Turn 3 Win

by Lucian on 13 March 2011

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Deck Description

Turn 3 win

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Turn 3 Win

Have you thought about adding a possible Vampire's Bite? It can bump up Kiln Fiend by +6/+0 Since he gets his own bonus plus it is a one black instant.

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 01:49

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Thanks for the advice

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Posted 24 March 2011 at 03:53

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 03:03

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 03:18

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how is this a turn 3 win? I like idea here but i might add fire servant or pyretic ritual.

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 03:32

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Turn 1 - Land
Turn 2 - Land, Kiln fiend
Turn 3 - Assault strobe, tainted strike + 1 other

more combos - and fire servant costs too much, pyretic ritual leaves me with B mana.

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 07:37

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you actually don't need another

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 03:53

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or green counld be cool, theres some one +4+4 boost spell and so the combo is
t 1: land
t 2: land plague stinger
t 3: +4+4 spell on it and assoult strobe

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Posted 13 March 2011 at 09:32

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Just the same as playing two spells.

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Posted 24 March 2011 at 03:55

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Well it can be

t1: land
t2: land plague stinger
t3: land, vampire's bite or virulent swipe + assault strobe, same thing.

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Posted 14 March 2011 at 00:21

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o ok well thats really badass. If anyone would take a look at some of my decks and let me know what you think i'd really appreciate it.

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Posted 15 March 2011 at 19:48

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Will do buddy <3

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Posted 24 March 2011 at 03:51

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this deck looks really fun but at the same time super easy to deal with, but then again alot of decks are that way, i like the idea alot though kiln fiend is just a beast in general.

hey would you mind taking a look at my B/R aggro deck and giving me some help?
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=160602

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Posted 16 March 2011 at 08:36

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Yeah, never really meant for any serious play - just a fun muckaround deck with friends, will take a look at your decks :D

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Posted 16 March 2011 at 17:25

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Will you please tell me what your favorite card is? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=164531

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Posted 25 March 2011 at 01:27

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_____ would probably be my favourite.

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Posted 25 March 2011 at 10:31

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Neat, this has to be one of the few standard decks I've liked, it's unique, and powerful.

Pretty interesting, even had room for removal.

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Posted 26 March 2011 at 05:18

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<3 Cheers man, it's just a nice budget burn/infect deck that catches people offguard.

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Posted 26 March 2011 at 10:49

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Very cool. Basically a rush infect, lots of people do the same thing with a plague stinger and any buff spell like giant growth. This is more fun 'cause the Kiln Fiend does actual damage which freaks people out :) Only downside is that your spells only buff his power - so he's still vulnerable to Lightning Bolts, etc.
I'd add something like Prey's Vengeance or Groundswell - same good damage buff, gives him toughness as well. Of course, those are green so you'd have to mess around a bit :(

If anyone reads these, give a new player some help on a fun deck I might be buying :) It's potentially a turn 2-3 burn win.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=165270

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Posted 26 March 2011 at 19:17

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Thanks, but usually you can get a 20 damage kiln fiend while wiping out their creatures - as again not meant for any serious play just as a muck around oh snap sort of deck ^^

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 04:22

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Wow... Sweet combo man... Like holy sh*t thats fast

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Posted 26 March 2011 at 20:52

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<3 that's the idea.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 04:23

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Can anyone check out my turn 2 deck xD

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=165499

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 02:50

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Seems like a rare chance at a win but pretty cool for a legacy deck ^^

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 04:24

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saw a t2 win infect black/green doing something like this kinda need that kill hand thoo?also please check out my u/w deck i think its ok just wanna have more opions on it

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 04:27

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Possibly look at some Luminarch ascension, wall of omens, etc...

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 05:01

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ive seen decks like this for months. why is this one so popular all of a sudden?

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 04:47

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Because it's not just a 3 turn infect or burn win, it's both at once, has a pretty high chance of drawing a "win" hand.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 05:00

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Unfortunately I'm gonna gree with scout on this one. I saw like 6 of these like a month ago all on the upcoming. That being said, never seen just a B/R one since green is so much better at buffing and blue has some nice removal and Distortion Strike. So yeah, it's pretty consistent then

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 21:46

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I have a similar deck like this..the only thing is I've posted it before you do..

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=159449

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 08:00

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Except for the fact that mine looks nothing like your deck? I only have the two creatures so theirs ALOT higher chance at drawing the pump spells you need...

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 14:07

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Sorry, didn't to cause any fuss..peace man..well my only comment on your deck is that, you would be drawing more spells rather than creatures..and have you played this deck? It's hard to get a 3rd turn win..

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 14:57

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Actually i really like this deck and after about like 100 sample hands its almost a 90% chance of winning third turn

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 15:23

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This one is a bit slower, but solves the problem of not starting with a creature pretty fast

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=161368

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 21:48

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Very cool deck, would be the absolute bane of my G/W lifegain ramp deck =-) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=164730
Very well done.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 08:21

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Try adding unnatural predation, ivy charm, or even rancor. The most immediate stopper to this deck is the fact that the kiln fiend can be blocked; these cards give a slight boost and trample. I know you have creature removal, but if they have more than one creature out on turn 3 you can only burn one and need a way around the others.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 16:06

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I started with a decklist pretty similar to that and over the past few months or so have playtested a LOT and settled on this. It's more consistent than what you've provided, has at least a bit more late-game potential, you know? But still has the possibility for a turn three win. Anyway, check it out, there might be something in there you'd find useful.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=104490

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 19:23

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 19:38

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funny ive been messing around with a similar idea.. i didnt think to use the plague stingers though. however, you could toss in a couple livewire lashes as bonus dmg since there are so many instants. also, fling would be a fun one to get that infect out even faster. i personally dropped the deathtouch in favor of the fling. its still iffy, but hella fun.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 20:51

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You wouldn't want to use Fling with infect, as it would be dealing regular damage. Livewire Lash is great, though.

