Orzhov Humans

TBH, completely forgot about them... yes, yes they do

i feel like the number of decks muta does not work in is vastly shorter than those it compliments

I think it'd work, but this is more or less a human tribal.

Duress and thoughtseize fit better in this deck.

SB elixir.

Although I do love brain maggot and want to put it in every black deck much like thoughtseize, it isn't exactly what this deck wants. It's just not aggressive, which is what that deck wants to be. Possibly in the side... and i don't see what elixir accomplishes.

understood. but it would force ur opponent to use a removal spell on brain maggot//

I actually agree with brain maggot instead of Thoughtseize mainboard for the same reason I agree with your sideboard of Lifebane Zombie and Sin Collector instead of Duress: they are creatures and raise the devotion count, both things being relevant for Athreos.

Can I ask why you play with 3 Athreos instead of 4? Legendary rule? Because I feel this deck underperforms without Athreos on the battlefield and really needs it to come up as often as possible so I would start by playing 4.

It's a legendary that's indestructible, so it won't die as often as others. Plus deicide is around in any sideboard that's got access to white.

Again, what Mr Pendulum said and also he's not as easy to devote as say, Thassa is in mono blue, so he's not always going to bring board presence. Which this deck really wants to hit on turn 3. Thoughtseize is just a better card then brain maggot, it's cheaper and they don't get the opportunity to get their card back.

Why do poeple think he's so great. His ability only triggers if he's dealt damage, so any destroy, sacrifice or exile spell (like most of the ones being played right now) just negates it.

I agree with Mr Pendulum, the amount of non damage removal is pretty high right now so i don't see him doing much against most decks except very creature heavy decks and red decks. He's also very much a defensive creature and this is an aggressive deck.

When you have Athreos on board, you have one of three scenarios: "waste" removal on the High Priest, let him go unblocked when swinging, or kill it and set off the trigger. Unless it's exiled, Athreos will trigger. With a Xathrid Necromancer, this is a super annoying thing to deal with. If the High Priest only killed creatures it would be whatever, but it gets any nonland permanent, which is actually pretty helpful.

Pharika's Cure it if you have to.

Thanks! I thought about putting God's willing in the side but wasn't even sure when i would side it in (maybe against mono black?) I think thoughtseize is overall a better card so it definitely gets the maindeck include. Definitely want Aristocrat but like i said i don't know what to take out and since adding mutavault she's a little hard to cast on turn 2.

Super huge second to High Priest of Penance, probably in place of the Gnarled Scarhide.

Immortal servitude might be useful.

Hmmm i don't like adding blue to the deck, Lyev Skynight is a good card but not worth splashing blue for alone and Verdict seems counter productive even with all the creature recursion. I may or may not have too much love for gnarled scarhide but he's such a damn good one drop with versatility later on. My only qualm with running a bunch of Cartel Aristocrat's is the ability to cast her on turn 2 with the recent addition of mutavaults (maybe 4 is too many?) This is the same reason i put daring skyjeck in place of Precinct captain. I do agree that she should be somewhere in the main deck though.

I feel you on the mana issues. And it's true that you do need the Mutavaults, they're completely necessary. I don't know about 4 though. I have a deck like this that I built like the minute I saw Athreos and I have been very conflicted on the 2 drop slot too. I think right now I have 4 Aristocrats, 4 Captains, and 2 Sovereigns. This means I put myself in a position where I have some trouble casting my 2 drops and I've forsaken the Daring Skyjek completely. It's not ideal, and I have no idea what the correct mix of those drops is. But on intuition I would say that you don't need 4 Sovereigns, Mutavaults, or Orzhov Charms.

Maybe you could try like 2 Sovereigns, 4 Aristocrats, 3 Charms, and 3 Skyjeks? Really the one that has performed the best for me has been Aristocrat (although against something like Jund what I really want is 6 copies of Sovereign). I think it might be safe to give up on Precinct Captain unless we decide to focus on white and put in some Spears of Heliod. I would also swap one Mutavault for a Plains, because drawing multiple Mutavaults is miserable.

I am sure this deck will appear on the Grand Prix circuit after the Pro Tour, so I will be watching with curiosity to see what the "correct" numbers are.

