Budget Standard Turn 5 Kozilek

by Thinker on 02 January 2016

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (18 cards)

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Deck Description

During draft last week I pulled a Breaker of Armies. During the end of the day I saw a new player play fearsome awakening with quite a few dragons but mostly Dragonlord Atarka. From here I decided to play test with Breaker of Armies thinking to myself a turn five big creature can't be too powerful because Eldrazi Scion Token players would be able to get out these huge creatures just as fast. However, after play testing both decks I realized the true power of Rise from the Grave clone cards. I now have to present to you, a new standard deck. So stop targeting dragons with Rise from the Grave and start targeting Ulamog (who is in the sideboard and replaced by Bane of Bala Ged due to the fact the Ulamog cost $15 bucks and is too much for most people so I just replaced him with Bane of Bala Ged so the deck would cost as much as if you were to buy one copy of The Ceasless Hunger)(Bane of Bala Ged has been moved to the sideboard as it wash' working too well).

(Note: Ulamog will not always be the target and usually won't. I never tested Ulamog in the actual deck and don't know how well he will actually do. Also, ULAMOG IS NOT WHAT THIS DECK REVOLVES AROUND AND WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE. ULAMOG WAS JUST AN ATTENTION GETTER AND COULD BE AN OTHER ELDRAZI COMING OUT IN OATH OF THE GATEWATCH. UNTIL THEN THE REAL HERO OF THIS DECK IS BREAKER OF ARMIES. Thank you.)

How to Play

The deck's really simple. Just play search/mill spells until you get one of your bigger creatures into your graveyard and a Rise from the Grave clone card in your hand. Then, just use your clone card to get an Eldrazi out even if you won't be able to place to counters on it. Finally, try and get a Deadly Wanderings out as now your eldrazi will gain you 9-15 life (usually 14). From here you can just wear you opponent out to victory as Breaker of Armies will obliterate every creature on your opponent's side of the field even if it's going down with them.

(Note: Many of my friends have misinterpreted this decks sideboard as being it's legitimate sideboard. This deck's SIDEBOARD IS NOT IT'S LEGITIMATE SIDEBOARD. THE CARDS IN THIS DECK'S SIDEBOARD ARE ONLY SUGGESTIONS THAT MIGHT WORK IN THE MAINBOARD. For the actual sideboard should be made by the player of this deck as I do not know what is mostly played at that player's card shop. Thank you.)

Deck Tags

  • Standard
  • Control
  • Rogue
  • $15

Deck at a Glance

Social Stats

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Budget Standard Turn 5 Kozilek

Go on w/ your bad self, Thinker...good to see you're always on YOUR job!! Your choice of Eldrazi isn't bad at all; I envision plowing the road w/ Breaker, then following-up w/ Winnower, to make it unblockable, as a finisher. And Bane of Bala Ged certainly isn't terrible; I personally like it quite a lot (I think of it as a sort of Ceaseless Hunger jr. :D). I admit I did a double-take when I saw Epiphany...then I had a "DUH" moment, & it made perfect sense. xD As always, original & well thought-out, especially for a low-cost deck...a really nice way for a newchum (or someone just low on funds...like MOI!!) to get into the next gen Eldrazi mix. And as you point out, a person can add more expensive cards as they go if they wish to. +1, & keep 'em comin, big guy!

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Posted 02 January 2016 at 21:29

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Came back to make sure my comment actually posted (sometimes it doesn't, BAD website!!), & realized I had an epiphany about Epiphany...pretty funny stuff. All I can say in response to myself is thank whatever you believe in for coffee. xD

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Posted 02 January 2016 at 21:33

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Ahaha. Once again you make my day and if you don't mind I'd like to continue the name of Bane of Bala Ged being Ceasless Hunger Jr. :)

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 20:01

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this deck is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 16 January 2016 at 17:48

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this deck is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 16 January 2016 at 17:49

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Tnanks! I'm glad you like it.

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Posted 16 January 2016 at 19:16

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Posted 13 April 2016 at 01:45

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***a budgeted standard deck, if thats possible revolving around the thing in the ice.....:

http://www.mtgvault.com/wowwow27/decks/time-shared/

.............also the bigger cards may hold modern value. thank me later-

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Posted 20 April 2016 at 02:09

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Nice. That's a pretty effective deck build and it can easily be adjusted by players for their meta or personal tastes without dorking it all up. +1

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 02:37

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Thanks for the like and comments. I can't believe this deck already has three likes as it is my fastest deck to grow(#babysteps). Once again thank you.

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 20:03

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The only thing this deck looks a little vulnerable to is removal. It just takes one murderous cut(which none of your counters able to target) to get through, and suddenly you have no creatures. I know that you have lots of ways to get stuff out, so its probably not too much to worry about, since your counters will be able to hit almost any other removal, and if you don't have your counters you can always just get another stompy creature, but just something to be aware of. +1
This is a really interesting deck, Good Luck!
nerddude345

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 20:35

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Thanks for making me that muderous cut is a card. I forget about its existence completely. Luckily, you can always add some disdainful stroke which is what I thought about doing instead of awry. Also, I should probably put a single copy of murderous cut in here so thanks!

