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A pauper deck that is all about fungus and saplings tokens. Either going wide or sacking tokens to make a big attacker.-------------------------------------------------------------------let me explain each card in the main deck:Thallid: the main fungus card which generates saplings tokens.Essence Warden: With all the tokens we are creating Essence warden will create a good amount of like which will help the state of the match.Thallid Shell-Dweller: A defender with decent toughness that generates saplings tokens.Pallid Mycoderm: The sac outlet, can make itself/other creatures big and save them from a potential board wipe or just to pump up creatures that are not being blocked and sacrificing the ones that were.Sporoloth Ancient: Speeds up the token generation and has a nice body.Fists of Ironwood: A great spell to get two sapling tokens and giving a creature trample which is very helpful when there are blockers present.Druid's Deliverance: A two mana Fog which more importantly makes one more token Echoing Courage: The go to spell when attacking wide either giving +2/+2 to all Fungus or Sapling Tokens.Might of the Masses: When you want one creature to be big and do some serious damage.Scatter the Seeds: Creating three saplings tokens for as low as two mana either way it's a good way to get a good amount of tokens Scion of the Wild: with all the tokens getting created it can get quite big and finish the game off with something like Might of the Masses.Selesnya Evangel: creates tokens for the early game/ is a good way to use mana when there is nothing to do.Quicksand: for that Looming threat.Evolving Wilds: to search out the lands you need.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Tell me what you think , what could be added/removed and does this deck need more interaction?
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Khalni Garden doesn't really add to your gameplan. A Plant token and a Saproling token are two different creature types. ie: you can't sacrifice the Plant to Thallid Germinator. Take Bow of Nylea out of your description, it's not in the deck. Sprout Swarm is your new favourite card. Remember, Convoke lets you tap green creatures to pay for the green mana part of a card, and Saprolings are green. You can also Convoke using creatures with summoning sickness, and as you can Convoke to pay for Sprout Swarm's Buyback, you can tap the previous casting's Saproling.
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what should I take out for Sprout swarm?
This is close to how I would make a Fungus deck in Pauper:http://www.mtgvault.com/dedwards/decks/fungal-spores/
Hmm tempting to make it white I could even add Selesnya Evangel which seems good.
The Evangel is good, steady, 1 Saproling a turn. I use it in my Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond deck that's geared towards abusing Sprout Swarm.
Love thallids! Love saprolings! These are easily my favorite creature type. You should try replacing thallid germinator with thelon of have wood. Its not quite the same, but the buff is permanent! Also try replacing siege wurm with sporoloth ancient. And if you do that, sporesower thallid is a must. And for flyers, what about gravity well? Or raking canopy? Or both? Dragon gets gutted by branches before collapsing on the forest floor, only to be finished off by the little root creatures that live there. Mwahahahaha!
Thanks for the feedback, Thelon of Havenwood looks quite good but it's a rare sadly so I can't use it because this deck is for pauper. replaced sporoloth ancient as for sporesower thallid seem quite good for creating tokens more often. Gravity well/raking canopy are uncommon so I cannot use them either. I do want to add sprout swarm I don't know what to remove. is there any common thallids or saprollings that would be better here?
Frog tongue? I get the feeling those birdies are gonna kill you. That's all I had for thallids though, sorry.
Anti flying is a sideboard thing. Personally I'd use Take Down or Plummet to cover this. No need to block a flyer if it's no longer on the battlefield.
Are Scattershot Archer or Hidden Spider not effective enough?
I'm not saying they aren't, I was just listing what I would personally use. If I had to include an anti flying creature, Deadly Recluse is my preference.
Okay I changed the deck to include white any other cards you think would be ab upgrade compared to what I currently have?
Looks much better. You may want to include a set of Evolving Wilds and maybe a Quicksand or two. Quicksand sitting untapped has prevented many attacks against me, and with Selesnya Evangel's ability; Scatter the Seeds; and Sprout Swarm all being instant speed, you can use Quicksand for mana at the end of the opponent's turn.
Another card Ive been thinking of adding is bloodbair? Would mean I would have to go more sac outlets but could get quite big it and even works with Evolving Wilds. Though I wouldn't know what I would to swap out for it or if it is even need in the deck. Also Rootborn Defenses could work perhaps in a sideboard but I don't know. Growing Ranks makes a token each turn but is four mana but could be good or just bad.
* I think the lack of flyers is a serious problem, serious enough to include anti-flyer cards main deck. My solution would be Spidersilk Armor. The good thing about it is that it also raises the toughness of your army, so it's useful even if your opponent has no flyers, hence rectifying it to be main board.* The Mycoderm is your only sacrifice outlet. Did you consider Savage Thallid? It's not a great card but not bad either. Note that it can regenerate ANY fungus, not just itself, which includes the Mycoderm as well as the Ancient, both of which are crucial for the deck.* Is Druids Deliverance worth it? I mean, the populate will always be just a 1/1 (yet another one I might add). Is that better than running either of these:- Respite- Lull/Angelsong- Dawn Charm- Moment's Peace- Tangle ?* I am not familiar with Pauper meta game. Are artifacts and enchantments an issue? If so, I would play with a few Qasali Pridemages.
