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just a deck idea i have, just wondering if anyone had any advice for the deck overall, minus pain lands cause i'm not dropping $80 on lands EDIT Replaced anthem of Rakdos with Curse of Bloodletting- less inclusive cost, no need to worry about hellbent EDIT 2 Wrecking ball for faithless looting added tentative sideboard ideas Many thanks to ebonfyre for the help
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I like this deck, interesting mix of cards.
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any ideas, or no?
Might consider adding a rune scarred demon or 2. Being able to search for any card is nice. When runing red I like to use faithless looting to get through the library quicker.
i like runescarred alot, but he's a 7 drop, my bomb is rakdos, and he's only 6 (death's gate i plan on cheating out ie festering goblins and black cats) but i like the faithless looting idea, i always seem to forget that card
however, what can be taken out for the lootings?
id trade wrecking ball, by the time u can cast wrecking ball your opponent will probably have 2 to 3 lands if not more. With 4 mana you could cast looting twice, once for 1 mana and again for flashback costs. That's 4 cards extra uare drawing. You don't really need the wrcking ball for creature removal as the rest of the sorcerys you have are sufficient. Id trade tragic slip for something else. If playing non black decks doom blade suffices. Don't really need to worry bout giving most creatures minus 13, when doom blade works on most creatures.
Besides the only creatures I know of with more than 13 toughness which doom blade doesn't work on is emarkul. Artifact creatures can be dealt with other spells if needed.
getting rid of wrecking ball seems like a good idea, it was just for more removal, so i'll trade that for the lootings, then i like the slip because it lets me either kill something small or kill an indestructible, and since darksteel plate has become popular in the store i play at, i figured, why not, however geth's verdict may be slightly more effective, seeing as it causes loss of life
would bolts be better for fast removal?
I wouldn't worry bout bolts too much, I prefer doom blades and terminates since they kill most anything as oppose to bolt spells. Bolts are faster but late in a game they lack efficiency at removing more powerful creatures. Best used late for finishing off opponents with low hps in my opinion.
the nonblack creature thing makes me iffy though, idk, i'll playtest it a few times with proxied cards to see how it works as is, i may sideboard the doom blades as extra removal however
speaking of sideboard, any ideas? board wipe maybe?
Board wipe, damnation is good but expensive card, blacks version of wrath of god. Black sun zenith is nice since it shuffles into your own library. Both cards have their uses. I sometimes run with damnation in my reanimator deck since I can almost always recover faster than my opponents. Plague winds is awesome since it targets all opponent creatures, but the casting costs is very high. You could sideboard color specific board wipes like perish if u are against a green deck. Destroying all green creatures for very little mana is nice.
i forgot about black sun... dang that's a good idea, and i was looking towards land wipe as well, but color specific wipe would be a great idea, particularly since there's so much mono color in legacy, or even dual color, rakdos would kill the rest (hopefully)
would blasphemous act be worth tossing in?
Red has flashfire or something of that name which destroys all plains. Not sure what else is out there.
yeah that's the one
stench of evil does the same thing though
Flashfire is less mana costs though if I remember correctly
stench of evil is just black heavy instead of one red, but i cna see the benifit of that
here's another question for anyone who can answer, between raging goblin and goblin arsonist, which would be better for this deck?
In all honesty that is really up to you. If you like the way Your Festering Goblins benefit your deck then go with the arsonist and if not use the Raging Goblin. I would also like to bring up the idea of an onyx mage, it will give your creatures death touch making them pretty scary to any opponent. The ability does cost the same as a doom blade but if play your demons the way I do you have plenty of mana sitting around later in the game anyway. Also since you plan on sacrificing most of your creatures with Rakdos why don't you throw in a few skirsdag cultists? Kills your creatures and does some damage to boot. I read you say something about destroying lands so the best card I can think of is Poison the Well, it blows up a land and the controller takes 2 points of damage. If you want to get a turn advantage you could always put in some Sootstoke Kindlers to give one of your dudes haste. The last thing I will suggest is the Ashenmoor Liege which will give most of your dudes +2+2 since they are both black and red. I hope I have been helpful and I really do love your deck, demon was the first deck I ever played and I've love them since. Good Job
Thanks for the advice! i really love the liege myself, but at the same time, with rakdos hitting, he'll just face a sac anyway, and the onyx mage idea is really cool too, particularly with my trample demons :D thanks for the advice, i'll try that out a bit
now, i was also thinking of waiting to build this until return to ravnica comes out and pray to God they pull out rakdos first so i can have some fun there
The new set has a lot of good demon stuff so you should check that out too. Not to sound like a complete magic geek but are there any other decks you would like me to look at? I have some free time and I would like something to do lol.
hahaha, i spew deck ideas on here, and try to comment on as many people's as possible, but here's my other deck I play (still getting my rw humans on here too, so keep an eye out for that if you'd like) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=324421
The message on your deck might be a little long but I tried to help you =) When the humans deck comes out let me know and I look at it too. Good luck.