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Yes, yes. Perfectly powerful modern mono-black.If you recuire any cards to add, I would had some:-Tendrils of Corruption-Sanguimancy(?)-Excuisite Blood-Also Grasp of Darkness and Disfigure are powerful kill-spells.Otherwise, as I already said, this looks amazing!Definitely worth of like!
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After play testing, i dismantled grixis with bob 2-0, i beat a 2x FNM gruul winning modern deck, but i went 1-2 against a white token deck, so if i were to add sideboard it would be like bile blight? Pitching needle etc? what would you recommend for sideboard?
I have a modern mono black deck that relies on creatures entering the battlefield too! It's not near as thought out as yours (threw it together in under an hour while bored one afternoon). Also, mine was very much a budget deck. Having said that, one card that made it worth it's weight in gold was skull collector. He's a 1-cheaper black version of roaring primadox. Added in fleshbag marauder and cadaver imp, and I had a great sac engine that left them completely empty. Don't know if that's a direction you'd like to take it, but I found it to be a lot of fun!
Skull collector would work wonders with Grey Merchant aka Gary, but im not sure what i would take out is the only problem...
You wouldn't need as many geth's verdict, since gatekeeper would be managing creature control.
Your right, im gonna play test skull collector ill sub 2 verdict for 2 of them and see how it plays out what do you think of that switch?
I think that's perfect!
Thanks for the advice:), only problem i see this deck having is against tokens, but i can sideboard bile blight to deal with them, and surprisingly duress + extirpate is very good against tokens decks
Still working on sideboard...if you have any suggestions please feel free to let me know!
Drown in Sorrow is a great card for even more mass control. Also, Skinrender can also be a great spot removal card that can also act as a blocker/attacker afterwards. Other possibilities are hero's downfall (for planeswalker removal) and Dark Ritual (for mana ramp).
dark ritual is legacy legal, otherwise i would add it in, but i agree with everything else
Also I would consider Desecration Demon over the Wurm as its only 4cmc...Check my MBC at http://www.mtgvault.com/hann/decks/mbc/
I agree with you completely but imo i think the majestic Wurm has alot of advantages over tokens etc, ik it costs 6 and it may not be as a powerful of swinger as DD but it does work wonders, + its like 8$ cheaper
Add more swamps, maybe 2 or 3. You have a lot of high cmc spells.
after play testing it over..30 times online, mana is not really a problem and if it is, gatekeeper + geth's + dismember and extirpate stall me time for obliterator etc
I just did some more sample hands... and they were all with perfect mana. Completely unlike when I tried 2 hours ago... when they never had enough mana. o.O
if you want go to tappedout.net look up my name on their crazybop09 its easier to playtest on there
Good advice... this shuffler can be a bit "off" sometimes ;)
yeah haha :p
Yea I have the feeling ample hands on here are worst case scenarios
Maybe Sheoldred? I saw the deck name and was surprised not to see her.
Hahah yeah as much as i love her, for a 7 drop idk how i would see her fitting in well=/.
Is this deck strictly Modern?
Yes i plan on trying it out at FNM after playtesting its done spectacular
You have little ramp so I'd cut lashwrithe since it's unlikley to give more than +5. You need equipments for some reason, go classic: batterskull, though I'd not recommend any more high drops. Except Phyrexian Obliterator. Allways 4 phyrexian obliterators. Also cut 1 whip unless you get a lot more ETB. Geralf's Messenger is awe inspiring and I'd run 4. As with spudface's deck, Erebos. You can reliably trigger his devotion and hit or block with a 5\7 indestructable. If you really want to run the higher drops you NEED ramp. If you go that route here's a few cards: cabal coffers, Lilliana of the Dark Realms (her +1 is worth it if you can use it twice. No need to care for her ult) and of course, crypt ghast. Finisher: Corrupt.You might also want to run doomblade over Geth's Verdict.I can probably give more input later on but for now that's all I have time for, your deck is allready good though, but I wouldn't bring it to something bigger than FNM.
