wandering one drops

sure. post it here and I will put it with the rest, if you want :)

Eventually someone will do golgari.... I'd do it but I like golgari too much to butcher it lol.

meh. that's fine. I don't think that we have to limit ourselves to 1 deck per guild. :) if multiple people want to design a deck for a particular guild... more power to them.

personally I am really thinking about doing an Azorius deck, even though Azorius is the newest addition to the list. (and I was thinking about it before this one was posted.)

You can never have too many azorius decks.... Just saying.

http://www.mtgvault.com/abcdefu96/decks/golgari-dropping-1s/

Ok I made it... I'm actually quite happy with it.

ok, then it goes into the list. :)

http://www.mtgvault.com/abcdefu96/decks/there-can-only-be-1/

Made a goblin 1 drop.

http://www.mtgvault.com/rp24/decks/one-drop-burn/

izzet one drop deck

Not bad. : I shall add it to the list.

Here it is:
http://www.mtgvault.com/northernwarlord/decks/budget-decksone-is-all-i-need/

sweet. added to the list. :)

Looks fun.

http://www.mtgvault.com/dragon77/decks/budget-release-the-hounds/, made this help welcome

soon, everyone will be making these decks.

..........? Lol... actually, we are ALL on top of the hot page. :)
and that would be kind of cool, to see a ton of 1 man decks. it is rather limiting though, so we will see I guess. :)

well im gonna make a boros one soon... or maybe a selesnya...

cool. :) can't wait to see it.

Made one.

http://www.mtgvault.com/magicmaster13/decks/selesnya-1-cmc-deck/

dont exactly know if it is worthy enough to be added to the group yet

well, I can take a look at it.

and now it starts...

This is actually a lot of fun. Here's a rainbow deck: http://www.mtgvault.com/zanmor/decks/golden-grab-bag/

A Shadowborn Apostle themed deck: http://www.mtgvault.com/zanmor/decks/mothdust-demon/
I may try a Dark Depths deck next. Thespian's Stage seems like the best bet, it's just a matter of what to support it with.

added to the list. :)

http://www.mtgvault.com/zanmor/decks/marit-lage-and-one-drops/ A Marit Lage deck for the list.

adding it.

A white human weenie deck would rock. Mother of Runes. Serra Ascendant. Parish of the Champion. Spirit Link. Orim's Chant. So many good cards.

Good luck on finishing it!

champion of the parish, not parish of the champion.

Yeah, yeah. You knew what i meant!

indeed. white humans could do very well. :)

i reckon orzhov humans would be awesome

that would do pretty good as well. :)

That may be the next 1 cmc deck I make

The problem with a white weenie deck like that is it is sooooo expensive to build. Im trying to keep all my drop decks as cheap as i can so they are affordable to most anyone, but im always torn on the really good cards like serras ascendant and mother of runes. Its not an easy deck to build, but once its done it could be great

challenge accepted. although there are no demons for only one mana... so I am not sure that it can be done.

added to the list. :)

A question, does x spells count?

well... it depends. if you have something like Green sun and dryad arbor, then I think it is fine, but something like gridlock then no, I think that it shouldn't count. but exceptions can be made.

And do stuff like Mutagenic Growth and Gitaxian Probe count?

yes. they have a cmc of 1 mana. Phyrexian mana just makes them better because they can be cast for free. :)

http://www.mtgvault.com/necrumlsice/decks/knife/

combo anybody?

added to the list. :)

yeah, that is interesting... Perhaps that is what makes sealed deck formats so much fun? you have to make do with pretty much whatever you have. :)

and for this list, no you don't have to have any particular theme. it can be whatever you want other than the most mana heavy card can only be 1 mana.

What about x spells. Like Banefire. It is considered a one mana card.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&cmc=+=[1]&rating=+%3E[4]&color=+[R]

Someone asked that already. My personal criteria is that if it can be played for only 1 mana and has an actual effect, then it can count, but mot X cost spells have to have at least 1 as X to be useful. Example: Green sun zenith can target 0 mana cards by paying only 1 mana and nothing for X, and therefor can count. but cards like gridlock, fireball or banefire need at least 2 mana to have any effect. and I think based on that criteria, they wouldn't count. but as I said above... exceptions can be made.

I asked the x spell question several times...sorry. As i said, been uber busy lately.

I am being the devil's advocate. I totally agree with you Kazzong. If an x spell cost more than 1 mana...then it is not a 1 mana spell...but TECHNICALLY (lol) Banefire is considered a one mana card. I don't think it should be...and i guess cards like Green sun zenith are why Mtg considers Banefire a one mana card.

