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It is time to flay some souls.Abuse Soulflayer's ability the best you can with this deck. Cards like Gurmag Swiftwing and Vampire Nighthawk become a tasty feast for your demonic pal when he hits the field.
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Has potential to be absolutely disgusting, love it.
Hey, Northy!Long time since my last visit here, had a stop playing lately!But now i'm again on it :DAny chance to see a Budget Deck based on the morph mechanic?I would like to build one, but have few ideas and few time to think about it.I would like to use:- Aven guy- Sage Mauler- Mythic guy with manifest from FR (don't remember the name, and i got 1X)- Mystery trailWould you like to help?Thanks in advance!PS: as always, +1
Not sure you can build Whisperwood elemental in a budget list xD Some people say its the best card out of FTR
I can do it.
Not with the 4 that you need to be playing in manifest.
Well Whisperwood maybe is a bit out the budget territory, but i got just one so it will be a 1x in the deck, and for keeping it budget it can be placed to SB just to say : "hey i'm here if you want to use me". Point is that i would appreciate some ideas for this kind of deck. The elemental is not the point here, but just a sweet addition. I won't buy more and i don't think i'm goin to trade some!So, feel free to screw it, no problems at all!Thanks!
i really like that demon in the deck and being able to give it any of the abilities your creatures control is just over kill ( I love it)you mind checking my deck out?http://www.mtgvault.com/gregorion/decks/blitz-turbo/
I love it, but is there any way to give it double strike, trample, and/or vigilance?
darsteel myr, in the sb for indestructible.Crypt champ for double strike, the champ even goes to the grave when you cast him :D
Have you thought about possibly throwing a Thought Gorger in there? It would give you an ability to discard some more cards if you need to, would give Soulflayer trample, would be pretty powerful, and gives you decent draw power.
Good Idea, but then this deck slows down and moves towards more of a toolbox deck for the flayer, whereas right now it can function on its own. I would place all of the guys mentioned so far into the SB, to adjust for the deck your playing against, along with Xathrid Slyblade for when your opponent is playing targeted bounce or exile effects, and hover myr so that he can have vigilance and attack and defend when you are in a tight spot :DALSO 900th POST WOO!
After thinking about it also... Is bitter revelation ok here? Is it better than altar's reap? it drops two in the bin draws two like reap... :/ What do other people think?
You can sac Myr to reap...
Right, but I was thinking of moving the myr to the side most of the time hand having the slyblade in the main... but then we are getting into what WE would do with the deck rather than this deck, so your right. As it stands reap is better here.
Yeah. Skyblade would still be a nice add. BTW, I tossed up the infect deck.
Edited the sideboard! Thanks everyone from suggestions!
I'm just going to post this here in case anyone wants the link to the deck mentioned above. XD. http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/sorry-about-that/Northy, are you planning to use verdict on yourself or your opponent?
It depends on the situation. Usually I'll use it as a removal, but if I really need my Darksteel Myr dead, I know where to shoot it.By the way, going to check that deck out.
Hidden horror might be a useful creature. Nice deck btw Northy.
North, would you check out this guy's budget deck? He's kinda new. Thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/burnz/decks/coordinated-instakill/
absolutely nuts lol
Swiftwing, Nighthawk, and Mirri in the same deck, nasty stuff!!!Hey Northy, you ready for another challenge? I would love to see a Frost Walker deck. Built around 1) Manifesting him into play 2) Once he is faced downward pump him up with Enchantments 3) Ferocious mechanic
#stubborndenial
And Force Away.
Although I do think theres a lot of room for improvement and mpre.consistency.
soulflayer + chromanticore = gg
That's kind of a given bro
What about crypt champion? Good way to get double strike and still keeps the deck black
my bad. missed him in the SB lol
Sorry for the odd request, Northy, but could you make a not-exactly-budget (sub-$50) standard deck that isn't just aggro?I'm getting creamed three times every Friday night, and I have come to the master for assistance (a la Karate Kid).Thanks!
Good standard that isn't expensive is really tough, aggro is probably the best way forward, and thus you should build Boss Sligh, so simple to use, I don't think it needs a single rare! Just play tonnes of 1 drops (Akroan Crusader, Satyr Hoplite etc) and then stuff to target, dragon mantle and titan's strength etc
My friend is playing boss sligh, and he promised me he would randomly rearrange my binder the next time he came over. Something good other than boss sligh?
