BUG counters, help?

by xinistr89 on 14 May 2013

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

Enchantments (3)

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Deck Description

(STANDARD DECK)
A deck based on accumulating counters on as many creatures as possible and destroying the opposition.

Deck Tags

  • BUG
  • Counters
  • Corpsejack Menace
  • Master Biomancer
  • Varolz
  • Vorel
  • bioshift
  • Counter
  • Black
  • Blue
  • Green
  • Desecration Demon
  • MTG
  • cards
  • Help
  • Evolve
  • Fun
  • Standard

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for BUG counters, help?

Try getting that price range down to a reasonable level perhaps?

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Posted 14 May 2013 at 23:50

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I pulled most of these cards from boosters, I believe the major money sinkers are the shock and split mana's, but awesome suggestion.

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Posted 14 May 2013 at 23:58

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you may be the luckiest man alive to booster 17 of these rares and the 4 mythic rare biomancers, just saying from a statistics impressive. i would hate to play this deck if it was tweaked a bit

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:03

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$200 is a respectable amount to spend on a deck if youre buying singles and planning on being competetive. most of my decks run upwards of $3-400. its not hard to do if you want the cards everyone wants. simple supply and demand

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:11

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I actually pulled 2 Masters and traded friends for the other 2, I've pulled a bonfire of the damned and a holo temporal mastery from the same booster so I guess I'm pretty lucky.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:12

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I know isn't that a bummer, when some cards come out they are kind of low, but when they see tournament play they JACK UP THE PRICE HIGH....

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:17

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most cards are projected high and either lose that value over the first few weeks of a set (Gideon from Gatecrash) or gain value over those weeks (Boros Reckoner went from $7 on gameday to $30 and leveled out at about $20) or stay the same (Ral Zarek from Dragon Maze has been between $28-$35 since prerelease)

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:19

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Yeah ive personally only made fun combo decks which are def competitive and rarely draft, just buy the cards i end up needing. poor college student, dont judge lol

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:23

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Hey guys I'm constantly revising this deck, so if anyone has any suggestions I'd love them.

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Posted 14 May 2013 at 23:56

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I also run this at FNM and most standard played decks that are any good cost an arm and a leg lol.

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Posted 14 May 2013 at 23:59

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hinterland harbor seems less useful than more forests since you down have either swamps or islands

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:04

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I've been constantly moving around the mana, I'll try your suggestion.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:09

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^lol.....come on man. he has a ton of Swamps and Islands. RTFC. Breeding pool is an Island, Overgrown Tomb is a Swamp, Watery Grave is both.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:12

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your mana base is fine.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:13

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Ty Ninja, I posted this mana setup on the vault because so far its working.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:16

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true story, forgot those are dual type lands durr

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:19

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Renegade Krasis and Increasing Savagery's are staples in +1/+1 counter decks.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:19

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Krasis may not have risen to staple status yet, but he is good. Savagry, on the other hand, I agree with 100%

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:20

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When I ran with Increasing Savagery's I had about 2 of them, what would you suggest to take out and how many to put in?

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:23

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Desecration demon. trade all 3 for 3 savagry

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:24

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Honestly, probably Plasma Capture. It's neat, but it's only really worth the 4 mana if you're running cards with X costs.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:25

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agreed for maybe not on the krases though fun cards for sure, maybe 1 less bioshift and burst of strength apiece? but i do love arbor elf and burst of strength. quite the conundrum

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:26

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Originally I had Renegade Krasis but the problem I had with him was it seemed I could only evolve him about once or twice depending if I had Master Biomancer on the field or not.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:27

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crowned ceratok perhaps?

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:29

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Yeah that's a good idea the only gripe I have with him is his mana cost, but I'll try it out, THNX.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:32

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Anyone know if Simic manipulator is any good in this deck, I was trying to run with him in my deck but idk if I should ?

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:34

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simic manipulator isnt good in any deck. I like Plasma Capture better than Desecration Demon here, because, while it is a 4 mana counter, it sets you up great on the next turn for a big creature with X in the CC thats missing from this deck....hmmmm.....





Primordial Hydra maybe?

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 00:37

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I will try Hydra, but what should I take out for it, the first draft of this deck had hydra over Master Biomancer but that was before I had any Masters.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:03

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What do you guys think of adding Gyre Sage, I had her in here as well but I felt like I had too much mana ramp ?

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:04

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-1 Biomancer
-2 Vorel (who isnt great here....decent, sure)

+3 Hydra

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:05

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How am I looking on the instant and sorcery department ???

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:14

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Also my previous revised version I ran with 2-3 rancor's, what do you guy's think about that? I mostly used them on Master Biomancer for the added counters other creatures would receive.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:17

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dissipate is better than Plasm Capture (I know I said earlier I liked it, but looking again, its slow) and Spell Rupture. Maybe dont run counters at all. I like Cyclonic Rift, because it deals with all permenants. I would drop your counters, add 3 Cyclonic Rift, Drop a Burst of Strength and a Bioshift and add 3 Urban Evolution (or farseek, to fix your mana early if UE doesnt work out)

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:19

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Nice suggestion, I didn't think of Cyclonic Rift at all.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:25

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What do you think about crowned ceratok like bsaf suggested, the only problem I have with him is that he's another 4 drop card.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:46

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to be honest, its OK, but not great. you need some early game stuff, and you dont have many great scavenge targets. maybe drop Varolz and add Strangleroot Giest

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:50

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I trimmed 1 Putrey and 1 Corpsejack as well as 1 Varolz for 3 strangleroot's.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:54

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I just dont see any good scavenge targets for Varolz....he works best with things like Diregraf Ghoul, Vexing Devil, and Slumbering Dragon

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 01:55

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Good point, took him out.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 02:03

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What about these cards?
Blessings of Nature
Garruk Relentless
Geralf's Messenger
Hindervines
Necropolis Regent
Nimbus Swimmer
Prime Speaker Zegana
Ulvenwald Bear
Undying Evil
Vorapede

at one point or the other I had these in my revisions.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 02:18

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I like Garruk, Primal over Relentless. his card draw option is huge. and Messanger is decent as well, but the BBB is tough to get in a 3 color deck and not become sidetracked. the rest are pretty meh, imo

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 02:20

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Yeah I had the same problem with Geralf's which is why he was taken out.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 02:31

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Switching hydras in for the desecration demons seems like a solid plan, looking a lot more trim now! However I would personally say that Varolz deserves to see the light of play with one copy; if you're running BUG and corpsejack there is little reason not to have one. That ability just might be what wins you the game , and with the creatures you have minus the hydra the scavenge cost is fairly efficient for the # of counters youd be getting. food for thought

In any case I'm scrapping my simic standard for a mono green evolve/counters stompy cuz it seems like it'll be fun to play with, input much appreciated

http://www.mtgvault.com/bsaf/decks/g-evolvecounters-stompy/

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 04:34

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the main reason to run Varolz is to scavenge CHEAP creatures, which this deck lacks. I dont think hes good here. especially since his ability is sorcery speed. Bloodrush is better as a wincon, simply because its cheaper and faster. dont get me wrong, I love Varolz, but he just doesnt fit as well here as he does other places.

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Posted 15 May 2013 at 12:47

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