It is confusing :) But fun!

Regardless, establishing the rules set in place, i would like to make a red one.

No x spells. It makes it more challenging I will give Kazzong credit for that.

And will also agree that this is a fun concept. And a great idea to play against a local friend! 1 mana deck against another 1 mana deck.

Gets my vote just for the name. That's hilarious!

lol... oh how true that is. :)

I mean, if you aren't running fatty Goblins like Siege and Krenko...Lackey really isn't necessary.

One day I will own 4 copies of Goblin Lackey!!!

that would be really nice... but I don't have extra money like that. :)

That is why I said "one day."
At 10 dollars a piece...ouch, you know?

They're definitely fun, they kind of make other players sore sports in casual though.

dang. looks like merfolk is off to a good start then. :)

Damn 25 dollar Misdirection card gave them the win. Beast played Rancor and Merfolk used Misdirection to change the target of Rancor to the Merfolk's True-Name Nemesis.

I knew money was going to be a factor in the Tournament. It is what it is.

With that said, I think my 20 dollar Cephalid Constable deck could beat any of the Creature Challenge Decks.

You gotta do 2 out of 3 to make it even.

Going to make them all face each other 1 time. It would be more fair, I will agree with you abcdefu96...but it would take weeks and weeks.

There are 12 decks...and for each of those 12 decks to face each other 3 times...yeah...weeks and weeks.

Still might take weeks just facing every creature against the other 11 creatures. Humans vs Zombies are next.

They are under my decks, all titled Creature Challenge.

I've seen a few of them. I'm not surprised that beasts lost to merfolk truthfully. How are you simulating?

What I am doing is majorly flawed. Super flawed. But trying to be fair. I use the Draw Sample feature on here.

I make sure I have at least 2 lands on the opening hand. I open two windows on the computer.
Example. 1 screen is Zombie, draw sample hand.
2nd screen is Human, draw sample hand.
Each of 2 lands in the opening hand.

I get paper, write down the opening hands. And I go from one window screen tab to the next.
Drawing what the Draw Sample Hand shows I would draw.

What is uber flawed is I am playing both sides...but i am trying to be fair and play as I would play IF I DID NOT KNOW the other person's hand. It is especially tricky for Counterspell decks like the Merfolk.

And it is tedious as hell. Like I wrote before, somewhere. 1 game is like 2 hours long. I write out the turns and draw out, at the end of each turn, a picture of what creatures/lands I have on the board. As well as write down what I have in my hand. I have to do that for both decks.

It is interesting, though. Wife is recovering from surgery today. So I have loads of time on my hand.
Now, Humans and Zombies, who do you think have it?

Let me check out the zombie deck real quick then I'll make my prediction.

After checking out both, I'd put my money on humans. Life gain+overwhelming numbers seems like a winning combination.

http://www.mtgvault.com/abcdefu96/decks/outnumbered-goblins/

I'd bet this one would fair top 3.

Hey Jessie have you thought about using cockatrice instead of having to write everything down? I could help you test the decks out and the games would only take 15 minutes instead of a few hours.

^genius idea

What is Cockatrice?

By the way, Humans just got their asses handed to them.

End of turn 8. Zombies had 4 Gravecrawlers out. 2 Gray Merchants. 2 Death Barons. 1 Blood Scrivener. All 3/3 or higher.

Humans with their mother of runes, devout witness, martyr of sand couldn't stand up the graveyard regeneration.

Zombies had 20 life at the end of the game. No contest.

It is a program that allows people to play over the internet. And it has every card ever made in it. :). Or so I am told.

Free? None of them are free...that I know of. They all want money!

Yeah I heard they got a new server that's up and running now. I'll get my Korean friend on this right away! If there's a file to be downloaded out there he'll find it!

P.s. it's not racist because it's true. Koreans own the shit out of the interwebs.

If he finds something I'll share it with you guys.

I know he signed saying he would cease and desist but he offered the code to anyone who wanted to continue the project.

go to www.woogerworks.com and download it from there

https://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-drop-charges-against-cockatrice

Oh...damn Hasbro. Just today, was ranting about Magic being all about money, to Kazzong.

Don't want any part of that.

Pen and paper work just fine. :)

P.S. Plus, I am not Korean...and my computer skills suck. :P

ok sure, whatever suits you

No, i appreciate the advice guys. Don't get me wrong!

Just almost soothing...writing the stuff out, you know? But cockatrice does sound very interesting, and neat.

Boom easier than I thought apparently. Google is a hell of a drug.

