White Flame

It depends. Cause vexing devil is only good on turn 1 or 2. Where as another burn spell in it's place will always be relevant throughout the game. So I didn't throw it in cause of that reason. Plus my burn spells get life gain buffs too.

Thanks mate! :)

Why? It's not like this is the grim lavamancer build.

Because she runs fetches in every deck she has ever made. :)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

It's because with only 4 fetches it's very easy for you to only have red mana in your early turns. It also enables Landfall on your opponent's turn for Searing Blaze, which is extremely important.

Well you can get that but only 4 is needed.

....You're wrong. In every multicolor deck in every format, people run more than 4 fetches.

Correct. But it's not necessary. Honestly the deck thinning is so minuscule that it barely raises the chances of drawing a nonland card. I'd rather have that 1 life over thinning one mountain.

Okay, compromise. I'll add more fetches so I can splash blue for a treasure cruise.

Why not two cruise? :3 Honestly I've been having a lot of success in my modern burn list running two cruises, maybe you could drop a browbeat for another cruise?

well I'd like it to stay at one as a goodie card. It's not overused, just there for a goodie feeling. I would normally do 2 but this is got more heavy white than a normal boros burn deck. SOWWY.

It's not for thinning, it's for having all of your colors. I drew several opening hands with the older deck and found myself with several Lightning Helix/Boros Charms in hand with only mountains.

Fetches can be nice, but they can also be spendy. Only reason I dont have them in all my decks is because they are too hard for me to afford. :(

Well if you don't want to run scalding tarns for splash of blue, you can definitely run wooded foothills now! They are really cheap at $11 dollars each :)

11$ for a card. T.T

Better than 55 for Tarns .-.

Honestly I think cruise can still be a three of and work just fine, I've been running a similar list for a few weeks now and can consistently run out my sideboard kor firewalkers and cast my cruises in the same game with little trouble (minus losing lots of life). While fetches are expensive for some, they are absolutely necessary in this type of deck that wants to be able to consistently run out red, white and blue spells, so the cost is worth it in my opinion.

True and true. I just like the magic 1 of that's all. And just run Mono Green Infect or RDW for the most budget decks in modern rn.

Honestly I have been considering making mono green or green blue infect in modern, but only if noble hierarch gets a reprint. X3 RDW isn't even very budget anymore, with eidolons getting close to $10, Guides at almost $20 and Swiftspears at $10 a playset it doesn't feel very budget to me (though I'm thinking straight competitively), plus the burn spells that are necessary for the deck to work are going above $1 a piece for the most part. I just don't think a good RDW list can even be considered budget anymore.

You don't even need noble heirarch. And RDW is still budget, it's a burn deck so you can use crappier spells or creatures if necessary. You can still win some good games with a bad burn deck :p

I don't really need heirarch, you're right but he makes the deck just a little better, making it easier to get infect in while not using up spells to do so. I dunno I guess that depends on your definition of budget, when I think budget in modern I think maybe $50 tops. Don't see burn being able to be reliably good without using the spells that are good, but I could be wrong, sometimes going against the system can be a good thing. Dunno if that's reasonable right now, with modern being such a fast format, but I guess that depends on the meta.

I mean for budget you have monastery swiftspears as your goblin guides instead, you run hellspark elementals, spark elementals and Keldon Marauders make up the creature lineup. And the rest is just burn spells that are cheap and effective. Here's a budget list that can win turn 3.

http://www.mtgvault.com/splooge/decks/budget-burn-baby-burn/

You can't play a budget deck and expect to do well with it. Those should be limited to the kitchen table.

They shouldn't be limited to a kitchen table. It's a called "not having money but still want to play in some fnm tournaments." You can play budget burn and expect to win a few games, I'm not saying all I'm just saying a few.

Except you really can't expect to win any games at all when your deck is strictly worse than every other deck.

Unfortunately money buys you wins in Magic.
Sad but true.

...You're an idiot, Jessie.

Good cards are good cards, of course they're going to help you win. Fortunately, since everyone who wants to win invests about the same amount of money (thus an equal playing field) it boils down to skill.

It boils down to how much money you have.
If you have a lot of money you can be on an equal playing field.
If you do not have a lot of money you lose.
Sad but true, rather or not you think I am an idiot.

Almost every one of your decks are over 1,000 dollars...for a damned card game...I would think that would make you an idiot.
The fact that I can have fun with a 20 dollar deck while you can not unless you pay 1,000 dollars FOR ONE DECK, suggests that you are an uber idiot.
1,000 dollars has nothing to do with skill. It has to do with having a lot of money.
Period.

