Mono Black: Turn 1or3 Win $13

True, lol. x2 ritual is funny. In theory: swamp, ritual, ritual, wall of blood, cultist, ritual, essence harvest = 1st turn win lol! I'll edit the title, seems like a good idea to me. Thanks for making sure I'm paying attention :P

you're welcome

And a turn 1 kill.
Swamp -> 3x dark ritual (7 floating) -> wall (4 floating) -> any of the life loss creatures/spells (3 or 2 floating) -> consumption

Turn 1 draw happens with 2x dark rituals, the wall and consumption.

That's 20 for 20; I wouldn't say thats a clean win... But I do like that!
The first turn win needs 3 of the Dark Rituals and Bump in the Night/Bile Urchin/Death Cultist

You can't actually pay 20 life, but I loved this deck so much I'm building it myself! I hope you don't mind, if you want I can update you on how it does?

Please do! I like hearing about how decks do with different crowds/circles.

There is a fantastic chap named Jeff who plays, I'll give him a game after my PTQ and once I have the cards!

I can't wait :D

By the way, which website to you use? The English one over here is really expensive!!!

What do you mean exactly? As in a website to play magic on? (if that's the case, I've actualyl never played online, just in person).

how did't you find this combo?

You're making too much sense! That's a great idea, thank you.

Thank you.

(literally just look at my computer screen for a moment)
Yes it would, yes it would. I'll draft a B/W 1 life deck. Thanks for the pointer!

a good deck built around the 1life was this one

http://www.mtgvault.com/roar/decks/yes-your-holiness/

maybe you can merge them :)

correct me if im wrong, but angels grace just grants one life back, so you can pump your wall infinitely.

You can pump it up as much as you want that way, the only thing about Angel's is x4 = $10.

I did a related deck just now, $17 edition. W/B/R:
http://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/i-almost-died-i-win-wbr-17/

Do you mean taking out Apostle's Blessing and placing Dash Hopes in its place? They could chose to take the five life when removing Wall of Blood, and the life advantage wouldn't be an issue for my opponent with my wall removed :(

I had Dash Hopes in originally, but removed it so I could have both Rite of Consumption and Essence Harvest.

Yeah, that's the catch. There is a large number of one drops that could be in almost any deck that really hurt my plans, but that's how it goes in a cheap combo heavy deck, right? Lightning bolt, Exile, Vapor Snag, a counter Bump in the Night could come from anyone and end it quickly. I'm ok with that though, you get what you pay for, right?

add leyline of sanctity to your list of cards which will totally ruin your plans :)

Anyway, very nice and cheap deck!

Yeah lol. That's a forfit moment. Wouldn't be surprised to see it, esp. with all the mill decks going right now.

It's still an epic turn 3 win, and most decks I have don't include more than 3 counters :P

This sort of combo isn't exactly legacy viable, but can be Casual playable. Now saying that I think you should add blue and specifically counter magic and control. To both hold off the opponent and guarantee the success of your combo.

This is the $13 budget version. Here is the link to the Legacy:
http://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/legacy-blood-fling-br/

Pestilence is the right idea, but in this case the mana cost to activate it gets in the way. But it is a fun card!

That's true; it's a great creature choice to prevent a hilarious and embarrassing Shock loss!

The deck we worked out for Wall of Blood / Near Death Experience (for $17) is here:
http://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/neardeathwall-of-blood-17/

Good call, it works out well.

Yeah :(
"won't happen but I can dream"

So, when is your birthday?
I could get you a magical genie to grant you the wish!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY - GENIES!

I'm glad you like it! I'm not big into standard, but with a little tweaking you could adjust this deck to be. If you do, link it to me and I'll let you know what I think.

