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Battle of Wits is a card that no-one would expect you to play, same goes for Treasure Hunt. So..... Why not combine the two?
Treasure Hunt out Battle of Wits or Zombie Infestation. If you don't get out Battle of Wits early, then discard with Zombie Infestation and use Elixir of Immortality/Psychic Spiral to put them back into the deck
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nice deck s0rinmark0v with the battle of wits :)
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Some things just have to be done.... I want to build this for real now. Damn. That'd piss everybody off.
hell ya it would especially at FNM
Problem is that I would have to bluff SO HARD when using this deck and trick people into thinking that it is a control deck
ya i understand that
The mill player may well kill themselves! They'd probably notice the size of the deck, I'd suggest putting in as many tutors as you can, as well as counters and removal so you get enough time to dig
i have to agree with gothy on that one
Dig through Time would be awesome too
It would get in the way of Treasure Hunt and only looks 7 deep which in 242+ Cards is not good.
ya i think it could work
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yeah you should probably just mainboard the diabolic tutor. don't know if there are any more modern legal tutors tho.
you might want to change ur lands to a different series, since for some reason ktk lands are priced and other series lands are not, would lower ur estimated value by 40$
It only adds the cost of the lands because there are 200 of them. The deck without most of them is about $30
No its not the amount its the serieshttp://www.mtgvault.com/nijapl3dge3rz/decks/see-this-m8-no-value-lands/
You can always add in tutor cards so that when Treasure Hunt hits those you can just tutor up your Battle of the Wits.
Old idea revived...not much changed. Still a fun concept thou.
Simple yet Golden, my favorite type of deck.+1
MTGvault thinks that Battle of Wits has a CMC of 4.
MTGvault likes to think a lot about some things.
Yeah. I just noticed that it thinks that Honor of the Pure has a CMC of 4. I don't get how it gets that screwed up.
no max handsize is a bad idea. you need elixers to pop off having over 200 cards in library... make it black blue. treasure hunts and tutors.
Beseach the Queen would do the job well.
Zombie Infestation. You certainly did your homework, genius
well played. over looked that. ... but elixers would still do well for ythe battle of wits combo
I have always loved decks that win throughcards that say "you win." I love you for making this deck, thank you!
THIS DECK SUCKS WHY IS IT SO POPULAR?
actually is not
Not popular?
why this deck is so popular is the battle of wits
OH well why can't someone make a good battle of wits deck?
With like tutors or something?
maybe no one wants to make the battle of wits but if i were to make this deck version it would be blue/white version but this deck is pretty good for blue/black deck
I'll tell you why battle of wits decks aren't good, because Battle of Wits is shite!
I would add some tutors b/c you could potentially draw too many lands with treasure hunt making battle of wits useless. Also some counterspells to prevent battle of wits' death. Just friendly suggestions, but good job!
Idyllic Tutor or Beseech the Queen both work really well. Gifts Ungiven would work. The trick here is you need to go off fast or play it as a control deck that runs on tutos. This is supossed to be a budget version of the deck though and if you start plugging a deck full of all these tutors it will get expensive fast.
I like the deck don't get me wrong it's just that if you play test a couple of times you notice that if you don't get treasure hunt you'll just be drawing lands and if you'r playing modern they'll probably eliminate you turn 2-3 so I sSuggest removing some lands and put in some dig through time, all the tutors you can find, srcy lands, scry cards like dissolve, and you could use that myr card that let's you shuffle you'r library fore one blue? Oh and some beseech the queen would good
THANK U I AGREE ALOT!
IT'S SO SIMPLE TO MODIFY!!!(no offense sOrinmarkOv)
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Here is my version.http://www.mtgvault.com/sluvcua/decks/this-is-going-to-work-right/
Treasure hunt, zombie infestation, AND battle of wits? very interesting. really like the use of elixir of immortality here as well. get all those discarded cards back for Battle of Wits. :)
What about this:Use Diabolic Tutor, Diabolic Revelation, and maybe like unexpected results. You could by throwing in the green to use it with Bountiful Harvest or other life gain. I understand the need for little spells so treasure hunt works, but if you only have 4 of the card, you will only get it 7/60 games, approximately. But if you use a lot more searches, then when you do use the treasure hunt you will hit a search/wits. So searches don't get in the way, they only help you. You can find other things as well.MillsTheName+1
I am in the process of adding search cards into the SB sine so many people have told me to use them. If you could leave a list of Modern legal ones, then please do so I can add them
use psychic spiral instead of the elixer. just because people will die before you win. make them made!