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 20:38

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Your dispel hits it, so I think you're good.

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Posted 09 February 2016 at 16:29

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This a good starting build for a reanimation deck. You may want to consider adding green into the mix, which will give you more Sultai tech. Sultai Ascendancy and Sidisi can do wonders for speeding you up. Bane of Bala Ged and Breaker of Armies are strong Eldrazi picks, but don't forget about Eldrazi Devastator. Having a trample creature is really important when your planning on having less creatures than your opponent.

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 21:57

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I wanted to add green into the mix but it would throw off the consistency of the deck. You can make a black green build instead of the one I have presented to you or a sultai build if you have the money to. The reason why I chose blue instead of green is because it doesn't have a discard card like Artificer's Epiphany. It also is more risky in the sense that you can end up milling a lot of Rise from the Grave clone cards. Eldrazi Devastator is also a good card and can be replaced with Bane of Bala Ged. Thanks for reminding me about Devastator :)

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 22:04

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I prefer Bane of Bala Ged though due to the fact that it can save your other Eldrazi creatures from things like Stasis Snare.

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 22:05

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Green might be able to be added since Reclaim is a card (forgot about it , sorry).

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 15:17

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Posted 03 January 2016 at 21:58

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Why are you playing eldrazi and not dragon reanimator? The dragons are better with more efficient Jund support cards and set up the win more efficiently than a big dumb guy

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 09:34

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If you want to play Dragon Reanimator go for it. The reason why I'm playing Eldrazi is so that I have better removal and counter spells. This is important when playing against a control player. Dragon Reanimator is also really slow and has nothing to compensate for this. After Atarka enters the field, you still don't have much to stabilize with. Where as with Eldrazi, you get to play Deadly wanderings which allows you to have something after losing five turns to get your big guy out. However, the mosts important reason I chose Eldrazi over dragons, is because everybody knows that Dragon Reanimator exists but not Eldrazi Reanimator. I play this game as a casual player and have the most fun in this game after home brewing a deck and then beating somebody with it. I had the most fun when I went 4-1 yesterday (January 3rd 2016) and the deck started to gain a little attention. At the end of the day I finished 8-2 and the deck was now known by everyone at the store as it may not have gone undefeated, but it was something new. The deck might be able to be competitive so it has that going for it. Finally, I still have to play against Dragon Reanimator.

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 15:28

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I get you, just thought it was worth asking the question, the biggest problem I've had with my brews is simply building a deck and when it comes to fine tuning it suddenly turns into a copy of Jeskai Black or Abzan because that seems to be the way to optimize them, like blue just demands Jace because the raw power. That's a thing actually, I know this version is budget but if you actually wanted to go competitive, add Jace, gets stuff in the yard and draws you to your big outs. Although if you have a spare set of Jaces or the money for them, I'd be quite jealous ;)

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 18:24

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I'm sorry as I don't have any Jaces. I also can't believe that I didn't test the deck out with them so I'll see if I can do that this Saturday. Also, if I do get any Jaces, there all yours just for the suggestion. Thanks! :)

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 01:13

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Ahahaha I wish I could hold you to that!!!

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 12:06

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Ah Jace. I remember back when folks were hellbent on saying Nissa was better. The moment I saw Jace there was a minor heart mummer and a shock ensued in disbelief that WotC would print a powerhouse like this after the many years of lowering the power level of cards. It has almost no downside in any deck which likes to draw/filter cards and then reuse said cards. Just an a-maze-za-zing card (name the movie).

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 19:05

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By the way, in real life, are one of your names Keaton (not sure if I spelled that right).

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 03:42

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I'm not sure why my comment of 'wish i could hold you that' was downvoted so much, doesn't everyone want all the Jace's ever??

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 08:33

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I wouldn't really care as I find a good deal of fun by proving people that cards/decks they consider bad aren't so bad. People already know hat Jace is beyond amazing so I wouldn't really like a Jace.

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 23:34

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I was just thinking in terms of being able to build basically anything and money

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 08:48

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I was just thinking in terms of being able to build basically anything and money

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 08:55

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Then my purpose still holds as the card is known to be really strong.

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 15:50

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Sure sure, but its worth a lot just to sell on

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 17:11

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I guess so.

