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Saw the name, had to comment lol. The bigger, blacker deck, if you will. This is definitely an interesting build. Is there a specific combo in the deck? It's at 65 cards, I feel you could drop the Walking Atlas and be alright. It would probably run a little smoother. Was this just built off of cards you had on hand, or is there a particular goal in mind? I'm just curious, trying to see where you're going with it.
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The beautiful, big, black deck <3 There isn't a combo really. The goal is just to get as many swamps out as fast as possible- that's the function of the walking atlas, to allow for more lands getting out than normal. Basically everything else is just meant to get more powerful the more swamps there are :D That was the idea behind building this deck, I had a slew of cards that got bigger the more swamps I had in play, so I looked for more cards that did that and smashed them together!I would like to pare it down to 60, but I have a hell of a time making decisions >.o so that's why it's at 65 in the first place. I play with a mix of real and proxy cards- I always just play casually, so our gaming group started using proxies a while back to allow for more creativity in our deck building!So, yes, this is one of my most aimless decks. Just swamps. Many, many swamps. And everything else simply builds off of that!
Oh, then you absolutely have to have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in there. That's 100% a requirement. Given the rest of the deck, and the fact that you're playing casual Magic, I would argue that Tormented Soul isn't necessary. It's a 1 drop that you're going to get damage through with, sure, but unless you're beefing him up to be a secret kill condition with some sort of enchantment or artifact, I don't see it really adding much to your deck. How about Gatekeeper of Malakir for a little more bang for your buck as far as mana goes (use the Kicker on him EVERY time, always pay the 3 mana), or Vampire Nighthawk for some survivability (best 3 cost black creature in Magic, hands down, with my boy Phyrexian Obliterator following at best 4 cost black creature).
I don't have anything with swampwalk, so I don't see urborg being much use here!I am not sure whether the Souls will stay- I have a love affair with that card though and I do want to test them out to see how they do :D Otherwise i'll look into something else cheap and fast. I'm just not sure yet what I actually want to have for lower cost stuff. We'll see! Vampire Nighthawk is definitely not a bad idea- they do so well in every deck I have had them in!Phyrexian Obliterator is 100% on board. Especially because of all his black symbols- great for my Erebos! I hope to play a few matches today and see what happens and if I want to make more changes :3 Thanks for the advice! I appreciate all the thoughts. It's hard to see all the angles from just my perspective :P
PSH, scratch that, my partner just pointed out that Urborg will make the Cabal Coffers into Swamps as well :P THERE we go!
That's EXACTLY why I said you needed it lol. That the Nyktos lands can now be tapped for 1 black as needed. You don't need 4 obviously, just 1 or 2.My argument for Nighthawk is like this: where else are you going to find flying, lifelink, deathtouch on a 3 cost black creature? Without additional cards/effects, you won't. It is a fantastic 3 drop. If you were doing this as a vampire tribal sort of deck, I would tell you to throw Vampire Nocturnus in there as well (so good). I had thought Griselbrand was a bit too much for the deck because of his cost and you're not cheating him into play via some other means. Glad to see him there though, he's a baller. Another fun one to consider might be Exquisite Blood, or Painful Quandry. Damage to your opponents causes loss of life (fun fact: damage can be prevented, but loss of life cannot). I can't believe I didn't say this before. I'm a horrible person. Sign In Blood. Good lord is that a godly card in black. Card advantage is king in this game, no matter how you slice it.
For sure!We played a few games last night and made some pretty notable changes to the deck- I am trying to focus more on BIG SCARY CREATURES, and getting them out as fast as possible. We are definitely getting there!And yes, the Tormented Souls are nice, but they just weren't cutting it for what I want, so I am gonna run the Nighthawks and see how they do now :D I do really love that card, it's a staple in my and my partner's decks- it's just SO helpful! Plus one of the art versions totally looks like Peter Steele, so, bonus.Those are all great suggestions as well! More ammo for switching stuff around as this deck evolves, thank you!I am excited to see how this build works as it is now, and I'll have to think about adding some of those other cards. Many thanks!
Some more possible ideas then, since you want more big bad guys:Dread. 6 cmc, 3 of which is black, for a 6/6 Fear, whenever a creature deals combat damage to you, destroy it, and whenever Dread is put into a graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it back into your deck.Exsanguinate. It's a win condition, since you'll probably be able to pay quite a bit into it by the time you use it. 2 black and X to drain your opponents' (all of your opponents) life. There's quite a few demons that might be beneficial as well, I'll namedrop a few and you can check and see if they are any good.Demon of Death's GateIndulgent TormentorDesecration DemonBloodgift DemonReaper from the AbyssLord of the VoidKothophed, Soul HoarderRune-Scarred DemonI hope this is a lot of fun for you to play.
Thanks so much! I will definitely keep all this in mind as I tweak this deck further :D