Thank you for the comment, now after play testing against modern decks in the upper range of 800$+ this has held its own and won most of the time, lashwrithe is very good especially on either obliterator, or nighthawk ive won games because of it. Once i start working again after this semester i will defintley get 2 more obliterators, I can agree with cutting 1 whip and adding 1 more gerafl's because of the devotion etc. And Geth's verdict i favor more than doomblade because it beats indestructible, protection from black etc, only problem i had play testing was against tokens but extirpate + duress work wonders getting their token providers out of their deck or PTE, for a deck worth maybe 8x less then a good modern deck i have yet to run into any troubles against what i think to be top tier modern decks that ive play tested against, i was thinking of running one Erebos but i just might increase sign in blood to 3.Thank you for your comment and your insight i appreciate the time you took to type that :)
The reason I advised geralf's messenger is that the card itself is good. The reason I advised against geth's verdict is that it looses against aggro every time. If you want devotion then run underworld connections over sign in blood. And if you want my advise you really shouldn't catagorically oppose all advise I choose to give. Your biggest problem is that your deck is somewhat slow, which gives blue time to get counterspell mana, red time to dump its hand and redraw, green time to ramp and white time to control not to speak of black ramp or pure controll, or even black aggro. I do however recognize that its often hard to get ones mind around changing out favourite cards but at least take this peace of advise. Swords over lashwrite if you want it on the obliterator or nighthawk. Swords of War & Peace, Feast & Famine, etc. Prot 2 colours and even if you do not meet those colours many of them are good by themselves. Untapping your lands to throw a second spell lets you equip it for free, or throw an obliterator + a messanger in 1 turn, card draw + burn out weenies, mill so they can't access their cards and so forth. Just think of your curve. And I'd be happy to prove these points to you in a number of online matches. Again, good luck.
I agree with you 100%, underworld is better than sign, the swords are better than lash (even though lash is underrated) and after play testing about 50 times.. the cards that save me are extirpate, if i can duress/despise turn 1 and turn 2 get rid of something crucial like pod or whatever than i control the game, the whole problem ive had so far is against white weenies but after adding bile blight that takes care of them, and if i can survive till turn 6-7 then i get our massacre wurm and they take a huge chunk of their life with his ability. When i win, its usually around turn 6-8. I realize geth's verdict is not strong against a speed aggro deck because they sac a 1/1 that they dont need, but i think it is needed in this maybe i could sideboard it but it still works wonders against protections, indestructibles, etc. Once i start working out of college again i plan on buying a play set of underworld and the swords, but as of now with the money on hand that i have, this is my price range, again i thank you for the comment :)
Needs more Obliterators since the name you choose or title refers to his flavor text. I would definatly run 4 Obliterator any day!!!
Yeah once i get the $ to afford them i defintley will, as of now college kicks my ass money wise.. : (
The card is good by itself but if you want a strong deck, don't take advise that comes in the form of "flavour". Just sayin.
The card is a strong card and is worth its own price, Obliterator is 4 cmc, trample, 5/5 and damage that is done to him that sources controler sacks that many permenants. Obliterator is great on offense and defense. I umderstand a budget constraint, just was making a suggestion to inhance the deck and make it stronger! Keep your head up Soldier333 and I hope college goes well for you! Btw what are you taking up in school?
I go to Mercyhurst University in PA, i am a history major and a walk on for the basketball team next year, magic is my nerdy side that everyone has;P
History Major wow, that has to be fun!! I am currently enrolled at University of Florida for a Masters Degree in Busimess Administration with a Concentration in Hospitality and Restaurant Management. I work in the E.R as a Certified Medical Assistant, so I can completely understand budget constraints. I recently ordered 4 of each Misty's amd Tarn's and within a month's time they doubled in price, I paid like $45 per one in mint condition and had saved for some time to get them but a month after I got them they spiked. I say good luck to you with college and I hope to see you on the History Channel some time in the future.