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Posted 11 January 2016 at 01:11

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Why are you playing eldrazi and not dragon reanimator? The dragons are better with more efficient Jund support cards and set up the win more efficiently than a big dumb guy

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 09:35

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One excellent reason that isn't in the main deck because of price is ulamog. I get where you're coming from because you could run any dragon regardless of color since it's reanimator but sneaking an Eldrazi fatty out like that sounds a bit more difficult to deal with, especially if the spell is able to resolve

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 12:53

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Current standard, Ulamog isn't really an issue, especially if he can't go and exile the two permanents, which he can't because you have to cast him- the number of crackling dooms in standard is the reason that Ramp isn't tier 1 (alongside other things) and simply atarka is more of a threat to plop down, and comes back bigger

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 13:00

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Eldrazi Ramp just took down the Pro Tour. Somehow it isn't tier 1?!? Gothy you are not paying attention. Targeted exile doesn't care about Crackling Doom when everything you cast affects the battlefield. Least you forget Ugin's Sanctum giving the deck much stability and recursion. The fact is you better have Crackling Doom otherwise the game is over. Even then a resolved turn 5 Ugin is the biggest trump card in a standard card pool without Hero's Downfall. If you would of said Infinite Obliteration was the reason then your comment would have some debate worthy qualities. Until Infinite Obliteration becomes main deck material, which it never will, then Eldrazi Ramp in all it's many forms is going to continue to find success in this standard and will probably only get better with Oath of the Gatewatch. However, I do agree, in this deck, Ulamog won't be very effective since the goal isn't to cast it.

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 14:05

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The things you say about Ulamog is true as I realized that Ulamog isn't that great. In fact, the hero of the deck is Breaker of Armies (and sometimes Eldrazi Devastator). You can also twist around the deck so that it works best for you. The deck I have to show to you is only a basis that will be upgraded through your suggestions. So thank you for your comments/suggestions.

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 15:09

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http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptbfz/top-8-decklists-2015-10-17 urmmm, no Eldrazi ramp here... and If you actually watched the SCG Player's championship you would have heard multiple times that the reason Eldrazi won was due to a metagaming call, it was a smart metagaming call, but one none the less. Eldrazi was good in a field with a limited number of players who had not prepared for it due to it not being a tier 1 deck, and feel free to ramp into that turn 6 Ulamog when you're down to such a tiny amount of life, or just dead because Standard isn't a slouch when you have Abzan Aggro, Jeskai Black, 4C Rally and Atarka Red as the 4 most played decks in the format, these decks tend to be all bad match ups (depending on deck configuration of course). Sure it is a good deck with a lot of potential but it will never be tier 1 because it will constantly fall victim to its own success as SBs adjust to it and proceed to crush it whilst Eldrazi can do nothing but watch. I have been paying attention thank you very much.

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 08:28

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And? Gothy you always think you are right, but time and time again I've proven you wrong. Eldrazi Ramp is a tier 1 deck with the win at the PC and will continue to gain popularity in more events. Just because the field has been sucking on the tit of Abzan and Jeskai black doesn't mean it's not tier one. To be fair the deck has been under represented in almost every open with the meta not changing much from week to week. It still beat up on the same top decks at the PC that will be in every open till Oath starts.

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 17:24

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You have your opinions, I have mine, I have facts on my side, take it up with the SCG coverage team, but frankly someone says to me that I can choose to play a field dominated by Eldrazi, Jeskai Black or Abzan, I choose Eldrazi every time because it has a very singular angle and doesn't really interact for enough time to allow the best decks available to crunch in hits and to get too far ahead. I actually really enjoy Eldrazi and just because something is tier 1 doesnt mean it cant take down events, but if you read Jim Davis' follow up article, he says, and I'm quoting, 'This deck is certainly a metagame choice'

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 18:21

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 23:19

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It's not that he's easy to troll at all. He just doesn't write out a master's thesis every time he feels the need to explain something. You insulted him so obviously he isn't going to take kindly to that

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Posted 05 January 2016 at 23:58

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Thanks Drake :)

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 00:02

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Man I really hate it when people start to fight. I believe that there are two sides to this debate. Even if Eldrazi are tier one, that doesn't mean anything. At least not for me. I learned this and must follow this moral as I played League of Legends and it has carried on to making decks. You can always change a deck to what you want it to be. Remember, there are always two sides to each coin and if you don't know how it is to be on the other side then try it before you start to argue (so sorry I'm horrible at explaining things).

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 01:18

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Not so horrible that I didn't hear you...you too, Drake. There's no real debate here, to begin w/...baiting, maybe, but not debate. So let's just end it, here & now. Nothin' but LOVE for you ALL...but mcflyguy, you need a talking to. (Just my opinion.)

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 09:45

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And mcflyguy, even if he were...do you think that would give you bragging rights? How so?