My thought is that aristocrat doesn't do much in this deck on it's own, i originally had precinct captain and that gave extra sac outlets for her, but now that the mana is wacky i took the captains out and therefore feel she's lost some usefullness. I think i'll take out a copy of gnarled scarhide and sovereign for 2 artisocrats for now and only play 3 mutavaults. If i feel aristocrat is exceptionally good in the new meta, i'll go ahead and cut a skyjek for another one. As for orzhov charm, i want all the removal i can get, however maybe it's correct to play 3 and one hero's downfall/banishing light

Sort of disagreed on the high priest, since it's "nonland permanent" not just creature. The only tricky part is how to deal damage to it when your opponent has no creatures on deck.

Definitely not bad for sideboard. Good catch. But Skyjek is a very powerful form of evasion, and has 3 power to boot... it makes more sense to put Spirit in the sideboard and then switch it in instead of the Imposing Sovereigns for control matchups

Spirit of the Labryinth doesn't fit the human theme here, and most decks that like to draw cards will most likely have to answer it before they take their time durdling to draw cards anyway.

it doesnt seem like the human theme really matters to me... id agree with kmk888 in placing it on the SB. flying is certainly nice

foochow: than you've never played with Necromancer. That card is insane.

You called it lol. Clearly i have not seen it in play or i would have caught that. Ty

Not a huge fan of Boros Elite and am a huge fan of Gnarled Scarhide (maybe too much of a fan :P) Though i usually have troubles activating Boros Elites ability til turn 4, which is too slow for what i want my one drops to be.

Thanks! :)

Read the above comments.

I'm to lazy

Non damage removal is heavy in the current meta, so High Priest's ability is all but useful.

Thank you sir((: i had my friend play my deck with 4 of him main against a fully built G/W Deck one high priest stopped him from attacking with his 20/20 becasue he had an Ajani, MoH out so i find him useful especialy with Athreos but maybe its only me.. Sad face

So it stalls the game knuntil they hit a banishing light, which won't take long if they're playing the new enchantress. I can't think of a deck that's being played that doesn't have non damage removal (even red is splashing white for exile effects).

Its not like everyone has a Banishing Light in there hand at all times sir.. but no he didn't exile him FYI..

Keening apparation is a consideration, especially for the sideboard

pharika's cure is for vs the other aggro decks, esp mono white aggro since i will be shocking and thoughtseizing (to be fair thoughtseize probably comes out against aggro) to lose life while they will not. I don't want to lose a race vs aggro decks and it also helps a lot if i have to be on the draw vs these decks. I'm not too worried about the amount of removal, most big creature decks i'll side in the extra banisher priest and possibly the devour fleshes.

There's not a whole lot of 3 toughness creatures that i'm worried about, and Pharika's cure is guaranteed to net me 2 life against aggro decks while blight will sometimes be a 2 for 1 but not always.

Um blight prevents 3 damage though and has the chance of getting 2 1

but it can never gain life, which against a deck such as White Weenie is what i want to do

pharika's can be done on high priest of penance to destroy something on the other side while gaining 2 life.

They're soldier tokens not humans, unfortunately it won't work.

They are too.
Wrong planeswalker ability. I could have sworn they were humans

Sorry but elspeth has always made soldiers.

1/1 white soldier creature token.

not a relevant enough creature on it's own

Sorry that 's meanto to be
http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/dont-pay-the-ferryman/
stupid typos

Lol.

If you plan to run Master of the Feast then you should also be running Fate Unraveler OR even better notion thief :) Their upside becomes your upside! AND you get to keep your 5/5 flyer.

I hadn't thought of doing that. Sounds fun.

if i were running master of the feast this would be a completely different deck, but i really wanted to capitalize on necromancer and athreos for creature recursion. I'm not losing too much by playing tribal since most of the good aggressive w/b creatures are humans. Charm is a kill spell and taking them out completely wouldn't give me many answers to big creatures or things such as master of waves. With the addition of mutivault aristocrat is a little difficult to cast on turn 2 which is why i didn't go with the full 4 copies

Hero's Downfall will help where the Charm fails
Also, I have a deck for Master of the Feast:
http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/devotion-to-discard/

The finisher is all the small creatures, it's an aggro deck so it's looking to smash face quickly, doesn't need 5 drops that i probably won't find the mana to cast. The minotaur is a 2/1 for 1 that can be bestowed later on. The problem with turn 1 thoughtseize turn 2 brain maggot is that i'm not doing any damage, if i were looking to disrupt my opponent til i got stuff going that would be a great plan but that's not what this deck wants to do. I do have another B/W list that does want to do that if you want to give that a look. Tormented hero isn't in there for heroic but again because he's a 2/1 for 1 that's also a human. I'll give your deck a look