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Eventually, the sideboard cards will be added to this deck, replacing wayfaring temple, precinct captain, alive // well. The question mainly is Thragtusk or Entreat the Angels filling out the final 2-3 card slots. Thragtusk is a better control fighter but Entreat the Angels gives me evasion. I know also that entreat is much worse if I don't miracle it so I'm leaning towards Thrag but another 5 drop worries me a little. Not sure how to fill it out once I add the other cards.-B
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I think the big thing here is seeing the problem; this deck outscales almost everything late already, but struggles to apply any pressure early or set up defenses. I also think it has too many cards that don't do a lot except in one exactly right situation (pilgrim, mystic, temple, alive//well). I would strongly advocate resisting any more five drops and instead focusing on replacing the early cards you have now that aren't great in the midgame and beyond with one's that are. I would look to take out 2 Alive//Well, 4 Pilgrims, 4 Mystics, and 2 W Temples for adding 1 Voice of Resurgence, 4 Rancor, 4 Call to the Conclave, 1 Trostani, and 2 Pacifism. All of the cards I suggested are good turn two AND turn ten, which seems to me to be what the deck is lacking now. -Boyf
I’ve got some recommendations for this one. I think these make the deck more versatile and synergistic at the same time.-4 Avacyn’s Pilgrim-4 Elvish Mystic-4 Precinct Captain-2 Wayfaring Temple-3 Geist-Honored Monk-2 Alive / Well+1 Voice of Resurgence (Christmas is coming!)+2 Trostani, Selesnya’s Voice+4 Call of the Conclave+4 Druid’s Deliverance+2 Gather the Townsfolk+2 Intangible Virtue+2 Sundering Growth+2 Entreat the Angels (these are like, $2 now)At 25 land, you shouldn’t need mana dorks with this deck. And the Pilgrims and Mystics are dead draws after turn 2.Trostani, Druid’s Deliverance, and Sundering Growth are cheap, reliable Populate triggers with good utility. Also, between Trostani, Deliverance, Growth, and the Charm, you have at least some means of dealing with a wide variety of threats, or gaining shit loads of life. Also, I don’t hate extra Trostanis in your hand because he should be able to make extra creatures off any tokens you have out, limiting the pain of uncastable extra copies in your hand.In this deck, I’d recommend cards that make immediate tokens like Call of the Conclave over cards that potentially have more value, but aren’t guaranteed token makers like Precinct Captain. These will be quicker (and better) populate targets early, and late game they can make a bigger immediate impact if you have Parallel Lives out.Entreat the Angels was always a card worth considering in this deck, and finally the $$$ has stopped being prohibitive. Geist-Honored Monk is a perfectly good alternative, but I like Entreat better for a couple reasons – 1) Entreat creates better Populate targets than the Monk (4/4 vs 1/1); 2) Entreat can be insane value when miracled (and even a 4/4 flying for 5 isn’t terrible).I’m not even sure the deck needs Intangible Virtue, but it’s definitely a great fit. I can tell you from experience that giving everything Vigilance along with the +1/+1 is really powerful.In summary – Trostani’s cheap populate plus lifegain makes him one of, if not the strongest card in the deck. Skewing the deck more towards early tokens and populate synergizes with other powerhouses already there like Parallel Lives and Advent, and really, I think it synergizes with everything. And the cheap populate cards give the deck some nice utility. Druid’s Deliverance and Trostani can really elongate the game, which should play really well for a deck full of insane value factories.
So here is what I'm most afraid of with this deck, board wipes (As with any creature based deck). Since it's a token deck even cyclonic rift and Engulf the shores or Awoken horror are board wipes. Sweepers used to wreck me with things like Call of the Conclave and gather the townsfolk, because they are one-off token creators. I know they make tokens more consistently than precinct captain but that is the reason I went in the more creatures less token spells direction with the deck. Now I know I won't have (Hopefully) spent all my spells when wipes are a possibility but I don't know if the populate spells are enough to rebuild the board especially if I'm only able to use half of those cards. Do you guys think Growing Ranks would be worth reconsideration for inclusion? To have a repeatable populate effect as well as Trostani so I make sure I have one every game.Also, and this is more directed to Mike, is Garruk no longer a "must add" in your opinion? You were pretty high on him when we discussed this deck a the beach. Just curious about your possible change of heart on him.
Board wipes are a legitimate concern, but I think the answer is in how you play. If you're facing the likelihood of board wipes, you should plan to build up your board state with populate BEFORE the board wipes, saving as many cards in your hand as possible to rebuild with.Since populate only works when you have a token already on the field, you would want to prioritize populating over casting cards to create more creatures whenever possible, generally speaking.When I look at the suggested list, you should have enough to come back from a board wipe if you keep some cards in hand to hedge against that possibility. And cards like Voice, Parallel Lives, and even Trostani and Entreat to an extent should help you rebuild. The strength of the deck is its tokens, and I think you're best option for dealing with board wipes is to play more conservatively. This deck can definitely hang in a longer game.As far as Garruk goes, he would also be great here. I was mostly excited that the Entreats had dropped in price that I forgot about him. I would, however, suggest limiting the number of Garruks, Entreats, and Monks. I wouldn't recommend including more than 3 or 4 cards total among this group. Intangible Virtue would probably be the low man out if you wanted to make more room for these cards, but I still like Virtue.The beauty of this deck is its crazy value from its synergy. With fewer high cost cards, you're likely to put pressure on the board and set up populate early without emptying your hand, and late game pressure is more about Parallel Lives and repeatable populate from Trostani than high cost cards. But Garruk, Entreat, and the Monk are all good options and you should have a couple.-Mike