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 10:01

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Not at all, but at the same time Gothy has very much been a my opinion is the only opinion when challenged. He puts out empirical data with his own slant to support his ideas with no consideration to what it means. Specifically in this case he used the last open and the only the top 8 to support how Eldrazi Ramp isn't a top tier deck. Then tried to further this by using Jim Davis's words 'a good meta call' to imply a non tier 1 deck beat every other tier 1 deck, with a perfect record mind you against the field, as the end all be all. When in reality any deck which wins a tourney is a good meta call either by guessing the field and SB more correctly or in Gothy's option just got lucky with the deck itself. Let's be more clear, if the field doesn't prepare for a red deck a red deck prepared for the field will have a huge advantage and we've seen this time and time again. Yet this fact is completely gleaned over because of this perception of what is and what is not considered a tier 1 deck. Certainly you can classify decks by tier just by raw power and completeness, but to completely dismiss a deck because you feel it isn't a tier 1 deck and has up until now been severely under represented in tournaments as something other than a powerful and tournament worthy deck is pure folly and quiet honestly a complete lack of understanding how the standard format flows from week to week. This is of course my opinion on the matter and is by no mean the end all be all. So yes I will troll him from time to time because it's the way of the world to call people out on shortsightedness. If you want I challenge you to provide a more complete reason why you think this type of deck is only subject to a 'good meta call' and post it here to have a real debate on the subject.

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 13:47

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I don't know perhaps you could read Jim Davis' own article on the deck, where he says it was a good meta call-http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32133_How-I-Won-SCGPC.html it literally says in the SCG intro on the main page 'how he Meta gamed' moreover, that was not the open, you said Eldrazi ramp had just taken down a pro tour, I produced the pro tour top 8 that eldrazi were in standard for. If you read my comments I said the deck is strong and can take down tournaments but the reason it wasnt tier 1 was preparation for it. There tends to be a reason decks aren't shown off at tournaments and I just looked at the last three standard events at SCG and the last three on MTG top 8 and with all the information put together, you find a grand total of 2 copies at an SCG Classic. I never said Eldrazi got lucky, it was a powerful deck against the field, a small field of players who knew each other well and were in teams that would play the same deck, thus with the same deck lists and the stars lining up for Eldrazi it was perfect, however i think if Eldrazi had just been big at the previous open, Jim would have played a different deck.

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 15:51

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I don't know perhaps you could read Jim Davis' own article on the deck, where he says it was a good meta call-http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32133_How-I-Won-SCGPC.html it literally says in the SCG intro on the main page 'how he Meta gamed' moreover, that was not the open, you said Eldrazi ramp had just taken down a pro tour, I produced the pro tour top 8 that eldrazi were in standard for. If you read my comments I said the deck is strong and can take down tournaments but the reason it wasnt tier 1 was preparation for it. There tends to be a reason decks aren't shown off at tournaments and I just looked at the last three standard events at SCG and the last three on MTG top 8 and with all the information put together, you find a grand total of 2 copies at an SCG Classic. I never said Eldrazi got lucky, it was a powerful deck against the field, a small field of players who knew each other well and were in teams that would play the same deck, thus with the same deck lists and the stars lining up for Eldrazi it was perfect, however i think if Eldrazi had just been big at the previous open, Jim would have played a different deck. Stop trying to be some magic social warrior and insulting me, there is literally no point

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 15:56

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As of right now Eldrazi Ramp makes up 4% of all aggro decks. Aggro makes up about 63% of all decks right now. If you go to mtgtop8.com you'll see the deck has a shell and that is green. From that shell it can take any form to tackle the 'meta' making it a top deck in standard when played and prepped for the field. I would say it's win share percentage is better than Jeskai and Abazan, of course I didn't do any calculations to prove this, but on just visuals alone it surpasses both those decks in consistency. If you are insulted by facts and hard questions then go look in the mirror and ask yourself why. I've not called you a single name nor have I insulted your intelligence. Go ahead and show me one thing I've said to incite such a reaction by you or anyone of your followers. If you can't come to grips with a little criticism then quit replying. Otherwise deal with it. I personally don't care for baby gloves when discussing anything so bring it.

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 18:25

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None of those are facts or hard questions, and you literally just said my point- that it is a good deck that can take down tournaments against the Meta! I'm not sure why you are getting so mad about me saying its not 'tier 1' when I'm saying its a good deck? You've called me short sighted and claimed that I always think I am right, for a start neither are true but also how does saying that help your points about a DECK, not a player but a deck. Also, percentage I got from Eldrazi placed U/G highest followed by Naya- U/G with just above 2% and Naya at around 1.6% collated from paper and online. I've frankly had enough of this, but just take your trolling elsewhere or just stop with it because frankly, its not welcome on the Vault.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 17:47

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 20:39

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I'm not mad at anything you said. Do remember board chats are impossible to emulate emotion. I try to read everything as though Eugene Levy from Clear Eyes is speaking lol. I'll never stop trolling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Troll life!!!!!!!!

