Budget Decks: Too high CMC?

by NorthernWarlord on 18 September 2013

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Deck Description

Are you bored? Does Magic: The Gathering feel old and vapid? Got any useless bucks in your bank account? Ladies and Gentlemen, I have solution.
Use your bank account on nearest MtG marketplace website and buy some cheap cards, craft a deck, and challenge your friends! To double the fun, ask your friend to create such a deck too!
The Budget Decks -series is meant for your free time! These are meant to inspire you, and deck's value is meant to be low! (Between 10 and 20 bucks.)

How to Play

I don't know what am I doing anymore. This is some twisted shit.

Deck Tags

  • Weird
  • High CMC
  • Budget
  • Cheap

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Social Stats

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Budget Decks: Too high CMC?

It seems that budget deck challenge is more interesting than pauper, I mean, why not use all those interesting "bad rares" as well? Btw I have enjoyed your series so far.

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Posted 18 September 2013 at 13:07

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If you want high cmc cards... what about Iname as one?

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 00:35

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This deck doesn't so many spirits but thanks about recommending!

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 06:39

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I like it! For new players (or people mixing it up on the cheap), this really fits the goal. HCMC works with the slower pace, and in addition to having the fun goal of surviving long enough to drop a bomb, this would make some waves in a 4+ player match (against similar decks, that is).

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 04:54

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It would be one-heckuva-rumble-in-the-jungle...

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 06:40

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Why should I spent more money on budget decks when I reached the point where "Magic feels old and vapid"!? If that's the case I'd say explore your collection (which must be huge by the point you are tired) and focus on all the cards you never used before. Don't even look at the price tag, just take a card you think is weird and build a deck around it. You just have to remind yourself again and again to not use the usual cards. So, if your new deck is green and needs libary manipulation, Slyvan Library will pop your mind - resist the temptaion and look for alternatives. You'll find cards like Preferred Selection or Cream of the Crop. Adding Cream of the Crop might give you new ideas on which creatures to add, for example Jackalope Herd. And before you know it, you have built a deck that happens to be budget and includes cards and synergies never seen before.

The deck presented here, however, isn't anything new, just a bunch of mana rampers and big creatures, just on a budget, so I guess if you were bored before, you will still be after building/playing this deck.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 14:33

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1) Just because it is a "budget" deck doesn't mean you don't have the cards already. It's very possible to have these cards; the "budget" purpose is to keep the price low when you get the last 3 cards you need.
2) I know multiple people who have felt that magic was "old and vapid" after playing their third deck for a bit - that feeling isn't directly related to the amount of cards you own.
3) It's true that this deck might not be something new for you; however, that doesn't mean this won't be new for someone else.

The idea here isn't just shown by this singular build. The idea is understood by reviewing a large amount of the many, many "budget" decks that are here. Lastly, (and NorthernWarlord correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think that the only reason this series exists is to be a list of decks for people to build directly. It is a list of "ideas" that are available for cloning. This deck is really the idea of using HCMC cards that are considered low value in a deck as a new challenge, without limiting it to players with large collections or lots of money.

That being said, you made some good points and card choices (I'm a Jackalope Herd fan myself), but I would challenge you to take those ideas a step further.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 17:58

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Well, if someone thinks Magic is old and vapid after his third deck, then Magic isn't the right game for him. I thought, according to the description, that the "budget" part was not meant for people with small collections but instead a challange for those that have reached the point where they think they been everywhere and done everything.

Personally I am always amazed how uncreative many Magic players actually are (this has nothing todo with the deck in question here, I am just rambling now). I am playing Magic since 1994 and never felt the game got stale. Actually it's the other way round: They could stop printing new cards for years and I wouldn't get bored exploring my collection and building decks from what I've already got. Heck, I even think that WotC is trying way too hard to shake things up. Artifacts with coloured manacosts, timeshifted cards, Planeswalkers that "flip", split cards ... all of that isn't needed to keep me interested.
I am also surprised by the success of EDH, mostly because that's a way I was building my decks anway (with that I mean mostly highlander and using unsual but interesting cards).
Anyway, it's my first week here on MTGVault and I have to get used to the power level and general gist of this site, so be a bit patient with a dinosaur like me :)

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:13

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Thanks spudshaver. You are real friend.

And you Puschkin, I understand you. I have been playing quite long now and all the new mechanics and cards that Wizards create always brings some new and cool deck ideas to my mind.
I understand that some players never, NEVER feel MtG as boring game, but really, there is people who get tired to it. And I'm trying to help 'em. MtG has given me one reason to live. And I have to make sure that it doesn't lose all of its players.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:33

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I underszand that, so we are in the same boat. But please clarify: Is the budget part of this deck for the sake of being easily accessible or as a challange to come up with something decent that doesn't cost much?

