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I am running 4 Soulfire Grand Master in this deck.Has anyone seen this beast? Already 20 dollars and it isn't even out yet!It gives your instant and sorcery spells lifelink.Wait, did you read that right? It does what?!It gives your instant and sorcery spells lifelink.Are you freaking kidding me? Now Lightning Helix, for 2 mana, does 3 damage and gains you 6 life!!!Now Lightning Bolt, for 1 mana, does 3 damage and gains you 3 life!!!Boros Charm, for 2 mana, does 4 damage and gains you 4 life!!!Browbeat with Soulfire Grand MasterYour opponent either lets you draw 3 cards or you gain 5 life and he loses 5 life!Greatness. Soulfire Grand Master with Anger of the Gods is going to nuke your opponent's creatures and gain you 3 life per creature!Holy Crap Balls! And she is only 2 mana!!Oh yeah, she can buyback her spells!
Win Condition #1 Soulfire Grand Master and spells.Simply throw down Soulfire and play spells to destroy your opponent while gaining life. See Deck Description for examples. Win Condition #2Monastery Swiftfoot and spells. While you are playing all of your spells, might as well have a creature that benefits from it, right? Every time you cast an instant/sorcery Swiftfoot is going to be able to attack for 2 damage. *********************************************************************************Orim's Thunder for artifacts and enchantments your opponent has. With Soulfire, the Orim's Thunder gains you life. Serra Ascendant will be a great mid game 5/5 flyer for 1 mana. She has lifelink just like Soulfire Grand Master, so she will also gain you masive amounts of life. Browbeat for drawing power.Your opponent will definitely let you draw 3 cards instead of losing 5 life and you gaining 5 life with Soulfire. Sacred Foundry for your non basic land. Losing 2 life is nothing to all the lifegain you have.
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Is just ridiculous with anger of the gods. Geez
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Kind of reminds me of massacre wurm, except instead of your opponents losing life you gain life.
dont forget about deadly with blasphemous act netting 13 life per creature if its abused in modern
Earth quake?
can i just say that i love arcbond. its a great board wipe for red. it has potential to deal way more dmg than anger and if you target a life linker you gain tons of life -the dmg you initially took. plus its a way to draw a match multiple times before time runs out lol. anyways, if you can, check out my standard version of this http://www.mtgvault.com/imementomori/decks/grand-mentor-of-the-monastery/
Shivan Meteor + Soulfire Grand Master = Fun
blasphemous act + soulfire grand master + sanguine bond/ exquisite blood
takes waaaaaaaaaay too long to set that up. its not worth it at all
Im going to try and vamp this deck up for modern play.
Here is the finished product! http://www.mtgvault.com/splooge/decks/boros-lifeburn/
You need more life gain cards, you'r relying on lightning helix to do the job for Serra ascendant and rox faith mender, plus the deck would be better with more life gain so I would put in some kitchen finks and martyr of sands to do the job. Otherwise the deck is pretty well don but if you want some more ideas for life gain check out my deck "ultra lifegain(WOW)"
He's counting on the Soulfire Grand Master for the life gain. It comes out in Fate Reforged. It's a 2/2 for 1W creature and it gives all your instants and Sorcery spells lifelink.
It makes me have 25 spells/cards that gain life. Should be plenty.
And failing to read deck description wins the day lol
I've been thinking Deflecting Palm may come in useful with Soulfire Grand Master.
What would you reduce to fit it in?
-2 disenchant
Disenchant is my only card against artifacts/enchantments. Will reduce it by one...and find another card to reduce too.But yeah, Deflecting Palm is very nice with Grand Master. Nice catch!
Use Orim's Thunder instead of Disenchant, then you don't need to cut them.
Nice call! Switching it now.
this card is likely not actually a $20 card....that price is nothing but prerelease hype. The deck looks fine, as long as you can keep your guy alive. I think you would be better off running a basic RW burn list with this guy in the sideboard.
