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Wow, yeah that sucks man. TCG for the win as far as I am concerned. I have not had a devoted store since I quit a while back. But I can imagine how infuriating that would be.

Jester, I am seriously considering never commenting on a deck again, except if it is in response to someone leaving a comment on one of my decks or if I am asked to leave a comment on a deck. Because some people don't think I leave helpful comments, I think if someone posts a deck on a public forum then they are asking for whatever comment I decide to leave. I understand that the only reason some people post on a place like vault is to get help but some people want to post just to show off what they have come up with. I am not trying to be unhelpful or an ass or just plain rude or any other word people can come up with to describe my comments, but I do have an opinion and sometimes I want to share what's on my mind.

I understand. It is the problem with any online forum. It is an obnoxious world. I value your opinions, you have given very helpful advice. But like you said, some people only post here to have people tell them how great they are.

Honestly I started posting on here just because it was an easy way to send a deck list to my playgroup. The advice that I garner here has been very helpful to me because I was out of the game for over ten years. But I imagine, the me, from way back when I thought I was the hottest player since Brian Selden, would be just as offensive to critical assessments of my decks if I had the internet back then.

It is one of the reasons I tend not to post on many decks. If I see a deck that blatantly has a hole or a banned card, I will mention it as politely as I can. Sometimes I will get a snarky reply, but I just unfollow the deck and let them wallow in their misguided sense of self worth. (My favorite is when I mention a banned card and they respond with "COMMANDER IS A CASUAL FORMAT! I CAN PUT IT IN THERE IF I WANT." To that I want to say, "so you knew it was banned, but did not think to make a note of the fact that your playgroup allows that card. Or perhaps you did not realize it was banned, and have gone on the defensive because you don't want to let anyone think you are a fool.)

I would not let the obnoxious people bring you down. You know your game, you have unique insights, and a willingness to share it with your fellow players. If someone decides to be rude in response, it is no skin off your teeth. In helping them you have worked on your own card knowledge and reinforced your recognition of card synergies. When helping another player, your are doing drills to strengthen your own deck building abilities, in the same way that a tennis player works on their serve with specific drills. If other forum members have been rude in response to your personal insights, you still got something out of attempting to help them. And occasionally you may develop a good rapport with other players, as is the case with me. Restraining from making civil comments on a public forum makes the obnoxious to helpful ratio stronger, and the world needs far far fewer obnoxious people, especially on the internet.

I appreciate your input and encourage you to not let the negative comments get under your skin, as difficult as that can be at times (a concept to which I am sympathetic).

my two cents on the issue

yea richter don't let those other nubs bother you. You always leave behind helpful comments for me and i've taken a few of those and changed some decks up because of it. I value your opinion and its a huge part of how steer my decks sometimes. I think if it weren't for you half my decks just wouldn't have the umph they needed

Yeah arena is one that has been on my list for 6 months and I just have not pulled the trigger yet, I need to though it's inexpensive. I will have to look at the cliffs. Perhaps I should just use asceticism. Thornling could be useful, maybe make a note to remind you to bring the note with you back to your house so you can finish the comment.

I am only guessing you were looking for Thrun and Troll ascetic but there are prolly others. I don't know of a lot of arty creatures that are indestructible but I do know Darksteel brute, manor gargoyle, the colossus brothers, senior stuffy and of those that are listed I am not sure if I want any of them in this deck. Don't get me wrong indestructible creatures would be good additions to the deck and that was something that once again I did not think about.

Honestly the thing about the trolls is that I want to build my own version of a deck like this but instead of werewolves, make it troll tribal. Their regenerating is great for the fighting. I was not suggesting you add it because it would not work the werewolf angle.

The darksteel and blightsteel are biggies that are indestructible. Stuffy's girlfriend Creepy doll. In addition to the Darksteel brute, there are darksteel gargoyle, juggernaut, myr, and sentinel. Indeed another way one could take this deck is to put all artifact creatures and toss a darksteel forge in the deck.

Predator ooze is another great indestructible that would fit. And if you just like the idea of indestructible, but want to avoid laying out so many creatures that are not werewolves, That Which Was Taken is an alternative.

Captive Flame and Ghitu War Cry are great general buffing spells. Greater Stone Spirit could also be helpful in this respect.

Asceticism and molting skin could find a home to save some creature life.

Now some wolfy goodness! Rot Wolf will allow you to distribute some infect damage with your spells. I would try to get some protection on it to keep it going, but arena with the rot wolf reads: "Tap, 3: put two -1/-1 counters on target creature."

Like I said I was having trouble working within the werewolf theme. I like that you did. You may very well see a fightclub deck in the future on my list.

THANK YOU JESTER FOR ALL OF THE GOOD ADVISE ! I AM GLAD YOU THINK HIGHLY OF THE THINGS I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT YOUR DECKS ! I WILL TRY TO GROW A THICKER SKIN AND NOT LET OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS GET TO ME. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR DECKS STRONGER FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN.

There isn't much to work with for the werewolf theme, I understand why you might have been having trouble heck I built the deck and I was a little frustrated. As always I look forward to your potential troll tribal fight club deck, I have a feeling it will be better than this one just because you will have more options.

No one in my play group uses this site. I will link them to my decks occasionally to give them the card list, but that is as much as they are familiar. They are all standard / Limited players and very active at a local card shop where they get most of their deck building discussion going. And I think we are just such good deck builders, others cannot think of ways to improve on our decks.

I rarely concern myself with that though, mostly due to the fact as discussed above, there are a lot of people on here who have an over inflated sense of self worth and feel it is their mission to either just point out what they see as mistakes (take some of the comments from my bird deck for example) or want to tell you how they would have built the deck(frequently what they consider the correct way). I like the page more for the fact that all my decks are easily shareable with a link, it shows the average cost, and if I build a deck list without the cards, I can easily order them through TCG.

Also, if you have an Ipad, I was recently turned onto an app called Decked Builder. check it out. Spectacular deck building app. But now I am going to actually post about decks!!

I wish I had something other than what I call a "brick phone" but it's all I can afford right now.

you are correct good sir, the path would be good in here. i will take a look at the garruk, i prolly have it but don't remember what it does.