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Took the red out of my other human brainchild, and focusing more on GW. Been working on this deck since Avacyn Restored hit the floor! Key cards: Humans. Spam them. The trick here is to order your humans correctly, and to play conservatively against decks with heavy removal/control. Yes, open with your Champions and pump them, but dont' drop your entire hand on the board only to watch your 5/5 parish champ get Vapor Snagged, or to get burned out by Bonfire. Rancor is awesome. Popping it on a double striker is beautiful. Speaking of that, Silverblade, Silverblade, Silverblade!! Ajani, Mikaeus, Gavony Township, and Triumph of Ferocity are in there to stretch your mid-to-late game survivability. The repeatable pump and extra card draw keeps you in the race, even in topdeck mode.
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Just a heads up. You cannot share both abilities between two creatures that have soulbond (ie Nightshade + Silverblade would not create two deathtouching double strike creatures). This is apparently a confusing part of the errata that is still confusing a bunch of people.
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That is... incredibly lame if that's true. I'll look into it later tonight. Thanks for the heads up, though! Even if that's the case, nightshade + Elite Inquisitor is nice and strong, and I may phase out some Silverblade Paladins for the +4/4 Wolfir
Can't actually get into Gatherer from work, but literally every source I've seen, from mtgsalvation to the Wizards forums, specifically states both creatures get both abilities. The combo lives!
Yes, the combo lives: http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/mechanics#2
+1 for humans! Check out my demon/devils deck if you have time! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=329995
Hey, back here for sideboard crit. Actually, I personally don't like ratchet bomb. If you're not maining it, its not sideboard worthy either. I think grand abolisher should be in the main deck too, he is always useful. Then I'd replace them maybe some more spot removal when facing heavier creature decks. Also, you may want to add herald of war in there somewhere too. That guy is great for this type!
Hmm, the only issue is Herald of War would largely be irrelevant by the time she hits the board. If I have 5 mana, I can play 2 creatures a turn already, and I won't have many left in hand to play to pump the Herald anymore. Ratchet's there to blow tokens out of the water. Spirits would be a pain since I have almost no flying here, and ratchet would buy me a lot of time. Good thought about Grand Abolisher, though. I'll have to playtest this more, but replacing some Hamlet Captains might be a solid move.
I'd drop Gather the Townsfolk for something more versatile, probably Oblivion Rings. Maybe try to squeeze in another Gavony Township so you have a chance of seeing them. I'd spring for Elite Vanguards over Nightshade Peddlers, but I see their value. Angel of Jubilation also caught my eye as a possible drop, but the buff she gives is pretty sweet. Still, you might be served better by a Mentor of the Meek to gain earlier card advantage with all your creatures.
Thanks for the comments! Gavony is limited in order to ensure I get my colored mana. I'd rather have a single copy in there instead of trying to put in a Mikaeus, simply because it's harder to get rid of and gives me an option if I don't have a play. (maybe I'm a white short of Angel of Jubilation) I thought about Mentor of the Meek, and it's certainly possible. However in playtesting I haven't had much trouble with card draw. I have trouble deciding between Mentor and Triumph of Ferocity - Do you know if anthems would render Mentor useless? Creatues would enter the battlefield boosted already, right? Meanwhile, Triumph will kick in quickly no matter what creatures I'm playing.
Ahh, good call on Triumph of Ferocity. Yeah, I'd say go with those over the mentors. It would still be beneficial, I think, to get some Oblivion Rings in there so that you have more control over what is on the board, but usually with all the buffs you have going on you shouldn't have any difficulty keeping your humans as the top power creatures on the battlefield and thus netting you an extra draw per turn. All in all it looks pretty good. Keep it up.
If it were a human, I'd suggest Druid's Familiar so it can bond with Champion of Lambholt so it can instantly add +2/+2. Normally I wouldn't use Thalia, but since you're running almost all creature spells, it's actually good for what you're trying to do. I was concerned about lack of removal, but I see it's in your sideboard. Very nice overall.
Druid's familiar is too expensive for its effect, but seeing the bear made me think of Uvenwald Tracker. THAT would be a great card, it's a cheap human, and would serve as reusable removal via Fight.
Hi Sajomir, You asked me to look at this deck so.... Wow!!! that's alot of creatures. I haven't see that many creatures in a tourney deck since Green Stompy a ran bunch of single mana creatures with some Land Grant's instead of land. I guess I'm just used to seeing more creature support cards. But all those creatures sort of make sense since you have Champion of Lambholt, Champion of the Parish, and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben in the deck. But I notice you don't have any way to protect the Champions or Thalia so that might be weakness in the deck. Maybe addng Apostle's Blessing or similiar spells might be in order. With so many white creatures I suprised to see no Honor the Pure until I noticed you have both Hamlet Captain and Mayor of Avabruck in the deck. So the only real problem I see in the deck is it has little to handle flyers. Maybe Corrosive Gale in the side board might be of help. As has been mentioned Oblivion Ring in sideboard also might be useful. Hope that helps
Thanks for stopping by! Yeah, I agree that the deck is vulnerable to removal. Thalia is honestly not important, but she's a great distraction for luring out a mana leak. The Champions getting axed does hurt. The good thing is that depending on how much removal they use, I can quickly get a new Champion up. It's board wipes that worry me. Faith's Shield might work in a pinch. Asceticism would protect, but has a huge CMC. I'm not so worried about fliers since I can consistently kill around turn 4-5. Even spirits full of Lingering Souls + captains would have trouble racing it via flying.
If you're playing this deck in Standard, I would suggest Hero of Bladehold. It also generates tokens for Champion of Lambholdt. Another suggestion is Descendant's Path from AVR. It really accelerates your Human output.
I may look into that as an alternative to Angel of Jubilation. Unfortunately, it creates Soldier tokens, not Humans. It would help Lambholdt, but not Parish, and most of my lords wouldn't affect them. The Battle Cry does help that, but that's only +1 power and only when I attack. Jubilation gives her bonus constantly and has evasion for herself. The other downsides include the higher price and the fact that it's rotating out at the end of summer. That may be a lame excuse, but I don't have any Hero of Bladehold myself, and it doesn't seem like the best investment atm. :P
Love it, humans are awesome
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This seems fantastic! I love the abolishers and the ability to shut down control. me and a few guys from a team are actually running red white humans using the gold-knight commander / thatcher revolt combo. SILVER BLADE IS OP BY THE WAY :) BTW what kinds of combos is this deck utilizing?
i tried g/w humans. to be honest i didnt find them as good as W/r humans that i run for standard now. my only thoughts are with mikaeus or the triumphs. i would personally ditch 2 triumphs for wolfir silverheart. i ran him with silverblade enchanted with rancor. its usually a game ender for sure. and actually id -1 plains since you have your pilgrims and put in 2 orings for the land and mikaeus. the only thing else i can think of would to put the nightshade peddlers back in. those plus silverblade paladin bkock for days. does my W/r humans look anything like what you use to ran? unfortunately im gonna have to ditch them until gatecrash is released and boros comes back. RTR didnt really have any replaces for the stuff im losing after rotation :S feel free to follow me and i shall return tha favor :D http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=355125
Thanks for the suggestions - you're right that the Triumphs aren't doing much. This deck is always being shifted around a little bit, so I think Mikaeus is already out. I think I really do need to get some maindeck Oblivion Rings, though.
Very nice deck, I was going to convert my pure white token deck to green/white when RTR comes out. I just started playing and you seem to have a very good grasp on this type of deck, if you don't mind critiquing my deck I would be much obliged. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387296