Swarm strategies like these tend to grow so fast that they overwhelm most slower decks, making flying not as big a problem. Anti flying is a sideboard thing. I too have a problem with a mainboard Druid's Deliverance. Unless Fog effects are the focus of the deck, like it is in Turbo Fog decks, Fog is a sideboard thing. (FYI, Dawn Charm is my favourite 2 mana Fog)If enchantments are a problem, Sundering Growth is possibly the best option for a token deck. As for Pauper, it's a format that limits you to only commons.
Flying:Well, but if all you are doing is creating 1/1s which die piece by piece every time you attack, your opponent can munch away your life with a random small flyer like Liliana's Specter. Spidersilk Armor puts an end to this AND beefs up your guys.I prefer Qasali Pridemage over Sundering Growth because it's never a dead card. At least in this deck where the populate part of Sundering Growth is limited to 1/1s.Yeah, I know what pauper ist, I am just not familiar with the meta game. In this case I don't know if artifacts/enchantments are even a thing to worry about because artifacts are seldom common and common enchantments are typcially limited to auras.
That's the beauty of Sprout Swarm; Selesnya Evangel; and the Fungi: you spawn them so often, and consistently, that losing a few is almost insignificant. That's why I said Sundering Growth is a sideboard card.
We move in circles here ... I was talking of adding Qasali Pridemage MAINbord IF artifacts/enchantments are a thing in Pauper (and I suppose they aren't so we don't have to argue about this anyway). But if I wanted enchantment/artifact removal in the sideboard, I would pick something better than Sundering Growth. As you said, token production is high enough already, so why not add something like Rending Vines, Krosan Grip or Molder to the sideboard?
Hey thanks for the feedback! Flying does come up quite a bit specialty with the delver deck and Tron is played a decent amount also and of course Bogles . playing this deck token generation isn't all the fast so I thought the extra token with Druids Deliverance though I can see your point in using something like tangle or using something else. Same goes for Sundering Growth though in saying that I quite like the idea of adding Qasali Pridemage even in the main board say replacing Druids Deliverance with two copies and having more of them in the sideboard.I replaced Savage Thallidwith Mycoderm because it looked overall more effective and Mycoderm pumps up every crature of the types it lists. I could stil add it in but I wouldn't know what to remove/replace.I do like Rending Vines also because it draws you a card but I don't know.As for adding something like spidersilk armour not really a fan of it mostly due to it's price of it on magic online ( which I have the deck on currently) but I do like the idea of having something against flyer but could also not be a dead card when there is not one , do you think there is another card like Spidersilk Armour?
Spidersilk Amor is expensive? Wow. There is no similar card, at least not one that is common. Best alternative would be Aquastrand Spider, but it's fragile and pretty much requires you to have a Mycoderm online.
Pallid Mycoderm doesn't interact with Aquastrand Spider. The spider requires the creature to have a +1/+1 counter on it, Pallid Mycoderm only gives a temporary +1/+1 boost (no counters). Something like Ivy Lane Denizen would be the card that combo's with the spider.
Ah, okay, then scratch the Spider. I checked Spidersilk Armor on MKM and you can get it for around 50-75 cent here (those € cents), that should be around 1 dollar, right? That's about what Essence Wardens cost.BTW, Senress, you listed Tangle as the one from Invasion where it is uncommon. Maybe list the Vintage Masters one where it is common so people don't get confused :)
I meant Spidersilk is expensive for me for online it cost more than the whole deck does, Essence Warden is much cheaper than it on MTGO plus the conversion rate between USD and NZD isn't great either. MTGVault will only let me use the invasion version. I have also been thinking of adding that pridemade honestly. On a side note do you think Bloodbriar would make sense here or even Growing Ranks?
Hm, probably because New Zealand picked up Magic way after Mercadian Masques came out, right? If there are more cards scarce like this you could make a list and I send you a few.EDIT: I'd add Night Soil rather than Growing Ranks. But again, that's from my experience with "normal" decks, maybe graveyard hate isn't needed in Pauper.
Yeah it's a pain for getting cards often but I'm going to try play pauper online which should be good. graveyard or dredge isn't played much in pauper as far as I can tell but not to sure on either of those cards I have a hard time knowing what to remove to make room for new cards.
While availability is a problem, at least cost in New Zealand isn't as bad as it is for me. I live in South Africa :'(
Yeah ouch how does that work out for playing magic?