People that actually go to tournaments trying to make a viable living (enough money to support their family) ON A CARD GAME, are idiots.
Magic The Gathering is a card game. Not a livelihood!
Richard Garfield, the creator of Magic the Gathering sold the company when people started getting that freaking serious about cards! He wanted to play a simple card game. He didn't want to be responsible for people making careers out of it.
I am guessing he is an idiot.
When asked if he played Mtg more than other card games, he said, "No." Because it wasn't fun anymore. I wonder why. Because of people like you, I imagine.

"Except you really can't expect to win any games at all when your deck is strictly worse than every other deck."
You meant to write, "Except you really can't expect to win any games at all when your deck isn't very expensive."

It is your crappy Elitist attitude that represents everything wrong with Mtg.
Same Elitist attitude that has French people going to fight for the Islamic State of Iraq.
"I wanted to be a Jihadist until I went over to Iraq and my IPhone ran out of battery and I have no internet, and I didn't know it was going to be this hot in a desert! Can I come back home and not be prosecuted or put in jail for being a trader to France?!" Actually heard that in the news last month in the USA, dumb French people!
LMAO

I had a friend, from highschool, that traveled abroad.
He once told me, both in France and in Canada...the most arrogant cocky people in the entire world was French or French Canadian. I guess that is because all of them can afford 1,000 dollars for a card game.
LMAO

You have 60 decks, Phyrexian Possum
Some are over 3,000 dollars and some are 300 dollars.
Let me take the average and say each of your decks are 1,000 dollars each.
That means you have spent/plan on spending 60,000 thousand dollars on a card game.
And yet I am the idiot?
Seriously? 60,000 thousand dollars?!

You fucktard, I don't buy every deck I brew on here. Do you? I just use this site as a tool to help me think of ideas and tweak old ones.

About money- I never sad you can't have fun with your $20 kitchen table budget deck. I said you can't expect to take a deck that is *strictly subpar* to a tournament and expect to do well with it. Sure, you have to invest- but it's like that with every game. Once everyone accepts that you do have to spend some money to compete, then it's all skill.

Fucktard and an idiot...you are truly a woman after my heart.

Fuck you! Just cause you're afraid to spend money doesn't mean everyone else should play budget decks.

I agree.
Sorry I got you aggravated.
Sorry.

Just gotta say that Possum is aggressive, jeez. Calm down guys. Budget decks are fun and can potentially net wins. Thats all we needed to know, so no more arguing or you're going to time out guys!

I love to get her aggravated. But I took it over the line. Sorry Possum and Splooge. She is aggressive but I imagine she is also a great player. Honestly I am extremely poor and it bothers me when she is always suggesting, to people, cards that cost so much money. It is more madness of my financial woes and jealous that she has the money to buy the cards.

Dayum, this deck comment section went downhill fast... XD Also I tend to have the same mentality that you most of the time need to shell out a lot of money to make a deck good, while I don't really like it there are some card choices that are just better than others. This is why Netdecking is a legitimate strategy, because you can see what is doing well in the meta currently, and make deck choices based on what is doing better at the time. I used to get a lot of shit from my friends because I was "too competitive" and I was a "try hard", this doesn't mean you can't have fun playing a deck that isn't "sub-optimal", it just means that you may just have a different style of play than others. While I do spend a lot of money on my decks, I tend to do it because I like winning my matches instead of scratching my head and always thinking about how my cards seem absolutely terrible in comparison to other cards that are more expensive but maybe not as good. This is just me though, it does still irritate me when someone bashes on another persons idea (this didn't seem like what was going on here) instead of just trying to help them. Helping other players is something I take pride in, mainly players who are just younger or not as experienced, and I think that's what we all look to do as magic players; help those who aren't as "good" at the game as us in order to make our beloved game live on. There, rant over. X3

Also how has browbeat been in your deck? I always found that the card did exactly what I didn't want it to when I cast it because of the choice by the opponent, same with Vexing Devil.

Smart players usually pay the 5 or 4 life, with Browbeat and Devil.

However, with Soulfire Grand Master...if you play Browbeat they will let you gain 5 life and take 5 damage if they don't let you draw the card. That is a 10 point life difference. So, they will actually let you draw the 3 cards! Go Soulfire!

Right, but I have usually found that they don't do what I want, like let me draw cards because they can just counter the other spells I draw or have removal for the devil. Soulfire may actually swing that, and could actually make a deck on her own because of being able to make such large life point swings! I like that idea... Off to brewing! XD

Well if you are the burn deck you don't think about it too much. If it dies it dies. You keep throwing spells out there. Cause if they used the mana to kill it, they didn't leave enough open to counter you hand full of burn.

Right on, Splooge.

Splooge knows how to pilot a burn deck, that's for sure! :D