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 20:42

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Deadly Wanderings should be Languish IMO. I would even prefer Dark Petition over it. Even though you are not ramping there should be 4 Shrine of the Forsaken Gods in your mana base. With all that being said dumping Horribly Awry for some Drowner of Hope would be a huge boon since you are going with U/B. In all honesty dumping all the counterspells for removal would give you more reach. Since you have such a heavy graveyard strategy you may consider Ulamog's Reclaimer as a SB option against decks which run any delve effects. Could also toy with Sire of Stagnation. Getting him in play a turn earlier could be really good, but I've never used in any brew yet to see if milling two and drawing two would be enough to consider it playable.

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 14:10

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Thanks for the suggestion's, but I guess I'll have to test more. By the way I went 8-2 out of the ten games I played with this deck (I think I got lucky on six of them). I'll definitely try out more removal to see how things go so thank you!

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 15:01

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Like I said previously I still need to test the deck and you can change the cards you want to make it better.

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Posted 04 January 2016 at 15:10

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Methinks you may be too unassuming...you built a good deck. (just sayin')

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 10:07

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Thanks for letting me know that I built a good deck as I thought it wouldn't get so much attention. However, there are ways to make it better. Now, going back on what mcflyguy said, I don't see either Shrine of Forsaken Gods nor Drowner of Hope being in the deck as it is very difficult to get anywhere close to the amount of mana/lands required to make them useful,but once again, thank you for suggesting!

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 16:42

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Drowner of Hope is a great stalling mechanism not to mention it triggers on ETB which would give you value from the graveyard unlike many of the most powerful Eldrazi which triggers upon casting and is a 5/5 with 2 1/1's. In my experience with graveyard strategies you want to have as many ETB effects to maximize the impact of putting things in your yard. I will say only having 20 lands is usually problematic considering you are trying to get to 5 mana in play which is a quarter of all your available lands. Since you are putting things in your yard with Scheming you'll no doubt end up putting lands in the yard which would hinder your mana development. If it hasn't happened yet good, but numbers suggest 20 is not enough. With that being said Shrine will not be good if you stay at 20 lands but otherwise it's a free mana once you get to 7. It's tempting to cut mana for more spells, but you really do have to make sure you hit your mana every turn for five turns to maintain a certain level of consistency. Just my two cents on the matter of mana.

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 19:17

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But you don't have to put the cards you look at with scheming into the grave. What you do is ensure that you have the mana you need available to draw while throwing things into your graveyard and making your successive draws more likely to be what you need. Unless he is already at five+ lands I don't see him tossing out land unless he has five lands on top of his deck when he cats scheming. It's a very useful spell in this style of build because you don't HAVE to throw everything out.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 01:21

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I haven't had too many issues with lands getting onto the field. Usually after I hit 2-3 lands I start to get rolling. This could just be luck but it works for me and sometimes different things work for different people. You might have to change the land base but it's been working for me. Likewise, Drowner of Hope might work for you or you might have to change the land base to get it working, but your going to have to test that as I am not you. Thanks!

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 03:20

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I suppose. If those 4 cards are the main factor for smoothing out your mana development then good cause having more spells is always an advantage.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 20:43

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Wow. Wasn't expecting you to see my side. Thanks.

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Posted 08 January 2016 at 01:32

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Is it me ....or does it seem a little short on lands?

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Posted 06 January 2016 at 22:46

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1/3 of the deck being land isn't shirt considering that he's trying to get stuff into the grave. Self mill into reanimation

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 01:15

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I wouldn't mind if you changed up the lands and started testing and it is true that sometimes you may be to short on lands. However, as soon you hit 2-3 mana your set. If you want to change the amount of lands go ahead but the amount of lands I have now are currently working for me.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 03:17

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I think it was just the RNG yesterday. The sample hands I'm getting today look way way better.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 15:20

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i built this deck for fun and had my gf play it, and she domiated. We played 5 games and she won 4 of them. Great build

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 16:18

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283hygogg sorry to bother again but you still haven't answered my questions and for you Knivez, can you tell me what RNG stands for and if you changed anything to get better hands? Thanks to the both of you!

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 06:19

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Random number generator. It's how the site produces is random hands and future draws

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 08:17

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Thanks for telling me Knivez. That's going to make my competitive life so much easier.

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 23:32

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I built this deck for fun and had my gf play it, and she domiated. We played 5 games and she won 4 of them. Great build. The lands were not an issue at all. We did put in 4 Ulamog's instead of the Breaker's and the only thing that seemed to beat the desk was Jeskai black.

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Posted 07 January 2016 at 16:20

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Now that I think of it, the two games I lost when testing were also Jeskai Black, but then again I did win one game against that deck. I think the deck's Mantis Rider and Crackling Doom Make the deck slow enough so that there burn spells matter. I wonder if there is any good sideboard against Jeskai Black. Let me know if you find anything. Also, thanks for testing I really owe you one. By the way, can you tell me if your girlfriend is new or an experienced Magic: The Gathering player and who has more experience with the game, you or her. Hope you both have a great relationship!