Smart fellow. Indeed, it is the hype.As stated elsewhere, on another deck, I believe it will hover around 10 dollars in about 3 months.It is purely the uniqueness of the card that is making it valued around 20-25 dollars. Once people see that there is little room for it in Tourneys and that it is only a good Casual card, it will plummet in price. TCG Player has it at 25, right now. Troll and Toad has it as 20, pre-order price. If he doesn't stay alive, I have Guttersnipe as a backup.True, this deck could of been done better. But I wanted to make the deck before anyone else noticed Soulfire Grand Master.In late Feb/early March you will see 100 Grand Master red/white/blue decks. I promise. I just wanted to try and do it first. I have been struggling to be original, of late.
yay for soulfire grand master! its an awesome card
I disagree, Jessie. It will completely replace Seeker of the Way in Jeskai and possibly even find it's way into Mardu. Just for that alone, the price will be $10. With it's uniqueness and possible brokenness, it could very well find it's way into Modern as well. If that happens, I suspect many people would have wished they would have bought it when it was only $20. You never know though. Magic economics is a very fickle and confusing thing.
Very true, very true. We will see.
Blasphemous act plus soulfire grand master is craaaazyyyy.
ha ha ha 13 damage to all creatures gain 13 life for all the damage dealt that is a game winner
bonfire of the damned is even crazier
In a deck with Soulfire and a bunch of small creatures, absolutely. Would be something like:Mana ramp (red)Free creatures (kobolds, memnite, ornithopter, shield sphere, phyrexian walker)Soulfire Grand Master. 3 Memnite3 Ornithopter3 Phyrexian Walker3 Shield Sphere3 Seething Song3 Blasphemous Act3 Shivan Meteor 3 Pact of Negation (used to counterspell your opponent's spell after you cast Blasphemous Act) 4 Soulfire Grand Master4 Mask of Law and Grace (to protect Grand Master)4 Akroma, Angel of Wrath (protected from Red, once Blasphemous Act nukes the board, Akroma is left alive to destroy your opponent) 24 Lands. That is the rough idea.*******************************************************************************************************Better yet, friends.Cancel out all the free creatures and add in nothing but creatures with protection from red!!4 Burrenton Forge-Tender4 Auriok Champion4 Crimson Acolyte (also gives protection to Soulfire Grand Master)4 Soulfire Grand Master3 Akroma, Angel of Wrath3 Seething Song3 Shivan Meteor 3 Blasphemous Act3 Pact of Negationetc etcYou get the idea.Lots of people are going to be making some decks very soon.
I raise your blasphemous act with a comet storm that has been beefed up on seething songs and rite of flame!!!
You friends, get the idea.
u realize that blasphemous act would kill grand master
Crimson Acolyte? Or Brave the Elements. Or something else. Happy New Year.
Act would kill Grand Master, but that hardly matters if youre casting Act for (r), that means there are 12 creatures on the board, and you would be gaining 156 life, wiping the opponents board, and likely following up with more creatures, so I dont see how pointing out that your 2/2 dies is relevant, Anomaly
You ever thought about Blasphemous Act plus Boros Reckoner?
Yep. Good stuff.
That used to be a deck build back when ravnica and innistrad were in standard. It's rather effective
Jeskai and Temur are getting insane power boosts in Fate Reforged. Have you seen Monastery Mentor??? My lord Jesus...
Making a deck for it as we speak
Post it here, please :)
http://www.mtgvault.com/drakeraenes/decks/monastery-madness/
Bam! Deck for monastery mentor!!
Young Pyromancer 2.0
Lol basically
Here's my build for both Mentor and Soulfire. http://www.mtgvault.com/dhamlin/decks/jeskai-mentor/
very cool. :) although I have to say that guttersnipe is totally not overpowered here. :)on a serious note...chain lightning is kinda an odd choice I think. if your opponent is playing red at all they will probably just hit guttersnipe with it. I would suggest swapping it for blazing salvo, or spark jolt (for the scry). Love browbeat though. :)
^apparently doesnt know how to play Chain LightningYour comment should read "chain lightning sucks if your opponent is playing red AND isnt doing anything the whole game"you play chain lightning when they dont have RR to return it....theres a reason its a $14 sorcery speed Lightning Bolt.