Cockatrice is the best for deck testing before GPs, PTQs or WMCQs, I'll be setting mine up and if anyone wants to give me a game just post on one of my decks and we can get a time sorted, or if anyone wants to run my gauntlet they would be very welcome to!

Hold on, where can I download it from? Finding it tough to get to!

go to www.woogerworks.com

thats the one i use, and i've encountered very few problems here

I cant open it, I downloaded the cards and the game but i cant get onto it

why isn't it letting you on?

Sorted, I emailed them, do you want a game?

i can't right now sorry i have to go to school soon, maybe some other time

I'm having the same issue.. It all downloaded, but I can't open the program itself?

email them, they told me how to do it in 10 mins or so

Myrs and thopters.

Will do! But probably not be done until tomorrow. :(

sounds good. Can't wait to hear the outcome. :)

I have a few questions about the Myr deck mechanic...specifically with Myrsmith and Spellbombs interactions...that i need answered...before I can play Myr vs Thopter. But I will play them against each other.

So far I have Merfolk, Dragons, and Zombies having won their first matches.
And have Beast, Vampires, and Humans losing their first matches.

Have learned a little bit about what works and doesn't work. What may need changing or mending with the losing teams.

ok, shoot. I know a bit about myrs, so what are your questions?

With Beast...they have a lot of pure speed to begin with...but seem to fizzle out mid game.
Vampires seem to need more mana ramp to get out Sanguine Bond/Blood Artist.
Humans...lifegain isn't working out as planned...thinking more lifegain spells vs lifegain creatures. Or less 1 drop cards.

sweet. I shall add it. :)

cool. thanks. :) I shall add it to the list. :)

activated abilities are fine, as long as the CMC of the card is 1 or less. buyback or flashback... hmm... not sure. perhaps we can have a vote to see what people think.

Neither one affect the cmc..... I vote for allowing them.

Here is a ruling via http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/ : "Casting a spell using flashback doesn't change the mana cost (or converted mana cost) of the spell. You just pay the flashback cost instead" and "Buyback costs don't count toward a spell's mana cost or converted mana cost, whether they're paid or not." So it definitely doesn't effect the CMC of the spell in these two cases, though it still feels somewhat out of the scope of these decks to me.

yeah, that is kinda how I feel about it too.

I think that kickers are ok, as long as the card can be played normally and still have an effect. bestow... I would say no because it is almost like playing 2 separate cards.

I think if kicker costs are in flashback/buyback should be too. If you kick a creature that cost R with and extra 1R and it comes out a 3/3 or something. It's more like playing a creature that's 1RR and is a 3/3. There's not much difference...

I think id agree on flashback but not buyback since u have to add the buyback cost when u originally play it

it doesn't change a thing actually. the CMC isn't changed with the kicker-multikicker, and are optional to actually cast. but for things like bestow flashback and buyback, it isn't optional. Unless it doesn't cost any mana to use the optional casting cost.

I don't know. Personally I think that any rules discrepancies there should be a community vote.

Well they're all optional costs, my thoughts are if it only costs one mana to cast it then it's a one drop. If you want to kick, buyback or play flashback it doesn't change the cmc of the card. I do however think x cards are kind of cheating unless you can use it with just one mana. Also bestow costs don't change the cmc either.

Ok, they don't change the CM, but if you want to play a card for flashback, then the flashback should only be 1 mana. Buyback shouldn't be extra mana. Kickers... I don't know. E already have decks with those in them. Like I said, I think a bite on the rulings would be good, to see if they are allowed. Or outside you should just not be allowed to play then for the alternate cost etc...

Well I put Bump in the night in the sb of my b/w one drop I just made, but I don't intend on ever using the flashback ability? Though I agree with the buyback and flashback, they don't really fall into place with what you're going for here. At the same time, it's the same for kicker costs. Yeah they're optional, but so are buyback/flashback costs? SO yeah definitely a bit tricky to put a final say on the matter. In my opinion, if one isn't allowed, then the others shouldn't be allowed either since it all technically falls into the same situation.

My two cents on the what should or shouldn't be allowed: The CMC of a card must be no greater than 1 and whenever a spell is cast the cumulative mana cost may not be greater than 1 unless an opponent increases the mana cost.

Hopefully that would make it clear and robust enough to cover flashback, buyback, x mana spells and cards that add increase casting cost, probably making them a no go, thoughts?

cool. I will put it in the list. :)

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are they good?

Not bad. :). I will have to look at them closer, but I just started my work day so it may be a few hours. (lunch break FTW!!!)

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adding it now. :)
that makes 32 now I think.

added to the list. :)

added to the list. :)

Lol... I am fine. certainly not overwhelmed. just um... asleep. I can't update the list if I am not awake. :) time to put up the new decks though.

edit: list updated.