Counterspell and Lightning Bolt released like 25ish years before Wall of Blood. I'm not sure how strong your win condition would be with a $13 control deck in general. It would beat this deck for sure though!

the point of decks like this is that they are so fast that it's almost like a coin toss, 50% of the time u kill them in under 5 turns, and 40% of the time u draw shit and get owned, the last 10% u manage to hold out long enough to pop off at the last second

i did a black-artifact storm deck that got turn 1 kills about 1/7
once got a chain going so hard on the first turn that i ran through my whole deck 3 times and sucked out enough life with Tendrils of Agony to have killed over a dozen people. the deck sure as fuck ain't lagacy legal, but that doesn't matter for my play goup. It's meant for 8+ player games of re-spawn magic

I love tendrils AND 4+ player matches; you're alright by me!

The turn 1 ending is almost impossible (but possible). I'm glad you like it! Enjoy

there's a 4 card combo to kill ur opponent on his 1st upkeep, if u go 2nd
-Gemstone Cavern comes into play with a luck counter, tap it for Blue
-exile either Elvish Spirit Guide or Simian Spirit Guide from ur hand for another mana
-then play Flash to put Protean Hulk into play, but u don't have the extra mana to keep him, he dies and his ability triggers
-now u simply have to fetch enough cards to kill them, with 4 copies of Disciple of the Vault, and as many X cost artifact-creatures as u can find, then bam! the Xcost creatures die and trigger the Disciples' abilities, and they lose 4x life for each dying artifact-creature, u only need 5 copies of either Phyrexian Marauder or Shifting Wall (6 copies if a Disciple was already in ur hand)
actually was scarily viable as a deck, a bit of a novelty though

Flash/Protean Hulk decks are usually built for serious encounters, such as a deck that could throw down Force of Will on the said upkeep to prevent you from flashing.

I personally only build decks that out everything on the chance of getting the combo off when they don't cost very much to put together. When spending money it's a personal preference to have more versatility and card options; this kind of deck has so little design options :(

x4: gemstone caverns, elvish spirit guide, flash, protean hulk, disciple of the void, phyrexian marauder, shifting wall, and lotus petal (not mentioned but likely in the deck) leaves you with 36 card slots already chosen for you and hinging on nothing getting in the way. I designed (with some friendly help) a similar deck to this one (costs more but has a little more resilience) I think you'll know what I mean by all of this if you look over how the cards work together. Link:

http://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/legacy-blood-fling-br/

street wraith, for free cycling. and the lotus petal's are not needed really u wanna kill someone before u get a mainphase, yeah it could be useful if the games lasts a couple of turns, but it wasn't in the deck i saw, i wish i could remember all of it

That is a nice addition. The only concern I would have is drawing it. It's great in the opening hand, no question about that, but if drawn it's basically a blank card. I'll put it on the side board for now. Thanks a ton for the great advice!

Don't face a counter deck if you use this vs your friends lol.

That's a given

if you do, run 4 summoning trap

Yeah it would make a good sideboard card if you tried a tournament.

<3 Thanks a ton!

With some tinkering, it could be worked in, but you are also right about the budget. Thanks for the comment though!

no problem(:

Essence Harvest and Rite of Consumption work in place of fling. I do have a red and black deck like this, if you are interested: http://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/legacy-blood-fling-br/

Most likely just a search engine for the Wall as well as Essence Harvest.

Correct, it's simply a cheap search. 3cmc with no downside, and it can't be countered as a small bonus.

Transmute can be countered?

I think he was saying that transmute ability can't be countered, as opposed to say, another search like fabricate

I did not know that. It seems to be a spell, So i assumed it could be countered.
Is it because it says to Discard the card, is that why you can't counter it?

Yeah, can't be countered like a normal spell because it is an ability, and you are not actually casting a spell. :)
Now if you play the spell normally, then it CAN be countered. :)

So, a sorcery has abilities?
Really...sometimes Magic is so confusing to me!

I love this deck, regardless!
And I run Transmute cards in some of my decks, nice to see/know that they can't be countered.

umm... there are a few sorceries and instants that have abilities. anything with Channel, reinforce, transmute... and a few others, are abilities of the cards they are on. regardless of the type of card it is. whether it is a permanent or not. :) makes certain cards a TON more useful.