No, Kazzong does have a point. I didn't even think about opponent playing red! :(Will have to be careful when playing it. Thanks for the heads up, Kazzong!
yes, there is a danger in an opponent having red, but its irrelevant, if you arent a terrible player. as long as theyre trying to play Magic, you will have windows to cast it with no retribution.
Yes, especially since this deck has so many alternatives. Use something else when the opponent happens to have RR open.
Spark Jolt though? 1 mana for a damage and a scry? Sounds like a waste of space, i'd be using magma jet, and would soulfire work with volcanic fallout?
Yes it would. You would get 2 life for each creature it deals damage to and each player. Also I agree about the mana jet over spark jolt. The extra scry is uber helpful and 2 damage is better than 1
I don't think that's exactly how Soulfire Grand Master works. I think what it means when it says "Instant and sorcery spells you control have lifelink" Is referring to Instants and sorcery's you manifest as face down 2/2's not the actual spells them selves.
no, I don't think that would make any sense with how it is stated on the card. MTG is very picky about how things are worded.Soulfire Grand Master states that instants and sorceries you control gain lifelink. which essentially means that for each single point of damage they cause, you gain that much life.Cards don't have to be creatures to deal damage, nor do they have to be permanents for them to be under you control. :)so I think that this deck is the PERFECT way to use Soulfire Grand Master. Or at least the closest you could get without blue. :)If Wizards had wanted to make it only apply to the cards that you put out with Manifest, then they would have put something like this:Face down creatures you control gain lifelink.That would make more sense to me.
Yeah, Kazzong is correct here. Manifest Instant and sorceries are not instants or sorceries when they are manifested, they are creatures.
Guttersnipe damage will NOT gain you life! Just wanted to say that since your description seems to imply otherwise.
It is my crappy grammar. Guttersnipe will only provide extra damage and a small win condition until I can get out Soulfire Master.
Guttersnipe should be Swiftspear, or the new Prowess token maker.
Which one would you prefer? I can change it :)I figured, during the deck making process, that I had 27 instant/sorcery cards for Soulfire Grand Master.I thought, "How can I use those 27 spells as a second win condition?"I concluded Guttersnipe. He will benefit from 27 different cards (31 if you include Soulfire) in the deck. 27 cards Soulfire can use and 27 cards Guttersnipe can use. Two win conditions. Meaning, if I don't get Soulfire I still have a chance to win with Guttersnipe.If I don't get Gutternsipe, I can still win with Soulfire. Swiftspear, as I see it, is not a win condition by herself. A token maker like Prowess token maker or Young Pyromancer could, in theory, work. But this deck is more focused on doing direct damage via spells...not creatures.
see, youre wrong. Swiftspear is absolutely a win condition by herself, because of Prowess, which makes the new guy even moreso.
It is close to the same, friend. You might etch out a few more damage with Swiftspear (especially early game) vs Guttersnipe.
Swiftspear comes down 2 turns earlier, and doesnt eat your whole turn to play on turn 3. If you play guttersnipe on turn 3, have no one to swing with, and it just dies when they untap, you have effectively Time Walked yourself, when instead you could have played Swiftspear, swung, and double bolted for 9 total.
Will switch.
I block with a 1/1 deathtouch and kill your game ender.
Agreed. I am iffy about Guttersnipe vs. Swiftspear. You are right Kazzong. What would you go with?
you dont get the chance to block with your 1/1 deathtoucher, because this deck has instant speed burn in it.....seriously, get out of magical christmasland and honestly evaluate this situation.
I think that while Swiftspear isn't bad, it isn't nearly as good as you are making it to be. I think that it is far easier to prevent combat damage from a creature than non-combat damage. so it may be able to swing for a bit more at a time than guttersnipe, but easier to deal with. just because a creature can be pumped easily doesn't mean that it is invincible, even with burn support.Burn is simple enough to deal with some protection or counter cards. I am not living in a magical Christmasland. But perhaps you are in thinking that burn is the be all end all in magic?Counter burn, or spot removal would both be plenty to prevent damage from Swiftspear.