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Posted 08 January 2016 at 01:43

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she is relatively new to the game and not very experienced, and I have been playing since Champanions. We booth loved the deck, but the Ulamog's did come out for the Breaker's since they don't get cast.

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 03:34

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Oh that's great. Thanks for answering, and sorry if you had to buy some Ulamogs as I like Breakers instead. I should probably make it more clear that Breaker > Ulamog (at least in this deck, a $.20 card is better than a $20.00 card.)

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 15:54

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i have 5 of them, so i din't have to buy any for the deck. Breaker is awesome in here, and i put 3 Bane of Bala Ged's in the board for silkwraps and whatnot.

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 17:50

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How does Bane actually test, something you would mainboard or is it not big enough?

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 19:28

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How does Bane actually test, something you would mainboard or is it not big enough?

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Posted 10 January 2016 at 19:29

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In my store, most people don't play cards like that so Void Winnower does the trick. Also, The another ten(maybe 12) mana Eldrazi is coming out from Oath of the Gatewatch which really make it so that you wouldn't have to care about cards like that and even if the card doesn't work like how I want it then I could still go back to standard permanent/enchanment/artifact removal.

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Posted 11 January 2016 at 01:10

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great deck, I love how there is room for someone to buy into a better, yet more expensive, version of the deck, this is haow budget decks should be!!
what do you think of running green? I like the sultai reanimator decks ive seen running around online. I also like desolation twin and sidsi, brood tyrant

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Posted 08 January 2016 at 21:34

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Dude twin and sidisi would be awesome in this!

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 01:36

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I actually tried desolation twin. The card can work in the deck but you get most of it's value only after hard casting it and due to Dwadly Wanderings, I rather have a big creature that swipes the board in one-shot rather than two ten tens in which won't have anything that allows you to gain life back. Thanks for mentioning Sidisi by the way I never thought about the card so I guess I could try her. Also, the thing is with green, is that you can play green but you will most likely also need reclaim, because of this, I decided that there would be three variations of the deck that I would test: Green Black, Blue Black, and a whole bunch of different Sultai variants. Thanks you two!

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Posted 09 January 2016 at 06:17

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I tried to make your deck in a Sultai variant. I have not tested it for the moment, but adding the green may allow you to cast necromantic summon turn 4 instead of 5. So turn 4 : Eldrazi on board. Turn 5 enchantment deadly wandering.

I think playing Sidisi brood tyrant in this deck will not be a good choice. First there is not enough creatures in the deck and there is a few chance only to have 2/2 Zombis on the battlefield. Then the risk is to put the bad cards in graveyard.

Adding green change a few things, and the deck isn't budget anymore, because to run 3 colors you'll need lands.
You can try only with Yavimaya coast, Llanowar wastes, and evolving wild.
So I add Fetch land and more.
Green also add Den protector, to put back essential cards. (not budget)

here the deck list :
//Creature (17)
2 Bane of Bala Ged
4 Breaker of Armies
3 Den Protector
4 Loam Larva
4 Salvage Drone

//Enchantment (2)
2 Deadly Wanderings

//Instant (11)
4 Artificer's Epiphany
3 Dispel
4 Natural Connection

//Sorcery (10)
2 Bitter Revelation
4 Necromantic Summons
4 Taigam's Scheming

//Land (21)
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Cinder Glade
3 Forest
2 Island
3 Polluted Delta
2 Sunken Hollow
2 Swamp
3 Yavimaya Coast

Need to test now !

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Posted 19 January 2016 at 11:51

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Posted 19 January 2016 at 11:51

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Thanks for looking in to that. Also, if you are going to build the deck, do you mind informing me how the deck does? Thanks!

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Posted 19 January 2016 at 15:33

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Yop ! So I tried the Sultai version.
First, Loam Larva is very good to have every time a third land turn 3
Then Natural Connection is very effective, and it made me able to cast necromantic summons Turn 4, and I can often play Eldrazi from my hand.
But i finally i made some change. Deadly Wandering does not work in my version, because i have always 2 or more creatures on the battlefield. I put Tasigur The golden fang in the deck. It can be cast turn 3 with a Taigam's scheming, and his effect is very good.
I took off Den protector. Not effective in the deck. I always discard it.
I also put 4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy. Like i said before, the deck isn't budget anymore... :-p
I put 2 Treasure Cruise in, and out 2 Artificer's Epiphany, because i often had a empty hand.
I am still working on and will link you the list when it's finish
Anyway thanks for the main idea of the deck ;-)

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Posted 28 January 2016 at 11:12

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Thanks hope your new version works! I'm looking forward to seeing what others can do with this concept.

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Posted 28 January 2016 at 15:22

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I'm going to play this tonight at FNM.

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Posted 15 January 2016 at 16:33

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Wish you best of luck and if you don't mind I'd like the results. Thanks a bunch!