What kind of stuff do you like to play?
U/W heroic is probably the next cheapest option, my mate and I threw it together in an afternoon
http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/brainstorming-get-competitive/ Hopefully this will help you out mate, its all about becoming more competitive
Why play Soulflayer in modern when you can play the changeling who does the same thing?
Is the changeling cmc less than 3?
it's 5 and has more abilities it's able to leech off of. Also, it's a changeling. that's scary enough on its own.
im a hypocrite though because standard mono-black is too limited to make an entire deck off of.
No, it can be done, its just better to splash colours, and then you might as well play Abzan or Mardu!
Anyone heard of or play a tcg called Force of Will?
Ye I've seen it on sale at my LGS
* Why mono-black? This screams for another colour, most likely blue. It would give you access to important abilities like hexproof and offer other ways to get creatures into your grave. Blue:- Mindshrieker: Excellent way to fill your grave and deal some damage at the same time. If he dies he provides flying for Soulflayer.- Tower Geist: Okay, costs 4 but he gets you two cards, one of which you draw and one that will hit the grave! He has flying himself.- Baleful Strix: Would be wonderful in this, but costs 3-4 dollars.Green:- Bassara Tower Archer: Hexproof and Reach for 2 mana- Thronweald Archer: Deathtouch and reach for 2 mana- Pheres-Band Warchief: Trample and Vigiliance (both are pretty important when you are planning on putting all your eggs into a single basket!)* Your current gameplan seems to be to actually play those creatures that provided the needed abilities and then sacrifice them. Which is a slow and arkward way to power Soulflayer. A wonderful alternative: STINKWEED IMP!* Soulflayer can amass tons of abilities but he will always stay a 4/4. So I suggest some pump but since we are running out of slots, we have to be clever - I think, for this deck, creatures with scavange would work best. It doesn't matter if you mill yourself like I suggested or sacrifice your creatures (or just let them die in combat), they can serve a second time and boost Soulflayer. But the best options for creatures with scavenge are black-green:- Varolz, the Scar-Stripped- Dreg Mangler- Sluiceway Scorpion* As the deck is you might want to sacrifice your own creatures, right? So maybe replace Geth's Verdict with Diabolic Edict. This change is probably not needed if you make some of the other changes I suggested.
with the changes being so drastic it might be better if you took this deck and dif your own vesrion?
Why? I don't do budget decks. Moreover, I don't build decks on Vault for other people or for fame, I build decks that I will use IRL - and this kind of deck wouldn't get anywhere in my group nor is it interesting enough for me to build around.The reason I comment on other decks is to help them out and to make them better withing the limitations given. And this deck could be a lot better, budget or not. My suggestions may seem drastical but you have to admit that I adressed serious flaws. Just because the deck is made by Northy doesn't mean it's perfect. In fact, I made the observation that the less criticism he gets, the more sloppy his decks become. Despite, the second and fourth point of my list can be applied without altering the deck much.
Though I appreciate your suggestions a lot Puschkin, I agree with Necrumlsice. The ones you are suggesting are pretty harsh. Don't get me wrong though, since I'm adding some Diabolic Edicts and Stinkweed Imps right now.
I think he has a pretty good point about splashing, I'd like to see it Sultai so you have green self mill support, blue disruption and all the pretty cards like baleful Strix and the hexproofers. If it wasn't on a budget, I'd be throwing in a playset of deathrite Shaman ASAP! XD
That's why they are called SUGGESTIONs, you have the options to not use them :)And if you know me, I usually don't make drastical suggestions, it's just that I don't understand why a deck like this is mono-coloured to begin with (for the reasons I stated).:)
erm...thank you for answering my question... sorry if i offended you? ^-^''' I assure you it was entirely sincere, and i apologise if it didn't seem that way...
