Filthiness is Godliness

I've tried mulch time and time again, but I just seem to have the worst luck with it. With regards to 1-drops, I was running Typhoid Rats, and love them, but I dropped them to try out Grave Titans. I think Wurmcoils are enough and will likely switch back.

Then honestly, I'd suggest dropping the Slimes and giving Gnaw to the Bone a try. I was a bit hesitant about it too, but it gains you a substantial amount of life =]

Standard slow? o.O You should try playing against my group. Though not as fast as Legacy decks, the Standard played in my group is pretty fast.

plus gnaw has flashback.

It's a term I just learned within the past week or so, from surewhynot, that describes a green & black deck that loves the graveyard. In this case Splinterfright and Boneyard Wurm are really the only cards that benefit from filling my graveyard up, and this deck is otherwise aggressive creature removal.

*Splinterfright, Boneyard Wurm, Viridian Emissary, and Solemn Similacrum

Specifically, it's a G/B aggro deck that is made to benefit from its own self-destructive nature =]

Thank you for the explaination sirs!

I really like Typhoid Rats, a 1 cost deathtouch creature? Yes please.

Also casting Smallpox in your own favour must be one hell of a laugh :).

One more thing, would Caravan Vigil be appropriate for this deck? It is one of the newer cards that I quite like in green, and if you're constantly moving cards into the graveyard it could help with getting lands. (That and I'm only familiar with modern as I haven't looked up the other sets yet).

With my mana curve, and between Birds, Emissary, and Simulacrum, I seldom find myself in need of lands.

One thing I have had problems with is the consistency of Boneyard Wurm. I often find myself disappointed to have one in my opening hand, which should not happen with a 2-drop creature. They wind up sitting around waiting for something to fill the graveyard, and indeed sometimes I have to cast them just to get something in there. Likewise, Liliana's performance in this deck has left me wanting. She mostly winds up sitting around because I cannot afford to activate her +1. So instead, I'm trying something else out, +2 Skirsdag High Priest, and +3 Despise.

I'm tellin ya, Mulch is the card you need. I know you said you've had bad luck with it, but that the thing, it was just bad luck!

Mulch was in the ORIGINAL Filth deck all those years ago...A Filth deck without Mulch is like...PB&J without bread...

Which doesn't actually taste that bad...lol :P

Yes, this is the deck I mentioned.

And okay, okay, you guys can stop twisting my arm. I'll give Mulch another try. But I've got another idea for it entirely, and have to reconsider how I'm going to take advantage of my graveyard. I've been very disappointed with how Boneyard and Liliana have disrupted the continuity of the deck, despite appearing to be obvious picks. So I think I may have another approach.

As much as I dislike spells that do nothing but gain life outside of life gain/shift decks, I have to admit Gnaw to the Bone does look absolutely disgusting.

Also, what do you think of Grimoire of the Dead? I consider it a very casual card, but with all the death touch in here I think it could make a pretty neat alternate win-con.

I don't know about Grimoire, its second ability would make Splinterfright and Wreath of Geists useless as you'd no longer have creatures in your own grave.

Losing Splinterfright wasn't so much a concern as sucking creatures out of the opponent's graveyard, which is currently a very big deal. It's too slow to be worth it though. Assume a third turn cast, that's fourth through sixth turns spent charging it up, and seventh turn to set it off. If an opponent doesn't have an answer for it by then, chances are you would have won anyways.

I love the new demons that were added, and might even put together a Demon tribal =]

This is looking really good now, and I'm glad to see you put in the Mulches. I don't think the Skirsdag will help much, so I'd lose them completely. I'd also maybe cut down to just 2 demons. They're awesome, but 3 is a bit heavy. With those drops you could move to an aggressive but semi-safe 19 lands (8 forests, 7 swamps, 4 WC)

Hope I helped!

Woops! The Priests were supposed to be gone, I have no idea why there were 3 of them still in there... I do want to try out three Bloodgift Demons for consistency of the draw. I agree though, it is a bit high and I'm short on targeted removal after all the changes, so I may drop one for another Dismember.