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Posted 16 January 2016 at 01:02

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What are we to do with the sideboard the deck is hella awesome but i am vaguely curious to what the sideboards purpose is

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Posted 20 January 2016 at 07:46

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I put two different quotes up in how this deck works (they can be found in the deck description and how to play). Please do me favor and read them. Thank you.

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Posted 20 January 2016 at 15:46

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what do you think about using bone splinters instead of palace familiars? i built the deck and have played it a few times, and found that i wasnt able to take advantage of deadly wanderings because i would have a salvage drone or familiar in play. having bone splinters would have let me use wanderings in a few scenarios. even if i had to use bone splinters to off one of my own drones, i still get to draw 2 and discard 2, feeding my graveyard. just a thought/observation.

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Posted 25 January 2016 at 20:04

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Thanks for the suggestion(I'm glass some people still find interest in this deck) I'll try it. Once again thanks a bunch!

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Posted 26 January 2016 at 15:45

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no problem. The deck is pretty fun. It might be fun as a control/lockdown kind of deck too with some of the suggestions listed above. with bane of bala ged and drowner of hope.

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Posted 28 January 2016 at 17:51

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Wow you're right, that could be another variation of this deck.

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Posted 25 January 2016 at 20:08

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Seems a little light on land considering turn 5 appears to be quite crucial. A playset of Dismal Backwater maybe? Anyone willing to check out my Temur Aggro deck? Likes and advice greatly appreciated! http://www.mtgvault.com/clickboss/decks/temur-aggro/

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Posted 28 January 2016 at 23:34

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5 lands does seem critical and all but after you hit 2-3 lands getting those other lands is nothing to worry about.

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Posted 29 January 2016 at 00:57

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I am a big fan of the Eldrazi, and am always a fan of budget I am definetly going to try something like this. For the price it is almost hard not to try it out.

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Posted 05 February 2016 at 12:06

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Ahaha. I'm glad you like it!

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 02:00

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Ok so I'm prety much a newb, mostly play at the table with some friends and have a question about damage, mainly about Breaker of Armies. I'm Probably going to sound dumb but here I go anyways lol. So say you enter attack phase and declare a 1/2 attacking, then they double block with 2 1/1 goblin tokens; you would chose how damage is delt and would do damage to the first blocker killing it, then the secound blocker would damage you killing your 1/2 and living right???
So if you Attack with Breaker of Armies and and they have 8 1/1 tokens and are forced to block with all of them, Breaker of Armies would die and 7 of their 1/1 tokens would live???

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 02:01

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First, we were all new to this game in which we were all newbs. Now to answer your question. If your opponent blocks with multiple creatures then you get to choose how your creature assigns combat damage to their creature(s). Also, if a scenario like the 8 1/1 tokens occurred, then you get to deal ten damage to the opposing creatures in any fashion. Thus, all eight tokens would go down along with your giant because your giant would deal one damage to each of the tokens, and if it had trample, it would have two remaining damage to hit your opponent or one of their planeswalkers.

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 05:33

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So you can combo "Touch of Moonglove" with "Breaker of Armies" ???

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 06:56

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And thank you

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 06:57

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No problem and yes you can combo Touch of Moonglove with Breaker of Armies, but deadly wanderings already gives him deathtouch. If you have anymore questions or would like for me to check out a deck of your just ask.

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Posted 11 February 2016 at 15:28

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100 comments! Also, I'd add a little mana ramp just in case

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Posted 19 February 2016 at 04:19

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Thanks for the comments. Also, why would I need mana ramp? The deck survives by itself really well before turn five and after you get your combo off their are almost no situations in which I have lost.

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Posted 19 February 2016 at 05:06

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Fair enough

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Posted 21 February 2016 at 16:29

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Fair enough

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Posted 21 February 2016 at 16:30

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Thanks for suggesting it though.

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Posted 21 February 2016 at 20:42

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I would suggest Corpse Churn to put 3 cards in graveyard to get your big creature in and return a useful creature to your hand. I tried making a version with cards i have and i'm gonna try it out soon. It will be my actual first Standard deck, always played modern.

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Posted 20 February 2016 at 21:55

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The card could work but their's nothing I can take out for it. I'll try it out and see if it can make it into the deck but for now I'll leave it be. After all, why change something that is already working? Thank you for the suggestion and will you be ever so much more gracious by telling me what deck you will be playing and the deck list? Once again, thank you.

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Posted 21 February 2016 at 20:46

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It is just like yours and i will try it as you have made it. I do have some of your side board suggestions, so i will try and see what they will do as well. I have made the deck public and thank you for the great deck idea.

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Posted 22 February 2016 at 03:58

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Dang I wasn't expecting that. If anybody should be thanking somebody it should be me thanking you as you are not only spreading the idea of the deck but also testing other cards again. So thank you :)

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Posted 22 February 2016 at 05:11

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I am really liking this deck. Great build

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Posted 25 February 2016 at 20:40

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Thanks. I'm glad you like it.