I didn't think of that.
oh dang. even better. great use for that card. I love it when you find an awesome use for a mostly poor card. It throws people for a loop, and is super fun to see their reaction. :)
Excellent idea! Here are some tweaks to help make it stellar: Replace the necessary number of islands and swamps with the following: Blue/Black lands - four of each type that you can find/afford4 Ring of Three Wishes4 Neurok Transmuter4 Shape Anew4 Diabolic RevelationsUse the tutors to go get your Rings or use Neurok Transmuter + Shape Anew to get a Ring.Use your rings or your revelations to find cards of choice in your list above to execute your master plans. :)One more thing: I'd also hold off on playing any Reliquary Towers until you get your Zombie Infestation out.P.S.: btw, You still have the Elixers in your description.
Interesting, but how about simply battle of wits, treasure hunt and:Intuition - Basically a blue tutorhttp://www.mtgvault.com/card/intuition/TMP/Diminishing Returns - A better solution in case you dig too far that Psychic Spiral in my opinion.http://www.mtgvault.com/card/diminishing-returns/6ED/
so reliquary tower simply lets you hold 200 land cards in your hand? how about drop black/reliquary tower and add green for nessian courser
why? not sure if this is a troll post or not...
isn't Nessian courser a vanilla 3/3?...
sorry, wrong card. courser of kruphix.
ah, that makes a bit more sense. Lol... :)however I don't think that it fits here.
this deck looks fun
Nice deck look in to this for me http://www.mtgvault.com/ironmoose/decks/bug-modern/
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actually that is the point. you "draw" a ton of lands with Treasure Hunt, then discard them to Zombie infestation for tons of tokens. super cheap, and super fast. this deck can kill on turn 4, technically.
You gave me a idea for one of my decks!!! Thanks!
I try the "Draw Sample Hand" like 10 ten times and it was all like this;Opening Hand : 7 landsNext 6-10 turn : 6-10 more landsSo a very high chance you basically do nothing for the first 6-10 turns except putting 1 land each turn.I think ANY deck can beat that.You have to be very lucky with this deck in order to win.Interesting idea but I dont like the decks depending that much on just lucky draws.
Did mulliganing down to 3 or so cards help the odds at all? It's what you should do with this kind of deck if you want to win. Possibly even chance going down to 1.
Ok...... I am now back from my 12 day tour of the Pacific!Thank you all for the help you have given me. For everyone who has commented about me needing Tutors for this deck, I am starting to agree with you. I am ...... was ...... in the middle of adding them into the SB in order to decide which ones to have mainboard but I went away and had no internet. Not that I wanted it...And to answer someone's question from earlier, this was originally a troll deck that I didn't think would go anywhere like this.
perhaps personal tutor?
Vintage/Legacy. Modern deck.Good idea though
Is this suppose to be funny? Old joke.. Ok ok I'm just jealous coz I can't get any likes on my decks :D
lol :Dlol :D
I know how you feel. Funny enough, decks like this that make it onto the hot page for me are SO INCREDIBLY STUPID even by my standards and people love them, yet a serious deck with great potential goes by unnoticed
That's before you even start on the atrocious budget decks.
Lets not go there.....
Out of all my decks, one is budget and that one is the only deck to be hot. #MarchAgainstBudget
Not trying to ruin this whole budget-hate, but besides the added cost of the 200+ lands in here, this deck is a budget deck. However in saying that, any deck based arouns Treaure Hunt is because it contains 8-12 actual cardsAlso, if you're interested, I will make a not budget (or even very pricey) deck that is good and take back the hot page from budget decks!
http://www.mtgvault.com/iskavan/decks/ad-treasure-storm/take a look at mine, similar ideas.
