Suicide Seers

I'd replace them too, but Dissolve costs double blue so i'm not sure if i could cast it most of the time.

Ahh, yeah I guess early game you might not have the UU. Then id can just the spell rupture for negate or syncopate. You probably will not have any powerful creatures out when you need to use spell rupture. Or you will have UU by then. So if it is an early game concern both the aforementioned counters are good for that.

syncopate seems legit

I quite like this deck. I think it could handle the UU that dissolve brings. Modified this to how I would most likely play it.
http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/suicide-seers/

Added 2x Dissolve instead of Psychic Strike. The scry helps a lot with the Seer's.

Thats kind of what I was thinking. Another neat combo (specifically with Duskmantle) is adding Thassa to pre-screen your extra card draw.

There is already a fair amount of life loss in this deck. RtB seems redundant, honestly. That said, it might work better if an underworld connection was tacked it. I just don't know that MORE draw card is necessary. He digs pretty hard as is. I would consider mainboarding Erebos, but that is about it. Well, removing Ultimate Price for Far // Away might not be a bad idea.

Sideboard wise, I would look for an instant that can put their super expensive beast back on top of their deck if they are green/red. That would be an amazing sideboard with this deck. Just keep making them put their Polukranos back on top of their deck two or three times... That would hurt a lot.

If this was modern, I would definitely recommend memory lapse or remand. In standard, griptide might be something to accomplish what you need. It is a four drop though so maybe not. Vortex elemental is a one drop that puts a creature blocking it or blocked by it in their deck. Hope this helps!

Agreed, no need for RtB, Ive tried the Seer and RtB combo and it was too much life loss. You could do divination if card draw is an issue, although I doubt it will be as well.

Vortex Elemental is definitely worth a test run, I have been annoyed by that card so many times.

Griptide could work. It needs to be an instant so you can put it on top of their deck during their turn.

Tormented Hero is usually just a 2/1 for one mana, which is great for aggresive decks, even if you can't activate him, but you can kill it with your own removal spell and you will get the Heroic effect.

Yeah Rakdos Cackler and Tormented Hero are kind of the weak points of the deck IMO, but he wants ways to be aggressive that won't kill him a la Pain Seer. But using a removal spell on your own weenie? Ehhhh. I would look elsewhere for cheap aggression. I suggest Rakdos's Return, maybe Madcap skills (so your Pain Seer doesn't get blocked so easily) or going green for Scavenging Ooze and Deathrite Shaman like SystemSCSnake suggested. Green would also let you use Abrupt Decay, Golgari Charm, Dreg Mangler and/or Lotleth Troll if you wanted to.

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This is why you down vote them and they get hidden ! :D

Now that Ive got 10 rep thats the plan ;)

What exactly does rep do?

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I had to look it up myself a few days ago.

That moment when you hate yourself for forgetting something... like a SCG IQ that's down the street.

No problemo

I actually kinda like that idea. You should come out of your box more often.

how about dark betrayal? So you can side out the doom blades for them... not sure what comes out of the sideboard though..... but the box is dark and squishy...and...and.... i likes it in here! D:

Four of them guarantees that he gets it. With all of the enchantment destruction in today's standard, it rarely becomes a dead draw. Since most of this deck is kind of aggro control, and all the lifeloss, he will greatly benefit from the lifelink. But in order to maximize on its unearth effect, he should put in at least two gray merchants, at least sb them even with the five cmc.

It says MONO-coloured not multicoloured :P i made the same mistake when i first read it.

I like the far/away idea. Or if you did splash some green that would give you the option of using putrefy...

My eyes deceive me yet again....

4 colour in theros block O-o? isn't that a little slow? then again purify is awesome.. so it may be worth it... seeing as you want to tap the seer already you could add spring leaf drum to support it?

I run 4 color... it works well, but I'm always looking for suggestions.
http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/walker-control/

...ah...i was under the impression he was drawing into answer spells like doomblade, thought seize and dissolve, and having low cmc guys to play and keep the manna open to counter...?

yeah, I get that. but I think that his low cmc cards that don't draw either aren't really very good, or aren't being used in the right context. Rakdos cackler is less useful seeing as how it can't block if it is 2/2, and the tormented hero has no triggers at all, and so it is just a vanilla 2/1 for B. Aren't there better 1 cmc black or blue creatures for standard?

I guess the removal and hand disruption keeps really big threats off of the field, and allows you to swing with more little creatures, and having more of the draw engine cards out means that you lose more life but gain more when they attack... hm... :( I don't know. I normally really like smaller cheaper creatures, but there seems to very little here in the way of actual damage dealing ability.

Right now cackler and hero are the best 1b creatures yes, but there is another one coming up in born of the gods that is probably better hero, but worse than cackler.

It might be because this deck is a lil slow for you? its very controly from what i can see, and some don't like that. Personally i love this kinda control! so i guess it's all about what flavours of play style you like?

I've seen a deck like this at my local fnm, and it ran ashiok. He was actually able to mill out good cards, and play them against the opponent fairly quickly, like at least turn 6 or 5. Just a thought.

I've seen a deck like this at my local fnm, and it ran ashiok. He was actually able to mill out good cards, and play them against the opponent fairly quickly, like at least turn 6 or 5. Just a thought.

no, it isn't that it is too slow for me. :) I normally run combo decks that take some setup anyways. I was just curious if the goal was really to do the damage with lots of little creatures instead of drawing into something bigger. :( I am going to try and find something in standard that is better than tormented hero, for B or U to play. If I can't... then I can't. but, like I said before: this deck DOES look pretty fun to play with already. :)

perhaps blistercoil weird. it gets +1/+1 until end of turn, for every instant or sorcery that you play., and untaps.
or perhaps deathrite shaman. which you could only use half of, but it still would be useful, since you don't have to attack with it, AND it fits with all of the removal you have. or perhaps slitherhead. since if it dies then you can boost something else.
perhaps even judge's familiar would be more useful, as it going along with the removal/counter spell theme that you have.

I don't know. those are cards that I think would be good in here. I personally just don't like unleash, since it doesn't allow me to block. and having a creature with an ability that you can't make use of seems counter-intuitive, that's all. :)