I have put up a few new decks. Just not any I'm the 1 mana format. But I am going to do an Azorius 1 mana deck soon.

What do you want it to do? And are you asking for it to fall Ito the 1 mana rules?

Nope. Because it is 3 mana, I think. I just got overexcited because I had never seen the card before...but as someone pointed out on another deck, it would probably just be very boring. Some sort of 1) play weenies 2) pump up with trample or flying 3)scoop up board.

Maybe it could be used with changeling deck. If there are changeling decks. I may look into making a deck like that, myself. Seems like you would almost want to run 1 or 2 different creatures with changeling in a Tribal deck. Which seems super cheesy and lame. Or maybe best way to play them would be to use, like Goblin Ringleader/Blades of Velis Vel/ or Tribal Instants. Going off on a rant, sorry.

At first, I was just throwing out the idea to anyone, really...to come up with any kind of deck with Mirror Entity...but on second thought...i feel like a douche...because this is your deck. Not mine. Sorry. Got over zealous.

But...i have thought since...it might could work in my Myr deck in Creature Challenge Tourney...maybe...since I took out Genesis Chamber. I splashed with Myrs anyway.

Mirror entity? Boring? Not at all. Avg secondly, I am totally fine with you posting stuff here. It is more of an impromptu forum anyways. I an sure that someone here will take yo your challenge. :). I ab fishing my lunch break but can attempt it after I get off of work if nobody else does it. :)

Could be interesting.
How powerful, what legality, and ballpark cost?

He said mock deck so I'm assuming anything goes?

I might try make a selesnya ramp tokens with it

http://www.mtgvault.com/abcdefu96/decks/look-in-the-mirror/

I decided go Boros with it.

That was quick.

Haha! I try not to over think about card selection. I get an idea and go with it.

And here's mine. It's a little pricey, but it's also pretty typical of decks I usually make:
http://www.mtgvault.com/vikingincarnate/decks/mirror-entity/

Went Esper with it. I wanted to see how it would play with Godhead of Awe

here you go. I want Bant with mine. :)
http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/a-thousand-reflections/

Sammy, it doesn't fit the 1 mana reqs to be on the list. But it does look like a fun deck. :)

What if he only uses the higher drops for bloodrush? Their blood rush cost is 1.

What abcdefu said. It's in the description. If you ever have to actually cast a bloodrusher, you've already lost.

yeah, but it still breaks the rule... :( The cards cannot have a CMC greater than 1.

Very valid point

You're not hurting my feelings, Kazz. I knew it was a fringe case.

Still is a pretty cool deck though. :)

added to the list.

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added to the list.

Yep, that is how it works. Took me over 1000 posts to get a few likes on my decks and 100 points of Reputation.

Comment and get comments. Example. Here is my 1 drop Goblin deck. If you sincerely like it or give advice/support/card suggestions I will try my best to return the favor.

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/1-mana-goblins/

I mana Goblin deck, for you guys to look at.

Have a deck you want me to look at? Link it here, and I will give it my best.

Good luck!

totally agree.

They used to have them. Before the switch to vault 3.0.

Who gets rid of that?! That's madness! I'd rather have clickable links than hovering images of the card. Epic Fail! haha!

Meh. Personally I think it is a minor nuisance, and I am willing to deal with it. Although it WOULD be nice to have back.

Added to the list.

added to the list.

update. added a red card, so this deck is now under 3 color decks as American.

added to the list. :) elves are cool.

added to the list. :)

added to the list.

And, Kazzong, why this deck doesn't have more likes...is beyond me. It has inspired dozens of decks!

Thanks. :) and I don't mind at all for you to do a similar deck series. :). Best of luck. I will certainly made a few for you if you want.

Any specific format? Same rules for flashback, x costs, etc?

Good questions. :) I am curious to knew as well.

I shall build singing for it later today. :)

please make a 1 drop super special awesome deck....plleeassee

You got it, Bud!

http://www.mtgvault.com/tangey/decks/1-drop-super-special-awesome/

Here it is...

Can you please link it here, so I can add it to the list?

http://www.mtgvault.com/hawkblade100/decks/one-opponent-one-mana/

Well dang magic beat me to it :)

Adding more.

Added to the list.

Address to the list.

My bad... Added, not address.

Both added to the list.

Last one I'm going to throw together. This is really fun brewing Kazzong thank you for sharing the idea.

http://www.mtgvault.com/mtgfiend/decks/green-1s-v1/ - Mono-Green deck should be pretty darn fast

Thanks for sharing your decks. :). I am glad that you liked the idea. :). This deck is added to the list.