Jessie, in answer to your question, I would say that I think guttersnipe would be more... consistent, but Swiftspear could take bigger chunks of life at a time.however I feel that Swiftspear is a bit out of place in a deck based around non-combat damage.in the end though it is your call. :) whichever you think would work better is what you should put in.
I dont understand the disconnect here. First of all, if Guttersnipe were as consistent as you claim, it would have seen play competitively during its standard lifespan. It didnt. Swiftspear is currently seeing competitive play in THREE formats, in this exact type of deck. No, I do not think Burn is the "be all end all" (even though I finished in the top 5% of a Modern GP with RW Burn:-)) but it is the key component in THIS deck. You want to talk about damage prevention? How does Guttersnipe beat a Leyline of Sanctity? are you going to Lightning Bolt yourself so you can get 2 damage across? Ultimately, I dont care what ends up in THIS deck, I am just informing about what I would play in MY deck (Goblin Guide, but whatev)
I would personally put the swiftspear out, throw the guttersnipe in the sideboard. Then I would put in Young Pyromancer. A) It gives you extra life via Pyroclasm and Anger of the gods + Soulfire. B) It gives you blockers. You can throw a lightning bolt at one attacker, gain 3 life, and you have a sudden blocker. They thought they could hit you for 10+, and ended up losing a creature, use a 1/1 meat shield on their, say, 5/5, and suddenly you gained 6 or more life. That provides a huge disturbance. It also works well with one/two mana burn spells.Also, using Young Pyromancer gives you tokens to ATTACK with if the situation requires it. Even if they are playing Leyline of Sanctity, you still can hit them with creatures and have a chance to win the first game. Then you could sub in the Guttersnipe to LOVE THE CARD. PRE-ORDERING AT LEAST A SET OF 4 OF THE SOULFIRE.Please tell me if you have any clarifications, or would like to explain why you have a different opinion,MillsTheName
Please, please, please don't pre-order the card!!I promise you she will go down half in price, in about 3-6 months. She will go from 20-25 to 10-15 dollars. No clarifications. I hear you with Young Pyromancer. Sounds very solid. And probably a good choice for this deck. Swiftspear vs Guttersnipe vs Pyromancer seems to be the argument floating around. I think it depends on personal taste and what you are trying to pull off. Why do I have Swiftspear in? Good question? lolNo, it is mainly because she is a sure fire way to deal damage, for the most part. 1st turn with haste, and constantly being pumped up with the spells being cast. Or at least a way to force my opponent to answer to her while I keep casting 1 and 2 cmc spells on them.
Yeah once the hype dies down she will drop a lot. Our she might go up depending on what modern and legacy do with her. Same goes for monastery mentor. It's a gamble really either way
Tokens and Stoke the Flames with Grand Masters buyback looks painful in standard and modern.UR burn splashing W seems like it would benefit the most by recycling draw spells to fuel the burn or even set up a soft lock with hard counters while say a Delver or Young Pyromancer does the dirty work...?
I agree :)
Ajani Pridemate plus soulfire could get stupid fast.
Indeed. Lots of cards combo with Soulfire.
Searing Meditation :)
Another nice card for this deck!Or a red/white deck with Soulfire.
did you see the new card a white 2 colorless of a 2/2 prowess and whenever you cast a non-creature spell put a 1/1 with prowess onto the battlefield also from FRF
Yes, I did. Lots of uses for it too.
Already made a deck for it. Link is above
If you did go r/w/u, electrolyze and delver wouldn't be bad choices. For just r/w though, maybe some vexing devils or/and rift bolt?
Neither vexing devil or rift bolt will be good here
How wouldn't they? Vexing is good in literally anything red. As for rift, it gets suspended after casting it, so how isn't that good?
