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"Death is the path to Reverence". Countertop Braids meets Tempo. Yeah....
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It had to have bloodghast! :)
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Well of course! Plus, they work very nicely with Braids.
This is just stupid nasty, it even runs Chalice... Congratulations, I give this a stamp of awesome/evil!
Chalice is for ANT to be honest. Just...put it down =P Glad you're a fan =]
By the way, if I make any other Tempo decks, they too will have a Latin phrase as their title. Maybe..."Memento Mori?" or..."Semper Finalae"? =]
this is nasty.... lol.. can you check out this new deck of mine? http://mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=128964
Thanks. I'll try to get around to yours =]
Hey, for some reason that link doesn't work for me. =/ What is the deck called? That way I can find it on your profile.
Ok, now it's working. I'll take a look at it
Ha verry nasty as always great deck would love to play it just to see it in action.
To quote a friend, "You don't play against Countertop...you watch." =P I haven't lost with this since I made it. Glad you like it. =]
I'm baaaack =]
if you dont mind me asking im kinda confused on how this "countertop combo" works i have never seen it before so im kinda curious
It's Counterbalance with Sensei's Divining Top (thus Countertop). You use the Top to change what the top card of your library is, and often enough, this allows you to continuously counter the opponent's more crucial cards, thus putting their "tempo" and game-plan into lockdown. Countertop-Braids combo is that you add in Braids so that they have to sacrifice what little things they've played, or more likely, their lands since you will keep countering their lower-cost spells with countertop. In addition, if they ever do manage to get something in play, it will most likely be sacrificed before it can be put to use.
God damn that sacrifice deck spam has got to stop...-_-
Agreed it is quite agrivating.
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its still going!! gosh its annoying. its keeping my Elves from Hell deck off the list atm... wanna look at it anyways?
Yep. Just ignore him. Much like with Sour8, the punishment is in the fact that he's making a fool of himself, and if everyone ignores him, he gains nothing from it in the end.
I don't understand how you can reliably set up a countertop lock with this deck. There appears to be no tutor effects, card searching/sifting (brainstorm+fetchland/ponder) and only 2 of each lock piece in the deck. Also, it appears you are using the legacy card pool, and no brainstorm in a countertop deck. Brainstorm can let you search for cards, and also get stuff from your hand to the top of your library in unison with counterbalance. I highly recommend that card in countertop. Also, fetchlands are awesome if you get your hands on some duals. They let you reset the top 3 cards of your library for sensei's divining top.
This deck is first and formost a Tempo deck. The Countertop Braids is just a..."side dish". I may try to shift to having 3 tops and 3 counterbalance, as that may help to improve on the flow of the deck, and make the "side dish" into just another brutal part of the deck. Most decks that can fight against a Tempo deck run heavy in the low mana costs, and most commonly 2 mana costing cards. With 20 cards in the deck (1/3rd the deck), Countertop will stop that cold. I'm going to keep Braids at just 2, since she is mostly for those higher cost cards that I let slip by....which aren't much of a worry anyway. As for Research the Deep, it often didn't work very well with how many low-cost cards this deck has, but it is a good idea all the same =] Now, with Vendillion Clique, I must say that is an excellent idea! =] I tried it out (just a quick switch-out) and the resulting flustered look of my opponent (after I put the one card he needed on the bottom of his library) was just what I was looking for!
The only thing I would recommend is making it a little heaver towards the countertop lockdown setup, maybe add in a third sensie's divining top (awesome card so three is fine lol) and another counterbalance, and have you thought about research the deep? since your gonna know what your popping off the top of your deck anyways, you can abuse and re-use even one in your hand and to draw into the stuff you need right away. 2 mana isn't bad at all for a spell you can use every turn, it's like a ishron scepter in itself affect if you set it up right. Great Deck again bro! B/U for life! I love faeries so maybe thats why I love these decks, the lorywyn book they released with the fat packs was just too good.
Another thought: In a countertop-based deck, you might reconsider running mistbind clique. You can expect to counter what they are going to play anyways. Vendilion clique would probably perform better in that deck. You can snag removal that would otherwise get through. It appears that you are trying to allow counterbalance to work on cmc4 spells, but you can still see that consistency if you add fetchlands.
Wow how many decks do you plan on having in the top rated SERIOUSLY wtf sry about that nice deck i applaud you seems like it works nicely
If there was a point system, surewhynot would win :) What a guy! I hated playing against faeries. He threw tops on top of that (pun? hehe o.O), counterbalance, Dash hopes and bloodghast? I wouldn't want to play this.... :(
I love this deck! My first deck was a faerie deck but it wasn't that good ._. And droped it because it wasn't working, but now this gives me ideas^^ May I ask if you have suggestions for this deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=130961
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=101139 Hey surewhynot can you take a look at this deck when you get a chance. I think it would be fun to play cant seem to get it running a smoothly as i would like.
nice deck. think you could take a look at my decks and let me know some quick changes thank you.
So it's like Faetop? Interesting, what has it gone against? From what I know, fae normally have some issues in legacy so I'm curious if this has worked it out.
I haven't had much trouble in legacy with using fae...maybe it's just what's played around my area or something, but both this and my other Tempo deck are undefeated (save for a few games where I need to Sideboard). I like the sound of Faetop haha. As already said, Tempo and Countertop is just cruel. =]
For certain, I play Esper Countertop so this is right up my alley. What I meant by having issues is normally they can't keep up, but seems fixed. Any reason for no counterspell?