Looks like a lot of fun. I really like the combo you could pull off with Treasure Hunt and Zombie Infestation if you get lucky while having that many land cards but you could end up with just drawing a ton of lands and nothing else and then having a very boring game. I'm guessing the strategy with a deck like this is to mulligan until you get a Battle of Wits or a Treasure Hunt. I have a few suggestions: You may want to take out some lands and add more search and transmute cards to increase the chances of getting the right cards and not being stuck with all lands but then Treasure Hunt won't be as effective if you do get it early. It might be good to add more cards to shuffle your graveyard back into your library and maybe some cards to sacrifice lands so you could use them as a mana source if you do add in more search cards and still get them to your graveyard and back into your library. If possible you could switch out some basic lands and add in nonbasic lands to have them for their additional effects in case you don't have Zombie Infestation in play to make good use of discarding the lands and it wouldn't interfere with Treasure Hunt.
At the moment, I am putting any Search cards into the SB for now until I play a few games with it and work out the perfect balance. At the moment, I have a similar version:http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/the-giants-treasure/That works with this concept. With this type of seck, luck is the biggest part of the game. This particular deck requires you to be even luckier than a 60 deck counterpart. I am still trying to perfect this particular deck with help from the MTGVault community after posting ot as a joke and seeing what a big sucess it wasIf you are generally unlucky with draws in MTG, then DO NOT play this deck
Ad Nauseam is prob the best tutor for this build.... throwing in Tendrils of Agony or Psychic Spiral would be just plain mean!!!
You wicked man!!! That sounds awesome!!!
Bitter Ordeal & Brain Freeze
Remind me of bitter ordeal? Not sure Brain Freeze is modern legal though
Search target player's library for a card and exile it. Then that player shuffles his or her library.Gravestorm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
actually prob won't work with that
Gravestorm sounds like a cool mechanic, what set is it?
there is a combo that would kill your opponent if you get it off fast enough... Check here> http://www.mtgvault.com/wickedtruth/decks/immaculate-deception/Give your opponent infinite extra turns without giving them the ability to do anything
future sight... gravestorm would work Ad Naseaum/Treasure Hunt > Zombie Infestation > Altar Of Dementia and Psychic Spiral as a back up plan in case anything goes wrong...
If I were playing this deck I would include every relevant transmute card available. Transmute into to battle of wits, its a uncounterable tutor. Just my 2 cents.
Funny thing is that I am. If you read Transmute it says "... the same CMC as this card" (More or less) meaning Brainspoil is the only one usable
Apparently decks don't get voted for how much they win...
kind of. people here usually like either the more creative and less actually effective decks, or standard tourney decks. seeing the same archetype decks or netdecks over and over again generally gets boring after a while.
Step 1: Build a 60 card massive mana ramp deck.Step 2: Add Battle of Wits and Spawnsire of Ulamog.Step 3: Buy about 200 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre (No Problem ;p)Step 4: Play Spawnsire of Ulamog (Suck it Fatal Push!)Step 5: Play Battle of Wits then pay 20 mana with the Spawnsire cast all 200 Eldrazi's (Easy!)Step 6: All trigger and shuffle back into your library except well, three.Step 7: Opponent calls judge (Go Figure!)Step 8: Nitpick the ruling of Spawnsire of Ulamog and argue about how you took a second mortgage out on 200 Eldrazi's for this deck!
lol... that's funny.
I must build this.
I would die if I saw someone bring this to FNM. would be so funny. :P
The other idea with Battle of Wits I could give would be:Step 1: Run a Azorius Pillowfort/Control deck with Battle of WitsStep 2: Play Battle of WitsStep 3: Distract the Opponent, then put 200 Cheatyfaces into play (Because it's Cheatyface!)Step 4: Miracle into a Terminus.
The Spawnsire versionn would be only legal in casual since the "outside of game" is now just the Sideboard
Yeah, both ideas are more for kitchen table play and fun, Battle of Wits is just one of those cards that is impossible to run in a competitive deck. Another then running five colors and playing almost every single search card printed in modern.
I'd be curious to know how often you lose simply because your opening hand is always full of just lands. 9 out of 10?
Hahahahaha this is glorious nothing else
Play a set of Beseech the Queen and with all those lands you're bound to bet what you want.