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Posted 25 February 2016 at 23:52

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Can I use your deck as a base ideal? Doing won't to just use your ideal without asking

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Posted 26 February 2016 at 16:28

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Can I use your deck as a base ideal? Didnt won't to just use your ideal without asking

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Posted 26 February 2016 at 16:28

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Yeah go for it. Everybody has to start somewhere after all. Also, I thank you for asking me as I have never saw an act(magic-wise) so respectful. Thank you.

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Posted 27 February 2016 at 20:23

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I was raised to treat people the way you want treated. I finished my version of the deck let me know what you think.

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Posted 27 February 2016 at 21:10

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Turn 5 kozilek..... with no kozilek. ????????????????????????????????????????

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Posted 29 February 2016 at 07:19

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The deck used to say turn five Ulamog and you can if you read the description and didn't miss reading the budget part in the title then you will understand. Anyways, what I mean by Turn 5 Kozilek is that you are able to use reanimated spells to reanimate creatures other than dragons. Although this idea sounds simple, many people overlook it thinking it. From here, you can put in a few copies of kozilek into the mainboard and take out Void Winnower for it. However, the main creature/hero of the deck is Breaker of Armies as it the perfect card to get you back into the game especially with deadly wanderings out.

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Posted 29 February 2016 at 15:33

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he was too dangerous.. we replaced him with fog bank

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Posted 20 April 2016 at 02:10

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I like the deck. You guys should check out my black white eldrazi standard deck and let me know what you guys think of it.

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Posted 02 March 2016 at 02:15

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use unburial rites.

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Posted 04 March 2016 at 15:13

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Unburial Rites is for modern and to make t more effective than Necromatic Summons I would have to make a white build around the deck but the card would probably work in a modern White/Black Eldrazi Reanimater control deck.

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 02:25

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use it anyway, tell em you like the art more

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 04:52

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Ahaha. Got me there sure.

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 05:33

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eldrazi suck

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 05:38

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Why do you say that?

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 05:51

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standard, right?

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Posted 05 March 2016 at 12:32

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In general.

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Posted 06 March 2016 at 01:54

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they had their eldrazi spayed or neutered for standard.

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Posted 06 March 2016 at 06:43

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This is nice I wish I could think through the turns like you do. I do have a question though. How would you play this deck against an aggro deck? It seems like this take a bit of time to get the board built up to where you want it. And even longer if you have to go milling for cards.

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Posted 20 April 2016 at 01:51

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Sorry this is so late (Didn't see the comment). I would say, that against aggressive decks, sideboard is your best friend. Chump blockers are huge too. It was a long time ago but I don't believe there were that many aggressive decks in standard at the time this was legal so, and the ones that did exist wouldn't usually get you until the later turns (maybe turn six or seven?). Unfortunately, I was forced to leave Magic for a while because of school and whatnot so I kind of forgot. Currently, i'm playing a lot of Modern so I don't even understand standard that well. My apologies. I'll make sure not to miss you next time.

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Posted 04 April 2019 at 21:13

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You can only have 15 cards in side and i really like the deck.
Oops sorry didn't read the not at the bottom i still really like the deck.

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Posted 21 April 2016 at 01:47

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Opps sorry didn't read the not at the bottom i sttell really like the deck.

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Posted 21 April 2016 at 01:56

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great deck, love to get your opinion on my zombie mill deck.

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Posted 16 May 2016 at 22:28

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needs emrakul

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Posted 23 May 2016 at 15:48

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Yes because emrakul is totally standard. And budget.

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Posted 23 May 2016 at 17:49

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He may be talking about the new emrakul. That would be standard, but not budget.

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Posted 25 June 2016 at 22:05

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Posted way before it was sneak peeked. But if we take it as philosophy, a lot of budget decks could use an emrakrul haha

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Posted 26 June 2016 at 03:23

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A lot of budget decks need to realize that you can "budget" out the cards in it and therefore have something that costs more than a $20 bill. Budget to me is buying $20-$30 worth of cards at a time when I want to build a new deck. Takes awhile to finish, but then I'm not using $0.25 alternatives that kinda do what I want to a $4 card that does exactly what I want

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Posted 26 June 2016 at 21:39

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Sorry thinker but this deck isnt standard due to bitter revelations and taigam's scheming

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Posted 23 July 2016 at 13:26

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I know but when I made the deck it was. I hardly have time to play this game anymore.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 01:17

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Love the deck, just keep in mind that Taigam's Scheming is no longer standard legal.

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Posted 20 August 2016 at 17:46

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He knows i told him read the comments

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Posted 23 August 2016 at 20:58

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They recently printed a new standard version of Taigam's Scheming called Contingency Plan in the Eldrich Moon set.

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Posted 12 September 2016 at 19:14

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I made this deck for $8 and won the the first game i played with it

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Posted 17 September 2016 at 18:10

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