Like the deck Idea. Seen an expensive version with Chromanticore already, but not as budget mono black :)Cairn Wanderer was mentioned already too.What is Fleshbag Marauder for? I don't see tribute fodder except the rats. Same for Altar's Reap.Isn't Sign in Blood the better version, especially in Mono Black? Or maybe a Skirk Ridge Exhumer would be an idea? Discard option and Tribute fodder in 1 card.I like Rotting Rats alot. Maybe a bit hand control could work in here. Rakshasa's Secret pops into my mind. But maybe there is some other card that lets both players discard?! Also the self milling could help.I guess you prefer Swiftfoot Boots over Xathrid Slyblade?!Liege of the Pit is the cheapest dark trample I could find (with his morph). Or Abyssal Persecutor is an option, if you keep Marauder and Reap!?
oh so you liked the Swiftfoot Boots vs Xathrid Slyblade idea?! o:-)
What about innocent blood?
can you look at my deck? it's a bit out of budget but it's just so fun! turn four bolas!http://www.mtgvault.com/planeswalker999/decks/appeasmeant-of-the-dragons/edit: fixed the link
Link does not work. And searching "appeasement"http://www.mtgvault.com/decks/search/?q=appeasement&searchtype=decknamegives 6 other decks, you might want to look at
Just go to his profile if the link isn't working.
Splashing blue might be a good idea. Monastery Siege does wonders for any Soulflayer deck. Red is also an option for stuff like Faithless Looting.
Not related question,does Crypt Champion make return Vengevine from the graveyard?Because you cast a extra creature from your graveyard.
No, you don't CAST the creature with Crypt Champion. You just put it onto the battlefield.
oh good to know, thanks
No problem.
Sign in blood > Altar's reaping
Could be wrong...but Altar's Reaping has synergy with Soulflayer. Example: Use Altar's Reaping on Gurmag Swiftwing. Draw 2 cards and Put Swiftwing in the graveyard. Now play Soulflayer. Use Delve to exile Swiftwing from the graveyard. Outcome is that you ensured (by sacking a creature) Soulflayer is a 4/4 creature with 1. Flying 2. Haste 3. First Strike. You could sack Nighthawk as well. Or Mirri. Sacking Myr makes the Soulflayer Indestructible. Sacking Skyblade gives Soulflayer Hexproof. Sacking Nighthawk grants Soulflayer with Lifelink.
While this is true, is it really worth the extra investment to run it? Yeah you get delve fodder, but there are downfalls to the card that shouldn't be overlooked: 1. it costs 2 cards to get you 2 cards, netting you no card advantage. 2. You need to spend mana and a turn to get a creature out before you can use altar's reap. sign in blood can be used right away when you have 2 open mana.A card with a looting effect (such as tormenting voice, albeit red) would be much better because you get your selective delve fodder without having to spend time and resources to first play the card you want in the grave.
Not disagreeing with you friend. Nor am I trying to speak for Northy. Sign in Blood is quicker and isn't 2 cards for 2 cards. I agree. However, I do think I see what he is trying to do. He is trying to put in as many cards as he can that combos with Soulflayer. In that effort, Reap is very nice. And if he does play against other 20 dollar decks...than the one turn lost (and one creature lost) with Reap vsSign in Blood my not be as hard to come back from. Northy said it best, "Abuse Soulflayer's ability the best you can with this deck. Cards like Gurmag Swiftwing and Vampire Nighthawk become a tasty feast for your demonic pal when he hits the field" in his How to Play section. I would like to point out, for what it is worth...probably not much...but Tendrils and Verdict could also be used on your own creatures to feed Delve/Soulflayer. Would be silly to do so, but just wanted to point out the combos/synergy he is trying to go for. On that note...Culling the Weak would be a neat card for Soulflayer. Not modern, of course. But neat.
Another very nice card, not Modern is Innocent Blood. You sack your Swiftwing and opponent sacks one of his creatures too. You then Delve Swiftwing with Soulflayer. It is better than the Geth's Verdict card, that is for sure.
Awesome as I expected!Cards with the new Exploit ability such as Rakshasa Gravecaller and Vulturous aven could fit in this deck!P.S.:Sorry about it, I'll put a shameless link of my Soulflayer deck, so if you want, you may help me to build my own:http://www.mtgvault.com/thales120/decks/budget-soulflayer/+1 from me! Thanks for the attention!
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Isn't Grave Strength a good option to accelerate your graveyard? Plus you can make a single creature bigger, possibly preventing your Soulflayer removal by Crackling Doom.