Dash Hopes is more geared towards Tempo than Counterspell. Yeah, they can choose that 5 life, but what I've often found is when they think they can afford the 5 life...they can't and when they think they can get by without the card I countered...they can't! XD As for speed issues, Merfolk and Goblins are sometimes a pain, but I can Sideboard against them pretty easy. Pretty much everything else is a cakewalk. Glad you like it =]
Pardon me for asking, but what exactly is a Tempo deck? Like, what's the concept behind it? Sorry, I'm pretty new to the game and haven't gotten into all the Magic "slang" per se. >.<
Taken from my other Tempo deck: ***"The idea here is that with many of the Faeries having "Flash", and with how many of their abilities mess with the opponent's ability to play things/do certain actions, the deck forces the game into a "Tempo". These decks are REALLY frustrating, as I can attest to having played against them. They make you flustered, and feel...rushed. You seriously just start making dumb mistakes because of how much you've been pushed "out of rhythm". I can't really explain it better than that without you actually playing against one of these. The flavor text of Pestermite perfectly says it -- "The fae know when they're not wanted. That's precisely why they show up." =]"*** That's the gist of it. A Tempo deck does just that, forces the game into a tempo. While I'm jumping the gun and making you rushed, your game-plan is developing huge holes/gaps in it. And like I said, there hard to explain past actually showing someone how they play. An analogy my friend once used is that it's like if in a baseball game, the pitcher was starting his wind-up as you're walking over to the plate.
Ah, I see... That sounds like an incredibly frustrating deck indeed! Haha, all the Flash and semi-scrying makes this look amazingly frustrating to play against, thanks! Hmm, how long have you been playing Magic? You have quite the number of old cards. :P
A long while ago. I was sort of lightly getting into it until Shadowmoor/Lorwyn...those are what got me into it. =] And yeah, Tempo is probably one of the most aggravating deck types to play against. I used to hate it (still do if I play against one). Now that I have two of my own (and another one in the making), I love them! =] Also, Tempo isn't Fae tribal by association and vice-versa. Fae just happens to be a very good way to make a Tempo deck. Hell, I've played a mono-Green Tempo (that was one ****ING WEIRD deck).
Oh, that's older than me... I got in around Eldrazi. xD Hmm, I have yet to play against one, but I wouldn't mind once or twice just for the experience. What deck types do you usually make? Ah, I would have doubted that, although I don't doubt their ability to do so. Similar to how merfolk is just good for milling I infer? (Oh geez, how did that work?)
I make all kinds of decks. I have a great love of Stompy decks, but after a rush of making them, am taking a long break (unless the next set allows me to make an Infect-Stomp). It is an experience to play them, as it is an experience to play against and/or use an Extraction deck, another deck-type sort of lost in the past. Pretty much that yeah (the merfolk thing). Glad you understand =]
Oh, I have seen some of those. I infer that Stompy = Fatties? As of yet, I have not established my own personal flavor, but I appear to be turning into a Phyrexian who happens to use a soldier deck on the side. :P Extraction? Hmm, another unfamiliar concept... Haha, thanks! On the side, I'm actually trying to make a fishy deck, haha.
Stompy does NOT mean Fatties. Stompy is a very special type of mono-green aggro that uses the absolute maximum efficiency of mana, no matter what. Take a look at any one of mine, you'll see what I mean. =] Extraction is sadly a deck type that has recently disappeared in obscurity =/ It's a deck that wins by using cards/abilities that search the opponent's library for specific cards (usually win conditions, but it can be just what they'd need at the moment) and removing it from the game, thus the name, Extraction. You extract and exile their deck to pieces until it just doesn't DO anything.
Ah, I get it now! Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding. Hmm, so extraction cards would be based on cards like Jester's Cap or Sadistic Sacrament?
Yep. Jester's Cap is one of the "founding fathers".
Ah, ok. Shall I infer that you have/have played against decks of that form as well? I'm learning so much... Thanks. :p
Yeah, I've used and played against other Tempo decks, Stompy, Extraction, the works. I've even had the scary "ditto" games, where both my opponent and I are playing the same type. Tempo vs Tempo is only outdone in shear epicness by Extraction vs Extraction.
i'm not at all familer with sort of deck but i have to say it sounds quiet Audacious and also very sick, as well as unique i applaude you for that, from your deck description to mickey34 it sounds like its finley balanced in terms of making it work , but i'm sure as its your deck it does, would another divinining top help and poss some scry abilitys ?? the combo with the braids is just awfull (ha in a good way) and i can see that pretty much everything in here messes with the opponent so its no one trick pony and would be very nasty to play against, i really like the whole tempo concept now im not sure if it would be quick enough or if it fits the concept completley but as its not something you do in responce but if i were looking to shut down an opponent id definetly play memoricide - how many decks are based around one key card ? or you can remove those cards that mess with this one such as enchantment killers ect, just an idea as i say i know little about this type of deck although i'm slightly fasinated by it, could you check out my permalife and swamp amigo decks as im going to give them lots of game play i think (swamp amigo's also uses braids), cheers my good man and this looks way cool well done !
I logged on to tweak one of my newer projects(Bant Vengevine), and I saw that this had hit top deck status. I expected it to make it, but this just makes me happy to see CounterTop/Braids front page! I can not explain the maddening props I give, THIS is what I want to see take the Grand Prix Madrid this year!
Hahaha thank you very much man. It's comments like these that make me love this site. And you might get your wish, I have a friend who has ordered his own copy of this deck and is going to try it out.
Higher in the comments I said that I dropped my faerie deck, there, I made it back, and it's really different from ''classic'' ones, or from yours, plz comment on it, it,s my very first deck I made and I'd like advices on them. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=157501