Children of the Night

Yep! Got to mythic with it. Not convinced it's better than the usual one, but It's at like a 60% win rate so it's good.

I'd love to see it!

Ok I think I'll post a control list, I'm currently trying to make 3 color work.

I guess I'm surprised that people really follow links all that often, it's not like they're clickable, you have to copy and paste them. It's really not an inconvenience, but I know how people are and it seems like it would dissuade them. What links would I put?

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Maaaaybe Epiphany but chariot is fair.

I agree chariot is fair.

It is good!
(a1b2c3) :::-)

Thanks for the same comment 4 times buddy

In the past, or is it seeing a revival ?

Werewolves were only good in the early part of the standard format where nobody really has perfected the control decks and aggro decks can thrive, but didn't really have enough going on to compete later on, however they are totally viable and fun in alchemy right now. Different from this list, but pretty similar.

Heh, alchemy lists are not to be trusted outside its format.

It was fun to see how content creators went yay, over a format with basically dragons and clerics being played.

Magic is difficult because it's a game of imperfect information, alchemy is a level up in imperfect information, so it will not be an easy format at all.

Ordinary magic has been fixed based on imperfect understanding of the meta when it recieved fixes, so believing that alchemy is "more" fixable is a laugh, they will only understand it less themselves. It will be much more complex to fix than ordinary magic, and we all know how that's going to play out.

Nah, alchemy is a research station for player behaviour.

With some luck they will use the data to fix ordinary magic, as they could run early pre releases on alchemy and fix problems for paper before releases.

Alchemy is fun I like playing with wolves and actually beating a fair share of decks.

Werewolf did get mentioned by cgb and arjuna, and both cgb and crokeyz used one in their battle of the titans against each other, so it must have something going for it. Ofcourse they were trying to metagame each other, so that might have been a factor.

Is the alchemy meta starting to diversify ?

I've seen a lot of different decks pop up so far. Dragons is the most common, and werewolves seems to be pretty even with the red version, although there is a multicolored version that just seems worse in every way, there's an orzhov enchantments deck that seems to be crushed by werewolves, there's mono green which does well against werewolves but isn't unbeatable and there's a huge amount of blue with usually black and white, but kind of all over the place control decks playing a huge amount of alchemy only spells thatseems a little slow for werewolves, but it depends on the cards run, there's no one list that people seem to follow. Black sacrifice and blood on the snow decks exist also, and those seem much better at controlling werewolves. Overall against the field so far, werewolves seems like the best deck in the format In my opinion, but i've also really been liking a pretty streamlined azorius control deck with a few liers and hullbreaker horrors and a bunch of instants. Seems much better in a field without mono white being the aggro of choice.

Finally having 8 playable one drops really helps the deck come out fast, and puts the pressure on control decks much quicker than it was able to in standard, and the additon of fancy new mostly slow, albeit powerful control cards in alchemy really kind of leads to a very greedy control format where a deck like werewolves runs over 3/4 decks these days.

Interesting.
I haven't followed arena so much these days as I'm testing a lot of my own stuff.
I'll make sure to view it a little if I get the time.
I do have a longer dream about one day bringing paper and online closer by translation tools of a statistical kind, and alchemy will stand in my way :)

Update: after initially believing that dragons and werewolves are tied, I have since gone 5-0 against both kinds of dragons decks and am starting to shift my thoughts on the matchup. dragons has huge capability, but it really relies on fearsome whelp to win games, and even then, a 1/1 on turn 2 being your best play, with a mana rock being the next most common play really doesnt defend that well against a 1 drop 2 drop 3 drop 4 drop curve, especially on the draw. sure you might play a 4 drop turn 3, and a 6 drop turn 4, but far too often it seems they cant keep their life total high enough to defend on the draw against a wide board, and only occasionally counter race on the play.

Honestly, it's all about a rotating rock/paper/scissors between deck Archetypes, and werewolves loses to different decks than dragons does. So I'm not sure I would say one is better overall than the other, as they each have their strengths and weaknesses.

I mean at this point I'm just not sure what werewolves loses to all that consistently. I'm going to change this list to the alchemy version of the deck, and you can try it out for yourself. Dragons seems overyhyped in my opinion. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, I've never played dragons, but I've played it with esper control and werewolves and esper seems even and werewolves seems to beat it like 7 times out of 10. There are a ton of decks that I'm sure dragons beats, but honestly only mono green, mono black and the mirror have given me consisten trouble with werewolves.