A funny combo I have used with Phyrexian Oblitrrator is Tainted Strike, because nobody blocks him that was 6 infect to the face. I also would recomend utilizing Phyrexian Crusader, dodges Bolt and Path, two common forms of removal. Good Luck!
Thanks and lucky ass in Florida...it snows everyday where i go >.<. almost went down there for spring break but decided to spend time with family. And yeah id like to teach and coach basketball someday. But tained strike + PO would be nice i just dont know what id take out, and your right i might have to sideboard 2 Crusaders
Yes Florida is nice and that is a huge plus! Also I would SB Extripate MB 3-4 Tainted Strike and then drop Nighthawk for the Crusader!
Hmm interesting suggestions, but Extirpate is very underrated, during the millions of playtests ive done it has saved me games because of it, same with the nighthawk due to its flying and making be able to stay out of their lethal zone. But i will play test with crusader :) thanks again :)
NP, Have a great day!!
Thought seize over durress
Yeah i agree 100% just need a bit more money before i can afford a play set of them. thanks for the suggestion though
Np I understand have a Budget too :(
Yeah but after playtesting i never really lose, if i were to get 2 more obliterators and thoughtseize id take it to a decent tournie and see how i do
Would you mind if I bought this deck it looks awesome
i did, go for it:) ive play tested it and i usually win turn 6-7
Btw i was thinking of taking the whip out, but realized ive won games play testing by sac'ing my own gary and bringing him back for lethal. :)
Yea whip is awesome espeshly with the lifelink
Yeah i think this obviously could be improved if i had more $ to spend, but as of now it holds up very well.
You've got room in your sideboard, it's cheap and nasty, you may consider conjurer's closet. Gary twice in one turn, plus you keep him out to do it again? Worm 'em twice? Eh?
Conjurer's Closet is very nice... and i do have a copy. ill add it in :)
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So thinking about adding bloodline keeper in for massacure wurm, any thoughts?
No bloodline don't do much for your deck but if you wanna replace wurm I would choose Dd instead of bloodline
what is dd?
Desecration demon
ah, bad with acronyms ;p. But as much as i love DD, its 10$ for each of them, if your going up against a token deck no1 will have a problem keeping him tapped, bloodline on the other hand supplys chump blockers, and once transformed is usually a big ko.
Yea I know dd Is expensive and token decks deal with it easily but still I do not think bloodline keeper fits this deck if I though when I get enough money to buy this deck though I'm gonna stick with the wines or put dd in
I mean i love the wurm, but a 6MC is risky, bloodline keeper with 4 drop is not bad considering every turn ill get a 2/2 vampire, who will later become 4/4 with flying...
Ok play test it a bit and see what's better I guess also you can get dd for 8$
Been play testing for a while, once i get bloodline out and they dont have an answer..its game over. I think i might purchase 2 of them
Ah just noticed the flip ability where vampires get +2+2 I'm a idiot :)
yeah:P its okay haha
As I can see, you have sideboarded Massacre Wurm. Bloodline Keeper is awesome, but remember to switch into Massacre Wurm when facing token decks.You made good decision.
Yeah i think Bloodline overall is better, but Wurm for tokens etc :)
Edits: -1 Extirpate, +1 Sign in bloodSideboard 2 Wurm, +2 Bloodline Keeper Mainboard Added 2 Victim of Night instead of Go for the Throat, if that doesnt work i will move back the go for throats.
Why is skull collector in the sideboard?
for a bounce back for gary
plague wind?
for a board wipe that cost 9MC i believe? not worth it=/. Good suggestion though :)
Damnation or killing wave, then?
I think i have enough removal, plus i run a creature heavy deck so idk if a board wipe would be worth it=/
Added in Arena and -1 duress, arena + obliterator = nasty