Who knew?!
Okay then...but what about cards, blue ones, that particularly counter abilities?
Something like Stifle.
Voidslime

Yes, those would counter it, but very few people run those in casual. And as far as I am aware those would probably be sideboard cards in a more competitive format, unless they were running stifle as part of a combo. Like a phyrexian dreadnought deck.

It is great news! I love when I learn a new rule.
Thanks spudshaver!

The easiest way to think about it would be: comparing it to cycling a card. You're simply searching instead. I'm glad you guys had a helpful dialog! It's always nice when there is more than just deck talk :)

agreed. :) it is nice to have conversation.

It is one of my favorite on here. That is for sure.

Having played around with it some, I've personally found having both sac-able 1-drops is nice. The larger problem than protecting the wall is usually keeping a life advantage. Sacing a 1-drop after blocking helps things along quite well. If you wanted to rotate in Duress (which fits in well), I'd recommend looking at Bump in the Night first, and possibly Apostle's Blessing.

I personally have never played Magic with winning as my only or main priority; challenge yourself. I've played a handful of versions of this deck and it is very easy to edit to fit you or your play group better. I can't wait to hear how it goes!

I will probably add 3 or 4 Pact of Negation for when I try to pull off my win...that way if they counter/lightning bolt/etc Wall of Blood, I can cast the Pact of Negation and still win. Besides that, it will stay as is.

No lie, this is the first and only deck I have bought that someone else made on this site.
All the cards, besides 4 Dimir Machinations (they are out of stock), are coming in the mail and should be here in a few days or so.

And If I were going to take it away from budget I would also consider adding Pact of Negation. Use it to counterspell your opponent's spell, when you sack Wall of Blood. Also, as you suggested, discard cards would be nice as well.

Heheheh. 2-3 inquisitions = 1 pact of negation in terms of $$$. But yeah. Good enough...better make sure you win though hahahah. unless you want to splash blue for dimir...

I think duress is a fine idea. I think it falls into a preference for how you want to play the deck, but it fits quite well.

That is VERY true, especially since you have apostle's blessing for protection...

As stated, I am building the deck.
I just need the Dimir Machinations.
What would you guys reduce to 3 copies...in order to add in Duress (which I already have 4)?

bump in the night?

Would you only run 2 bump in the night and add in 2 duress?
Or would you take out bump in the night completely?

you could out bump entirely if you decided to race less and protect more

yaeh, if you REEAAAALLY like Bump, you could run two, and two duress. I personally really dislike Bump simply because its flashback cost is so absurdly high, but its normal CMC is good for 3 life. So I would drop it for 4 duress. but that is just me. if it makes the deck faster then run two.

I will try 4 Duress without Bump.
And will try 4 Bump, without Duress.

I think the biggest problem with this deck (I love it by the way, as I have said, I actually ordered this deck) is keeping the lead with life total.

It isn't going to do you crap if your opponent has 15 life and you have 14 life. You can't win by sacking 14 life to do 14 to your opponent. You need more life than your opponent. Plain and simple.

If they have disruption...you probably aren't going to win anyways. 1 single counterspell or lighting bolt or geth's verdict will lose you the game.

So I think ultimately this deck is very dependent on life. And 3 life for 1 mana is great.
Sort of damn if you do and damned if you don't.
If you don't add Duress you can't make your opponent discard his Lighting Bolt (which he will cast on Wall of Blood and you will lose the game) but if you don't keep Bump in the Night, and your opponent has more life than you, you can't win.

helpful cards: Suffer The Past. XB to play, exile X cards from target player's graveyard, you gain X life and target player loses X life.
Piranha Marsh

Ok, last ditch card: kaervek's spite. BBB sacrifice everything, and discard everything, target player loses 5 life.

just in case. :)

Definitely need to trade in more cards for store credit. :)