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:36

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Yes. It is supposed to be like that, and afterall, this doesn't cost much. And just like spudshaver said, these are more "inspiring" decks than solid decks.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:46

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Whenever I come across "budget" I look at it from both those views. If you can make something that is accessible to new/low-funded players, while also working with restrictions (preventing the use of some of your go to solutions), and still manage to make something that could go toe to toe with a deck using "better" or more expensive cards - it's worth sharing and/or talking about. Maybe no one builds it, but it's a reference and discussion. I think that's half the fun.

And thanks for making your point Puschkin! I'm sure others thought it, or have before and never wrote anything. When someone writes it and someone else engages them, everyone who didn't write anything can benefit from hearing out both sides.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 19:27

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you need dark ritual for mana burst

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 16:49

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Maybe... Maybe...

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:34

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sorry, but any legacy deck with a guild gate is laughable. i give you thumbs up for thinking outside the box, but there is just no way.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 16:56

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Dude, read the deck description before commenting. This may be legal in Legacy but it's not meant to be played in Legacy tournaments.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 16:58

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Thanks, Puschkin.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 18:34

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A lot of decks on this site are going to fall into Vintage/Legacy when they are built for casual play. I think besides Standard, casual is likely to be the goal for many decks.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 19:33

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Which is a good thing. My casual decks are always Legacy of Vintage because I don't want to restrict myself. Adding a single card from The Dark makes it Legacy, but that doesn't mean I want to win Legacy tournaments, it just means I want to play that card.

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 19:54

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I love this concept. It makes games very interesting if all players are doing this. Kinda reminds me or sealed deck format because of the limited resources, which I have a ton of fun with.

now, I am not sure if this fits the criteria of this series, but I submit my Training Deck as a part of it. Dirt cheap, and can hold its own against most of my decks (when played properly), and easy to understand. So a good "first deck" type deal.
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/training-deck/

if you want to look at it Northernwarlord, ad tell me if you think it fits your series or not... :)

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 19:40

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what about Khalni heart expedition? its cheap its fast and if you have more than one of them on the battlefield, its brutal, dropping 4 or 5 lands on one turn, and rescue from the underworld could do wonders with this deck :)

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Posted 19 September 2013 at 23:46

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I still hate the term "Budget Deck".

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Posted 20 September 2013 at 05:51

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Agree. I'm quite a fan of selling off whatever valuable cards I pull in limited and playing casually, mostly in a highlander way.

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 03:58

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I'm slightly confused... You dislike the term? Why, and what would you rather them be called?

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 04:25

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It depends on the context really. If someone says Budget Deck, and intends on using it at FNM I strongly disagree with their judgment call. There is no place for Budget decks in Standard. To win in a competitive format such as standard you gotta spend more than $50.00 I haven't played a deck in the past 10 mouth's that the lands alone add up to a cost of $60.00+

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 07:41

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Did you read the description? This deck is 100% casual. Plus, this isn't even standard. And why are you playing in 10 mouths? That sounds nasty...

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 07:54

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What? The description is beside the point. And casual is very different from player to player the format changes drastically. My friends and I play casual with power nine cards. We play as if we own it we can play it. To make a deck and assume people want to play the most competitive format in magic with a "Budget Deck". Is a poor assumption since most people make their own causal decks. I mustn't share the same twisted mind you have for I don't understand what you are trying to refer to as nasty.

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 18:14

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You made a typo. Instead of months you put down mouths.

You said as I quote, "It depends on the context really. If someone says Budget Deck, and intends on using it at FNM I strongly disagree with their judgment call" and "To win in a competitive format..."
The description of this deck says things such as "buy some cheap cards, craft a deck, and challenge your friends" and "The Budget Decks -series is meant for your free time!"
How does that not negate your previous comment? It seems to be right on the point...

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Posted 22 September 2013 at 18:41

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Thanks HotPoloPlayer.

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Posted 23 September 2013 at 16:46

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Is Boundless Realms really needed? It costs 7, by the time you can cast that, you can cast every card in your deck except 3 of them. In that place I'd rather have some more fatties, utility or library manipulation to get those fatties or utility. If, on the contrary, deck thinning was in your mind, I would prefer Yavimaya Elder instead. They come out faster, are good chump blockers and replace themselves.

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Posted 20 September 2013 at 13:16

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I can remove few, but they surely deserve their place.

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Posted 20 September 2013 at 16:48

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This is an interesting deck.

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Posted 21 September 2013 at 18:06

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Thanks. Check out my others too!

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Posted 23 September 2013 at 16:46

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