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Focus Distortion Strike on Precursor Golem to make all of your golems unblockable Shape Anew copies to all golems to cycle out Blightsteel and Emperion Rites fills the field extremely fast when copied especially with kicker and Vastwood Vines protects from bolt or goblin grenade... Comments and suggestions appreciated. =]
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Biggest issue is things like bolt rip through your golems, even with spellskite.
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what would the choicest card for protecting the golems be? also can you help me with some mana issues it has? i need some cheap mana sources t get me up to 5 mana quicker
you can run Redirect that would help. You may choose new targets for target spell.?
Redirect does the same thing as Spellskite. Stave off or the blessing work. Vines of vastwood is even better in this deck. However the manacurve will be a big problem against RDW or any Aggro deck. And without good removal you will get a lot of problems on the board. Another problem is that the Cryptoplasm (nice combo :)) only triggers after a turn. Add some Memnite, Ornithopter etc. and some one or two drops to stop your opponent early game. BoP has just been reprinted so you can use it for mana. Also plenty of green walls that add green mana. You can have all your mana tapped and still play Vines that way.
thanks for the help. I decided to downplay the cryptoplasm and throw in some ornithopters for free creatures. I'll also side deck some narcolepsy for ealry game creature protection. I'm not sure what kind of removal i should run in this deck though...
redirect would be nice but it only changes the target after the golem has been already been targeted meaning precursor still procs and puts the copies of the spell targeting your other golems on the stack vines is the best way i can think of to prevent my golems from being bolted
You could give one golem protection, and all gain it then. Or you could unsummon.
well vines is there for protection so is withstand death i considered unsummon but i think narcolepsy is is a more permanent option
Asceticism works really well for protection but there are other cards like Apostle's Blessing, which is white phyrexian mana so if you dont mind loosing 2 life it aint bad, it can also be used when attacking so as your opponent cant block with artifacts or creatures of the chosen colour - could be a problem against multi coloured decks however =/
Cryptoplasm doesn't work the way you think it does. It's already on the field when it copies precursor. Precursor's ability triggers when it enters the battlefield. Tel-Jilad defiance is very efficient card draw with precursor on the field. Also, Fabricate and Polymorph are not standard legal, even if they were... You have too many small artifacts to make Poly useful. You'd end up often getting ornithopers a palladium myr and a prototype portal or some other semi-useless combination of cards like that. You're on the right track with the other things though.
...better?
Yeah, you have a much better chance at getting a good or decent artifact off your polymorph. Misty Rainforest would hit both your mana types, if you can afford them. Mimic Vat is amazing with precursor too. Is this for extended format?
yeah its extended
i like the mimic vat =]
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Gobbo Grenaide ;P
no seriously looks like fun i think id prefer to turn them in to frogs tho :)
withstand death >=]
or vastwood vines to protect from the froggy spell
How about canopy cover for you precursor? it's a permanent enchantment that effects all your golems with hexproof and can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach. If you do that you may be able to take out some distortion strike for something else since they are all pseudo unblockable.
precursors effect doesn't copy enchantments
but thank you that gave me the idea to side deck tortoise formation, that really does give all of my golems shroud
yep good call. I thought that it was anything put on it. I guess that would be way too amazing.
yeah if that were the case id put in a ton more auras =]
what if you were to equip something to precursor golem? would the equipment effect other golems? like lets say you used darksteel plate on it. would all your golems be indestructible?
no, it only works for instants and sorceries. withstand death does get copied though and makes all of my golems indestructable for a turn
i have a question can anyone please help me out? if i played polymorph with multiple instances of precursor golem on the field it would be copied multiple times for each golem on the field correct? my question is after it resolves for each golem once what happens to the extra copies? do they fizzle with no target or are they now forced to target the new creatures brought out by polymorph this turn? or is it that i just bring out multiple permanents for each golem sacrificed?
No, only once.
so the extra copies just fizzle?
I still like the idea however it has the same faults as before. A mono black rush/ rdw deck would just finish it before you are able to polymorph, rite or even cast a golem. If you splash green you could add overgrown battlement to help you cast rites with kicker sooner. Or ascetism (it is expensive so has the same problem).
Hmm, interesting. You could use Shape Anew on the cheapo golem tokens (they count as artifacts) to get the bigger golems like the Blightsteel or Emperion out.
put in 1 or 2 twisted image for card draw
twitch is already there for draw
Asceticism would be a good card for this deck your creatures gain Hexproof and regenerate.
I think Apostle's Blessing would be a great card in here, you can protect with it but also make them unblockable, so that's just another way to do it..
is there a more contemporary card that can replace fabricate that i dont know about?
Xeno Graft (Goblin) and Goblin Grenade. *NUKE*!!!
lol yes... =] maybe... we'll see =_=
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BTW, if you really want to get your Blightsteel out I would suggest Mass Polymorph since you have the potential to make lots of tokens to exile.
thats what shape anew is there for practically the same thing
I've practically made this same deck. Several times over... And yet no one ever gave it so much love. D:
I feel ya on that one. Never get any love for the same ideas that get on the front page.
Anyways, the way you've built it is worthy of the likes! Great deck.
its evolved a lot thanks to the community and suggestions of others =]
ok deck look at my decks that i am using
what should i run instead of fabricate? it needs more access to precursor golem...
i like it! Really cool deck. Not sure you need something in place of fabricate. think more control. :) into the roil, stoic rebuttal, mana leak, etc... are all cards you should check into. also, I'd look into some more mana ramp too. although walls are cool ramps, they lose impact when you aren't playing other ramp too / green sun. I like birds and rampant growth the best (solemn is a good play, but still not awesome. especially if the soonest you can play it is t4 and you have no control. I like the deck though! very fun! check out my new theme deck? Like for like? comment for comment? i'm interested to know what you think of it. :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=216915
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I don't know if you want this to be standard, but I have a golem deck with precursor golems and in case there's any removal, I use Pteron Ghost to regenerate them. Just something to think bout.
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I can see precursor golem backfiring VERY badly. Though if it goes well it should go VERY well. I would suggest adding moar splicers, and perhaps a doubling season if you can get your hands on one.
ive considered doubling season here but never tried it yeah this deck is meant to be risky, hopefully its able to prevent golem loss with vines or withstand death but if all goes wrong then a well placed mimic vat can help you recover quickly
Apostle's Blessing is a good protection card.