan to use it in an upcoming IQ and a PTQ, so i still have lots of playtesting coming up. If you have any good advice that can help set me up for a top finish please comment below
You want to consistantly do damage to your opponent every turn, until you have multiple edilons out, in which case attack with them and let your opponent kill themselves, or when they finally deal with edilon, you can unload your hand full of burn
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looks fine, but I think Reckoner is too cute. makes you put your strategy on hold for a turn to maybe stop them from attacking until they path him....worth a shot, but I wouldnt be surprised if it underwhelms.
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agreed. he is more an aggro threat. swap in some young pyros or guttersnipes for better effect
I would honestly like to run ajani vengeant... just seems high on the mana curve
I am looking for Ideas/Advice on this deck! trying to get ready for the modern ptq in 2 months. any help is appreciated, and ill return the favor
Vexing Devil
is terrible
is amazing in this type of deck. Think about it, a 1 drop 4/3. They either loose 4 life or try to deal with it By the late game there's not much point but if they don't pay the 4, then you know that they have removal. Plus if they're on low life it is a great creature to drop because it almost becomes deal with it or lose OR pay the life and lose
are we going to do this again? Im kind of sick of having this same interaction with you. This list is here because Zaklax asked me for advice on his burn deck, and instead of revamping that one because my changes were so sweeping, he just put what I had to say in another deck. THIS deck, youll notice is missing two mainboard cards. if you remove one Skullcrack, and add 3 Searing Blaze to this list, it is the EXACT list (mainboard, not sideboard) that I top 64'd GP Minneapolis with. We have established that you are, at best, a casual modern player, and as such, offer little actual value in your advice for the competitive side of the game. I playtested extensively with burn lists, even including Vexing Devil. the card is horrible in this list, and belongs in a Mono Red burn list, where you have to play bad creatures like Vexing Devil and Spark Elemental because you dont have enough burn spells to fill the gaps. RW Burn is NOT Mono Red Burn, and does not want the same cards. We can argue Modern all day, kid, but disliking my comments immediately doesnt make you any less wrong.
A) It's just my opinion B) What makes you think that was me? C) If it WERE me, I'd read the comment first Also, it is more Mono red slash white and DON'T say that it's because there aren't many white burn cards. How about Warleader's Helix? It's almost the same as Lightning Helix! But you're probably going to say no because it's 4 mana Then I'll suggest something like Young Pyromancer or Guttersnipe
1) your opinion makes the deck worse2) it was you, and the deck is no longer viewable. UG Infect, presumably taken down because the "deck creator" got called out for posting a netdeck. you wanted to take out one of the best cards, because you dont understand how the game works, apparently.3) youre actually wrong (surprise, surprise) about Warleader's Helix, it was going to be a 1 main/1 board but got cut at the last minute, and I found myself in a few situations at the GP where I would have liked to have a 4 drop to get over the Eidolon triggers. and its not even close to Lightning Helix on Power Level. Young Pyromancer doesnt fit in this deck because this deck isnt creature based, and doesnt want to attack. Guttersnipe is a trash card, and it makes my head hurt th try to figure out why people constantly suggest it for burn decks. its bad. you play it on turn 3, they kill it. congrats, you just timewalked yourself because you build bad decks. Maybe while we are at it, we can throw in some Spark Troopers and Boros Battlemages, huh? theyre in the right colors, and technically could be cast in this deck, so why not? why build a deck with a plan, when you can just jam red and white things into one and hope for the best?
I may not have the money or experience, but I have an idea of what to do. Ok, I'm not a fantastic deck builder and I never said I was! My main problem now is that the people that I know who are better than me I almost never see, and I am now one of the best people that play in the small group that I'm in now that all the good players left So for the sake of both of us don't go off at people you know nothing about. Also, I'm not a kid. Don't ever mistake me with someone like that.
I stated an opinion of a card, and you downvoted it and got butthurt. control yourself, and this likely wont happen. I dont care about who you are, or who you play with, but when someone is building a deck that I have a great deal of knowledge about, and you try to talk to me like I dont know what Im talking about, youre going to get treated like this. Your comments are not helpful to a competitive deckbuilding process, as we discussed in the UG infect deck. trying to help is one thing, but your comment wasnt even constructive. you just said "Vexing Devil" like that says it all. you treated it like the card is nothing but upside, and left it at that. try explaining why you think a card fits. maybe a conversation will start, instead of an argument. as for you being a kid, im willing to bet you are, based solely on this kind of behavior, and the fact that youre comments have references to people being "at least two years older than" you or some shit. And I promise you, my rep on here matters very little to me, so you can save the downvotes. or dont. whatever.
I have only played competitivly for a short 4 years now, but I have learned any card you play and your opponent gets to pick is bad. Did you get landfall with searing blaze a lot? I feel like I'm not dropping enough lands to make it great..What do you think of ajani vegeant as a 2-of? I know he isn't the best ever for 4 drop, but his -2 is a lightning helix, and his +1 is protection
And I am looking for tournament advice, its where I do most my playing
Im actually glad you said that Zak. I didnt want to point out exactly why it was bad, but you hit it on the head. Giving your opponent a choice is almost always the wrong play in any situation. As for Landfall, you run 8 fetches. hold a couple back to crack on their turn. RW Burn is not the same as R Burn. this list is more of a card interaction/finesse list, whereas R Burn just trys to end the game.
