Pet peeves. (Feel free to add)

by magicviking on 13 April 2022

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Hi, welcome to the pet peeves about mtgvault posts thread.

My main one is about posts that don't state what format their deck is supposed to be played in. I get that sometimes your clever deck name is to long to add the format into but mtgvault is one step ahead of you, they added TAGS! Effing use them!!
Ok, you are next.

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Your pet peeves in the comments, please. ;)

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  • community
  • Open
  • Rant
  • Kitchen Table

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  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Not Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Pet peeves. (Feel free to add)

I'd gladly add modern to my tags, but then I'd be swamping all modern players with my halfdeck project.
So I write it in the intro of each deck instead.

As much as I've pressured other people to use tags, it has to be admitted that it's not always a good thing.
There are exceptions.

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 07:20

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Isn't the simple solution to that to not make them public unless you are looking for input?
#input. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 19:09

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I've been looking for input since I joined the place.
I've also tried to improve the community in at least a 100 ways, but when I got here, someone else followed, who I've probably humiliated at the playing tables.

Recently I've been thinking that it was basically a setup.
I used to provide the Danish meta with tons of theories, but then trolls hacked my account and started altering my old posts. I only discovered it because I'm old fashioned and kept papercopies of my posts, so I could see the changes.
Then I started to look for a new place to post, when out of the blue someone in Denmark suggested this place.

Took me some years to puzzle out the events, but it was tied to a theft of one of my tournament decks.

I've been posting warnings about theft ever since I realised it.

When I named one of my halfdecks: sacrifice
All combinations I've posted with it contained the warning.

If you search for decks tagged with: sacrifice
You can look back at the older pages and see who liked sacrifice decks in the past, it was a tag used more than I thought it would, but since I started to use the tag in my decks it's usage have simply exploded.
Sacrifice decks are an increasing hit these days.
(Not counting my own ofcourse)

If you compare the date of the oldest use of sacrifice as a tag, you will see that the current rate that the tag is used at is abnormal. I've been having a laugh about that. My personal hate team really makes their own sacrifices :D

This is another type of input, but I can use it as a drive nonetheless.

The trolls been inactive for a while because I made a new trick, fooling them into thinking I've stopped warning about theft.
A small hour ago I posted about how to break halo fountain.

During the next hours I'll monitor who posts a lot, especially several decks, and then within 24 hours my post is usually burried.

Then I post something else :)

The same pattern is seen with the tag: mill
If you look at most of the mill decks they are old designs. The trolls reuse old decks to "cover" my warning.

It's yet another detail that has confirmed my belief that they are thieves.

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 19:33

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There's also the problem that users with 1000+ decks want to be able to search for them rather than dig through 30+ pages to find something.

But you can only use the search engine to find decks that are public.
That pushes a lot of the heavyweights to publish despite most of them want to just use this place as an archive.

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 20:17

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But Sir/Madam; your reply just emphasizeed my previous point, didn't it?
I've got decks that I'm building/testing that I keep here with all 3 levels of privacy on them, (who doesn't?), and I wouldn't even dream of hitting public unless I have a specific reason. This is not even a subject as Public is not the default! It has to be selected.

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Posted 14 April 2022 at 19:51

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Well, there's one troll in here that has an exotic move to annoy others, with all his alternate accounts he starts by making his deck public, then slowly fills it with some cards (at close to a card per minute)

Back when I collected offenses I dubbed it deckslapping, then changed it into deckflashing.

At first I thought he might be a sort of flasher, just with magic, but then I discovered that a certain type of decks appeared shortly before the flash sessions, and I noticed that this particular troll had a viewer ship while flashing.

So while he flashed a card a minute, someone was watching his post, so when he'd finish a commander deck, it would have about 300+ views.

Most of that stuff is covered or will be covered in my paranoiazone.
https://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/paranoia-zone-frontpage/

We got all sorts of trolling in here, dating back to 2006, and they've made it very clear that they aren't going away.

Sometimes my war against them surfaces, but most of the time it's being played out hidden from the public.

I've always been publishing in here, so I use that as a way to warn against the stuff going on here, and a number of trolls think the solution is to spam, which is hopelessly outdated. A few has learned to sabotage my work by spamming the tags, but that's essentially not a solution either.

At the moment I believe that the there is a test of my vigilance, because I've been busy with many projects.

But the thing is, I saw that comming a long time ago.

I got a wast archive of usercounts, and everything I see someone new or old, they get added on a list, that I look through frequently to break the troll codes.

To identify each other, the trolls need signals, and they often slip up because of the amount of accounts they have.
I generally only identify them because they can't help staying with the same patterns.

A few times they've tried reverse psychology, but they sort of suck at it.

The times they've tried to befriend me, they've usually resolve to trolling me slightly after just a few days.
Trolling me is too big part of their nature, and since I've been friends with a very trollish person for about 15 years, I know just how to serve up stuff that triggers their troll behaviour.

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Posted 15 April 2022 at 07:27

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Ideally, at least from my standpoint, the variables a deck should communicate are as follows:
1- format
2- level of competition
3- budget (if that's not already communicated via number 2)
4- theme (if it's not obvious from the title)

I don't see this happen very often.

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 20:00

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That's why I launched the good players list.
That got absolutely hated away because if I gained a regular audience as a result, things would become very difficult for the thieves.

Remember it ?
https://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/other-cool-users/

They went absolutely bonkers about this...

The spam to cover this conversation will be hasty :)

Look for half done decklists by people sharing similarities in their usernames :)

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Posted 13 April 2022 at 20:04

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dknight27: Would make the site a hella lot easier to navigate!

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Posted 14 April 2022 at 19:44

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A number of other sites have a "similarity %" where you can see how similar to other builds archived a deck is.
In terms of "competitive" some people trusts the similarity between designs more than they trust the tag.

Looks like the trolls are lazy, rather than spam, they downvote :)
Enough downvotes and a comment is exiled. It can occasionally be read by clicking the nearby [+], but sometimes the mods disable that feature. Recently it's been turned on and off a lot, which is why I know they monitor events in here, but doesn't step in.

The trolls presence is why any attempts to form a civilised community are bound to fail.

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Posted 15 April 2022 at 12:02

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Cheap, themed, kitchen table decks that nevertheless get titled budget decks. I used to be a massive part of this problem many years ago, perhaps that's why it frustrates me so much. There's a world of difference between slapping 2 dark rits in a dubiously Legacy legal, stupendously slow zombie deck meant as a fun, casual, themed deck, and cutting $200 from a T2 Modern deck in an attempt to make something semi-competitive for ~$50-$150.

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Posted 15 April 2022 at 21:49

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I hear ya, cutting $1400 from a Legacy deck by replacing 2 lands with shock lands is to me a "budget" version that allows peeps that don't have a $ tree in the backyard to maybe be exited enough to enter the format.
Are they worse? Sure, but are they $1400 worse?
Now cutting essential cards is a different story and where I feel we enter the "kitchen table" pre FNM realm.
Oh, and as you just mentioned, I'm also part of that particular problem I guess as I just posted a mono W Pioneer Aura deck that will likely be beat about the ears quite a bit when I take it to the next FNM and I did not mark it as budget! :)

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Posted 16 April 2022 at 21:15

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