Thanks for all the help :)

It could work, but generally most of my creatures will die on their own. Either by attacking / blocking or Smallpox. Otherwise I don't really /want/ them to die, just doesn't bother me if they do/ The card draw could be nice, though, but that's what Bloodgift is for ;P

That's the awesome thing about Filth. For many other aggro decks, your creatures dying sucks. With Filth, you just don't care.

Normal Aggro:
Opponent: "Doomblade your ____"

You: "Shit"

Filth:
Oppenent: "Doomblader your ____"

You: "Sounds good."

And right there is something I've learned to love about Vault Skirge since adding it. I actually had this exchange one game:

Solar Flare: "Doomblade your Skirge."
Me: "No can do, chief, it's black. The only legal targets are your Sun Titan and Phantasmal Image."
Solar Flare: "Oh! Crap, I wasn't paying attention, can I take that back?"
Me: "Sure."
Solar Flare: "Thanks, Go For The Throat on your Skirge."
Me: "Sorry, mate, can't do that either. Would you like to try again?"

Black artifact creatures are indeed one of the hardest freakin things to get rid of "kill" spells (though, I've been seeing a rise in the use of Victim...It's good) =]

I have to ask, was the 'Solar Flare' player a 'noob' ? Or was it just one of those 'off days' for him? because what he was doing was very noob-ish :p

Black artifact creatures is why I run Grasp of Darkness mainboard in my 'Kill It' :p

"no threats" ? How so?

He said he 'sees' none, not that there aren't any :P

I kill things with Birds of Paradise :)

Exactly...literally.

Generally people post their decks on mtgvvsult in order to elevate them through constructive criticism. I would never post something on this site unless I have some advice or a suggestion. So on that note Tylees, I would suggest you go back to 9th grade english if you want someone to take you seriously. Also, it's obvious that your feeble mind is incapable of finding the numerous threats in this deck. Stop wasting peoples time. On a different note, I agree with candy that Bonehoard might be worth consideration. I think it's the colorless epitome of Filth.

Wreath of Geists and Splinterfright each scale in power based on the number of creatures in my graveyard. But.. in light of those new cards, I had completely forgotten about Bonehoard! I think with some tweaking it could fit right into the build ^-^ Thanks!

He'd be pretty great for a purely Zombie-Based Filth...which could be pretty cool actually...But outherwise it won't be of much help to this one.

But yeah, he'd without question have some serious power in the right design =]

That is basically what I went for with: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=245022
If you'd be willing to take a look.

How bout "Shenanigans"? LOL

Gravebond (this creature gets +1/+1 for each creature in your graveyard)
Deathbond (this creature gets +1/+1 for each creature in each graveyard)
Shenaniganbond (this creature gets +1/+1 for each creature in each graveyard you can see from your seat)
Jamesbond (Sean Connery or Daniel Craig?)

Craig.................

I dunno...beyond just calling it Simic, I don't think any specific design style has made a name for itself in U/G like Filth has for G/B. And not all G/B is Filth...just the ones that work like this =]

I was strongly considering Kessig Cagebreakers when I made mine, and I've seen what they can do. They're a little too high up in mana cost for how I wanted to design mine, but believe me, you get what you pay for with them. The other great thing about them is that at times Filth can get low on creatures, but Cagebreakers give ample amounts of creatures for attacking or chumping =]

One last thing, the link you put is to your deck edit page, not the actual deck link =P

I had considered Kessig Cagebreakers for mine as well, but I too am trying to keep my mana curve slim, and I'm already too fond of Bloodgift Demon to drop him from the list. I can say, I've had the pleasure of facing one of those buggers, and it ain't pretty!

Haha I fail!!! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=252363

Glad you like it :)

That's what side-boards are for ;) You might want to run something like Praetor's Grasp against him then, since that'd pull his Blightsteel out of his library. Or Sever the Bloodline, or some way to dismantle his method of getting Blightsteel into play.

very true! usually I play white, so I can just exile the damn thing ... but ... thanks for the SB suggestions -- those are definitely useful, since I can unfortunately not destroy it in any way