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This is my new deck. solid recursion and haste to keep swinging, mana accel and enough spells to take care of the opponents creatures if they get out of hand (and ways to take them for myself). I do incorporate two allies into this deck. Harabaz Druid, and Agadeem Occultist. I am going to assume some of you will ask why. first off, I have a special place for allies, being my first deck. I do sometimes make room for them. the simple answer is that, unlike birds of paradise, harabaz can stack. If for some reason I get 2 or 3 allies in the first couple turns, that becomes a ton of mana for me to abuse. Also, unlike birds of paradise, whom after turn 5 is generally fodder, I can still take advantage of the druid thanks to agadeem occultist, who is great throughout the game. with standard being run by 1-4 drops, its pretty easy to pick up at least one creature from the opponents graveyard. the rest of the deck is pretty self explanatory, vine and bloodghast for early recursion (helped out by the ever useful fauna shaman) and both of them and the beaster Gaea's Revenge for haste and that shroud is always nice :) planeswalkers are liliana and garruk, for control, more mana, and general havok. work pretty well together. if you can pull it off...taking all creatures from graveyards, then giving them +3+3 and trample... wish that would happen someday lol... so that is essentially my deck. As always, I love comments criticisms and would be glad to answer any questions either about my deck, or one of yours. cheers! (p.s. please keep card suggestions in standard!)
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Hi, I really do like the main idea of your deck and I usually use that kind of strategy so let me make some suggestions :) First, I do not like consuming vapors that much. You have 8 cards to control your opponent's creatures (maelstorm and doom) but you will never be able to have full control of your opponents deck (if it's good enought) to isolate the creatures you really want him to sacrifice. At least not in medium/late game and consuming costs 4 so you cannot even combo it that easly. So you will only get a sacrifice of dispensable creatures. I would suggest to play smother instead or some discard card like inquisition of kozilek so you can send a creature card to the grave that you can easly return to your field. Once you're using fauna shaman, I guess you do not need 4 exemplars of vengivine, and the same for bloodgast. In there I would prefer to play a set of 2/3 of each of them (perhaps 2 vengivine and 3 bloodgast) and get some putrid leech in. thats a 2 cmc creature that can hold well in medium on even late game. and also makes a good combo with vines of vastwood (attacking with an 8/8 creature in the second turn seems good to me :-P). I hope this comment could help ----------------------------------------------- Comment my decks too
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yes, this comment does help a greal deal lol. I def agree about consuming vapors...some reason I haven't considered any discard lol...using liliana, I prolly should have :P I ran Putrid leech for a little while, before I had the playsets of venge and bloodghast. I chose to drop them because my meta right now is basically swamped with u/w control (counters, DoJ, etc) having the most recursion possible has helped me up my game...sideboard perhaps? and I def. agree...vines and leech = epic pwnage
I notice that you're excluding the Shards block and M10 as much as possible, meaning other than Pulse this deck is good to go after the Scars block rears its metallic head later in the year. Maelstrom pulse is simply too good to leave out while it's legal to play it. I agree with Gewa about Inquisition of Kozilek over Consuming Vapors, they fulfill essentially the same role in this deck, dumping something to the grave that your Occultist can nab. While Inquisition only hits one card, it can do it on turn one. And you get a say as to which card it is. Liliana is great here, she can stack some nasty turns with her second ability, especially after sideboard when you can put multiple turntimber rangers in succession out, making for some scary board presence. The recursion in this deck makes it much better set against Day of Judgement than most, and your allies are actually a great way to draw DoJ out. Overall, I think this is a well curved, well thought out deck that's not dissimilar to the one I'm planning on building in the next few weeks. Hopefully this comment was of some help.
thanks for the comment! I agree with both of you about consuming vapors...hasn't done much for me...some reason I didn't think about discarding lol (fail). like i told gews...my meta is swamped with DoJ, so this has stood out quite well.
i think u should change this to red green to get bloodbraid or green white for ranger of eos and put in low drops like lanwar elves for vengvine and theres really no need for the allys just lanwar elves or birds or heirarck instead.
lol thanks for the suggestion, but I try to go out of the norm standard. changing this to, essentially, a modern naya deck is just not in my interest.
I do like the construct, played something like it in a FNM recently and it was tough to beat. If you really want to make it competitive though i would strongly suggest putting 4 bloodbraid elves in to this deck. Then your Vengevine really becomes lethal because you can cascade into another creature off bloodbraid thus pulling Vengevine from the graveyard and now you have two creatures with haste to swing with. Otherwise, i do like the construction
thanks for the tip, however I am trying to stay out of locking this deck down with shards cards...and adding another color for one of them may be too much for me lol. I'm looking for ways to make this better while restricting my choices to hte later blocks, and preferably in these 2 colors.
well then my best advice is your going to want to hit a creature with cascade or some other effect in Scars that allows you to hit two creatures at the same time. If no option like this becomes available, i would suggest pulling the Vengevines out because they only really shine when you can keep calling them back for free and hit 3 creatures in a turn
i really feel like vengevine will not be as powerful without bloodbraid so might as well take him out completely and swap in for something different. you could consider duress instead Inquisition of kozilek in order to have a sideboard against control (DOJ and counterspells) limiting yourself to a card with CC 3 or less is too limiting. you will see a lot of black and/or mono black decks so i might suggest tomb hex. other cards to consider would be canopy cover instead of vines. and putting Consuming vapors back in. it's deadly against mono black and anything with black splash. kills something non black and let consuming vapors do the rest. another card to consider would be Avenger of Zendikar since it will instantly force a board sweep. or tendrils of corruption instead of doom blade. hope that helps!
thanks for the comment! I chose to keep vengevine as it has the recurring theme that I am aiming for, as well as haste. Although it is indeed less significant without the cascade ability, I have found this deck managing well without it. plus I am trying to keep this in these two colors, as well as avoiding shards as much as I can. (maelstrom pulse is too good to keep out). Also, I chose Inquisition to aid agadeem occultist. with the small number of allies in my deck, an opponents creature that costs above 3 is essentially useless to me. again, my meta is currently filled with w/u control and stuff like red deck wins, not too much black going around. I have been switching back and forth between canopy cover and vines...both have their advantages. avenger shall be replacing putrid leech in the sb soon...already decided on that one a while ago lol
here's my GB deck. hope you can take a look at it! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=84502