I like it a lot though, just cased it up an hour ago. I'm gonna run it on Friday. I will post results
do that. I hope you do well. I still have mine sleeved up, and am thinking about playing it tomorrow. I am trying to get my 4C Gifts list going too, though, so who knows.
With my Vexing Devil comment, I was in a rush and didn't have time to expand on the comment and being an asshole isn't going to make me stop being one back and if we want to get picky YOU were the one who bursted out at me first and I was only highlighting the positives of the card. Jeez. I also read the whole "Burn" part in the title and I know how people use Vexing in theirs And with that I bid you Adeu
I have never hidden the fact that Im an asshole, in fact, I am probably much better at it than you are, so if thats the road you want to walk, so be it. I dont know how many people I have to explain this to: VEXING DEVIL IS NOT A BURN CARD. neither is guttersnipe. or Spark Elemental. Or Hellspark Elemental. They are concessions the MONO RED burn deck makes because they dont have better options. RW Burn is NOT R Burn. not even close. just stop.
Type your deck naSO to fill the gaps i had i cut from 21 to 20 lands, then added in 3 path to exile MB (i was at 58 cards). it seemed like such a good card that if im splashing white i mine as well run it
path is good in case you get some asshat with a pro-red creature. plus as a really strategic play, ive seen it used on the caster's own creatures to get the extra land. maybe you could combo that with searing blaze if you decided to run some like ninjastyle did? what do you think ninja? good idea or bad?
Thanks drake i like what your saying. ninja placed real high with this deck. whats listed above is what i have cased up for FNM tommorow
I didnt like Path in the mainboard. you have enough burn to deal with most creatures, and if there are troublesome ones like Phyrexian Obliterator or Wurmcoil Engine, they can come in out of the board. I also thin that cutting the land is bold. I found myself wanting more than 21 a few times. either way, good luck tomorrow.
it looks nice. flows good too. i think you will do nicely. good luck! :D
Thanks Ninja and Drake! Im gonna playtest tonight and continue to play around, searing blaze may very well take paths slot, we will see
best of luck! hope it goes well for you!
just remember the interaction that Searing Blaze has regarding removal: if Searing Blaze's creature target gets removed with Blaze on the stack, the targetted player still takes damage from Blaze, which is sometimes confusing for people. A lot of people confuse this with effects like Cryptic Command choosing bounce, draw. If you remove the item they are trying to bounce, the whole spell fizzles. Searing Blaze has 2 targets, and as long as one of them is legal on resolution, the spell resolves. and dont get me wrong, Path is an excellent magic card, and a great reason to run white in the deck, but I found that it just felt better out of the board, because, realistically, this is an Eidolon deck, and to play path, you take 2, and dont deal any damage. it just feels loose to me.
this is a true point. i wasn't thinking about eidolon when i said that. that does pose a problem...
Yeah. Eidolon can be pesky. the best hands start out with Turn 1, Lava Spike or Goblin Guuide, turn 2 Eidolon, turns 3-x...attack with eidolon until they deal with it, then unload all the burn you have been saving in your hand. also, if you play against RU storm, getting an Eidolon down on turn 2 id almost an autowin. Storm decks dont play anything with a cmc higher than 2, and most do not run bolts in the mainboard, just Grapeshot, and to use a grapeshot to kill an Eidolon, they have to take at least 4 damage.
hehehe. sounds like fun to me. gems like this make me enjoy magic so much lol
So I went 4-1 on friday., in a pool of 22 I ended up only losing to the guy who went undefeated running a splinter twin deck. Ended up being second. My matchups were Game 1: Affinity- W, 2-0Game 2 UR twin- L, 1-2Game 3 Scapeshift-W, 2-1Game 4 esper control-W, 2-1Game 5 zoo- W 2-0My biggest problem was train and esper both ran spreading seas, which slowed me alot
Seems odd that Twin (im assuming thats what "train" meant) runs Seas...that doesnt seem like a good card choice for that type of deck. But 4-1 is pretty good, and through a couple tough matchups too. Zoo can be problematic, and Affinity is as close to a coinflip as there is for this deck.
Yes I was really happy going 2-0 against those two. The affinity didn't draw a plating in game one, and a burned off an overseer and a ravager. Match two I added in all my artifact removal and just ground him out.The zoo matchup was hard, game one I had two paths in my opening hand, so I blew all my removal in the first 2-3 turns, then burned him out. I played chalice of the void for one in game two and that made it a scoop
I had some good luck for sure. The spreading seas was side boarded in I believe, but it did hurt.. Damn twin deck
Chalice on one is a dangerous proposition in a burn deck. sometimes it works out though, but there may be better options. Im pretty sad you didnt get to play against Storm, to have a chance to see Eidolon just shut them down. its pretty awesome.
I went 3-2 with Gifts on Thursday, losing to UWR COntrol and BW Tokens, both matchups I feel are reasonable to win, so Ill be shelving this project for awhile, I think. Back to Reanimator :)
Wooho reanimater! Sometimes its just good/bad luck. I feel like I had some good luck to help me along
yeah, I mean, it happens, but you have to win your good matchups, and Tokens should get destroyed by the deck full of removal and boardwipes.... I just dont think its well positioned right now. feels a step too slow.