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Let me take a look at it. :). Thought I added it already but I could be wrong.

Is that MtG Vault glitching again or did this guy actually delete his comments with intent?

I don't know. but I looked at the deck and asked a question but here never answered. he wanted the deck on the list but the only thing for the deck was that it had two multicolored cards from each guild. I would have been happy to put it on the list but I couldn't tell what the deck was designed to do.

I deleted the deck and the comments.

Yeah, and I was kind of curious why you did that. O.o?

added to the list.

Yes it is, he came up with a really good idea.

You can do it too, Pwap, try to come up with an entire deck with only cards that cost 1 mana to play. :)

well, it is supposed to be more of an impromptu hot page for a specific format of decks. :) and you are welcome to post a deck here if you want. it just has to be in the 1 mana format. :) So no cards above 1 CMC. 0 mana cards are fine though. :)

And thank you Jessie, but it wasn't all my idea. KnightoftheHokeypokey had the same concept and originally had the deck links posted on one of his decks. I figured that out would be better to have it not clutter up his comments section and made a separate "deck"for it. So I really didn't do much more than facilitate the creativity of the community. :)

What kind of picked me though is how it has so few views for the amount of comments it has. I do have 1 other deck with almost as many comments, but WAY more views. So... Yeah. Not sure why the funky views to comments ratio.

Hey Kazzong... Just an FYI... Human Chessboard is finished.
http://www.mtgvault.com/jerzeydevyl/decks/human-chessboard/

sweet. I shall take a look at it. :)

Added to the list.

Well first off there is no damage dealt. Just life lost. Which is important because damage prevention cards can't stop it. :). Secondly it is 2 life per card. So you would lose 6 life to burning inquiry. Because it is 2 life times 3 cards. :)
Oh yeah. It stacks of you have more than 1 caress out too. * makes evil grin.*


I love that Combo, in fact I have a deck based around it. It also have underworld dreams and psychosis crawler in it so when they draw they lost life as well. :). Super fun concept.

What about my friend's comment that Liliana's Caress reads:
"Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life."

I just read the rules, and you are right, Kazzong.

But shouldn't the card read:
"Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life for each card discarded."

It doesn't have to. Because "a card" implies that one single card has been discarded. Now if it said "when a player discards cards" that would be different.

You have to be a lawyer, i swear, to understand Magic rules! lol

Yeah, just about. :)

Going to rebuild the deck then, take a look, when you get a chance. It will be the red/black discard one.

Can't wait to see it. :)

Another question, Kazzong. Is there a card that is opposite of The Rack. Black Vise. Rackling?

Or some sort of card like, "Deal 2 damage (or 1, or 3) to your opponent for each card in his hand."

Is there anything like that?

Storm Seeker. Sudden Impact. Sword of War and Peace.

Toil//trouble

Thanks jerzeydevyl and Gothy. Not exactly the colors I am looking for.

I ended up with this deck:

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/douchebag-black-lockdown/

But...i was trying to make my opponent have to keep 7 cards in his hand (he can't play anything)...and then punish him for not being able to get rid of the cards in his hands.

Almost opposite of Black Vise.

Any help is appreciated.

black vise does punish people for having lots of cards in their hand. I am confused.

O wait...crap...now i am confused. I was looking at the card wrong. I am dumb.

you were thinking of cards like the rack or that black enchantment. :)

You mean cards like Ebony Owl Netsuke?

Yeah, I was confused with The Rack and Black Vise.
But yeah, may go with Ebony Owl Netsuke since The Rack is banned. Thanks for the advice, jerzeydevyl.

No prob. Glad I could help. (=

I think that iron maiden is better. and the rack does damage based on your opponent having a small number of cards in hand, not a large number of cards.

Done. As always, thanks for the advice, kazzong!

You know I have made a few decks lately, that need help. Hint. Hint. :)

yeah... I shall look at them. :) been busy the past few days.

cool I shall add it to the list.

adding it to the list now. :)

Thanks, I will do the same.

well, swap out the bear and I can add it to the list.
Props on finding a 1 mana commander, and a 2 colored one at that. :)

Rhys the redeemed right?

yup, you are correct. :)

Bear be gone and let Champion of the Parish take your place in battle. Sorry my phone hates this website and Some times it auto selects creatures when I make my deck on it.

Here's one I seen a while back, I didn't have any part in making it but I figured I'd share it.

http://www.mtgvault.com/rydon99/decks/one-drop-edh/

Great. Then it shall be added to the list. :)