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 21:36

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Livewire lash just slows down the whole deal.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 03:56

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I think pyromancer ascension would be cool if u dont kill turn 4. plus galvanoth

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 23:16

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Good for one on one, but not teams or mutliple players

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Posted 27 March 2011 at 23:39

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Livewire lash or PA does not work in this deck - it is not meant to have any lategame potential or to be used in any serious competition, it's just a fun deck to play amongst friends...

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 01:06

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Then this is going to be very frustrating for you to play and for your friends to play against. If you don't win in the first few turns, you'll essentially have no chance of winning afterward. And if you do get lucky and win on turn 3, it's going to be fun the first couple of times but get old for everybody involved pretty quick.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 02:23

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@ayefightbears, it's in a similar vein to KRED decks, you either kill them before turn 4 or else you run out of oomph and fall over flat, as i've said before many many many many many times it's only meant as a fun deck to pull out when i'm sick of playing my others, I never plan to "main" this deck or use it over and over.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 03:55

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Maybe add 1-2 Goblin Guide, to help with the lack of creatures or the opponent killing them off.. if they wipe the board or something you could play Gobby, Assault Strobe, Vampire's Bite/Virulent Swipe then Tainted Strike.....DO IT.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 04:02

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It would also make the Red to Black ratio even...if you add two and take out two black cards.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 04:04

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I trialled an almost identical deck and could never get the right cards in my hand. I found that the lack of creatures is a killer. I've changed mine to R/U and it works well with distortion strikes and for extra creatures I have Neurok Invisimancers, Preordains are awesome aswell as they allow you to buff your Kiln Fiend while looking for even more buffs :)


Also feel free to check out my decks as I'm new to mtgvault :)

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 10:25

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I'm about to add my deck list of my Kiln Fiend deck but I'm at work atm :/

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 10:26

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I'm about to add my deck list of my Kiln Fiend deck but I'm at work atm :/

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 10:31

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I made a very similar deck awhile ago to this, I found that if you didn't draw your combo early you got kinda screwed, Adding in Tunnelers helped to ensure that your Kiln doesn't get blocked, it works pretty nicely, check it out.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=102075

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 13:12

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Oh and drop the summits for the Scars Black/Red fast lands. You're planning on winning turn 3, might as well get the fast mana color fixers.

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 13:14

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Made with cards i had laying around, if i come upon any will slot them in.

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Posted 29 March 2011 at 07:15

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what about Phyresis ?

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Posted 28 March 2011 at 18:10

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Impossible to win on turn 3 with it.

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Posted 29 March 2011 at 07:14

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Congratulations on the front page! Hope you keep enjoying the game, and that more of your stuff winds up here

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Posted 29 March 2011 at 10:31

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Love the deck, It inspired me to make a version of it myself. Please take a look. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=166821

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Posted 29 March 2011 at 21:28

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wow cool idea. faster than my other deck kills. not the one below.

hi guys! please help with my deck. i need it badly haha. kindly criticize it. here's the link :D
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=166141
thank you :)

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Posted 30 March 2011 at 17:51

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I actually built a turn 1 kiln fiend deck, it works real well and is quite fast. Check it out, give me any ideas or pointers for it if you have any. Let me know what you think.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=147003

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Posted 31 March 2011 at 06:19

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Looks good - mines standard though...

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 12:43

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and btw i like your deck, but i feel that with a few mana cards like dark ritual or a pyretic, you ahould be able to go off faster for the win and more often. but no doubt kiln fiend with infect is a great kill

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Posted 31 March 2011 at 06:27

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1. It's standard. 2. You're only allowed 1 dark ritual in most decks...

Thanks though :)

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 12:42

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Posted 01 April 2011 at 15:08

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Honestly, I'd rather use Chandra Spitfire instead of Kilin Fiend. Since it flies it get's over more of the easy 1 drops that don't, but either can be targeted or can't be killed off.

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Posted 01 April 2011 at 15:09

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Turn three win... Turn three win...

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 12:41

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After drawing a couple of hand on this deck, I really like it. Even if you don't get your draw you can still hit for big damage turn three... great job.

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 13:47

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Don't forget, this deck looks as though it can easily mull down to 5 or even 4 and do just fine.

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 16:31

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OMG OMG OMG I looked at your first card, and realized that this is the infect I always wanted to build. I am relatively new to Magic so I don't know many cards. The second I read Assault Strobe I decided I wanted red-black infect. I had never heard of Kiln Fiend! Great idea, great deck!

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 16:25

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Inkmoth Nexus, and Teetering Peaks!

nuf said
:D

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 16:26

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Hey can you take a look at my deck?

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168711

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Posted 03 April 2011 at 16:29

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