Vexing devil looks good, but if it's a turn one cast then pretty much anyone will take the four disagree to keep your field free of blockers. As for rift bolt, suspend sounds great, but all it does is give your opponent a turn or more to prepare for it, whether that be a counterspell or what have you. Point is, they aren't as good as they are cracked up to be
Vexing Devil is only "good" in Modern Mono Red Burn, and that deck isnt very good, competitively. Devil is, for some reason, a casual all star, though, so I can see why you would think it would fit here. Rift Bolt is a functional Lightning Bolt, and if you want to waste a counterspell on a 3 damage spell, by all means, there are 21 more where that came from. Rift Bolt is played in both Modern and Legacy, so I feel like Drake's analysis is wrong.
Didn't realize rift bolt saw play in competitive formats, so my bad in that one. As for vexing devil, I was looking at it from a competitive point of view, so that was my reasoning for what I said
Casual play is the only reason Vexing Devil is holding value right now. last I saw it was something like $8, which is crazy, but there are more casual players than all of the organized formats combined, so it makes sense
Yep in agreement here as well. Devil is pretty much only good in a mono red burn deck, something that gives your opponent a choice is generally a downfall. (Tho played with torpor orb out it will always be a creature) Rift Bolt however is great, It's a 3 for 1 spell with no downfall, which is as good as your gonna get.
This card is a game changer.
Doubt it changes tourneys much.But casual players, like myself, will love it.
yeah this wont see much play in tournies. the other guy, Monastary Master or whatever, hes gonna be dumb in competitive. this guy doesnt do enough, but its a fun ability
I'm just saying for the fact that with this card, you could play a W/R lifegain deck that's just stupid fun to play. Monastary Mentor is going to tear some stuff up though. it's a Young Pyromancer on crack.I personally would run him in an Abzan deck. +1/+1 counters galore.
Couple things mentioned on here would be blast act if its cheap and you back it with a charm you just wipe their board and gain a bunch of life could drop one anger of the gods. Also why not figure of destiny over swiftspeaker? Would give you a good beater and finisher if you can't manage to stick your guy and a mana sink (early as you could sink mana into "buyback" later) if you'd rather wait on your damage if you don't have him out. Then if you're gaining so much life why not run 8 fetch lands (mesa and tarn) and the 4 shock lands (or more allow yourself blue for sideboard if you want) to thin your deck? Lastly if you go that route and run figure maybe a couple mistveil plains to keep your fuel coming?As you can tell I had been already looking into a build for this but this deck is up so i'll just follow this one!
Your idea sounds very solid.Build it and post it here.This deck, glad it made it to the hot page because Soulfire deserves attention, was more of a "let me build it before everyone else does" type of deck. Not really wanting to change so many cards, as you mentioned. You speak of changing 20 or so cards, in this deck. I will support your version if you post it. Thanks for commenting!
Mine would really only change about 6 honestly unless your talking lands?http://www.mtgvault.com/ktrojan/decks/soulfire-grand-master/Edit: I lied I'd run fireblasts too for the win but you get the idea that was made in like a min off of yours.
Fireblast.As stated in other places, I have won more Games with Fireblast than all other cards combined.Fireblast, especially in mono red decks, wins you the game! Yep, I was including the lands. Going now to look at your deck.Fyi, EVERY time I see Fireblast in a deck, it is an automatic +1. I just love the card that much. And I am sure your deck will be better, especially considering the Fetch Lands. I just never run them. It irks me that people have 1,000 dollar decks and 800 of it is in lands. Or 500 dollar decks and 400 of it is lands. I am glad they reprinted them, hopefully it made the prices cheaper.
Yes the prices of all the fetches have DRASTICALLY lowered.What with them being re-printed in Khans of Tarkir as well as Fate Reforged it's taken off some of the burden from the Zendikar fetches previously those were the only ones legal in Modern so they demanded a higher price.But with the re-release of the Onslaught fetches everything across the board has came into a more balanced state and with the Zendikar fetches almost being locked into the Modern Masters 2015 print in a few months prices will continue to fall but not by much. Get them while they're cheap or you WILL regret it later.
JessiiiiiieeeeeHoooowl of the Hooorrdeee!3x the goodness!This chick could also be a good friend for Narset.
Awesome. Fun. I think flame rift would be very good, and imperial recruiter so you can fetch the grand master, and when monastery mentor comes out, if it isn't to expensive, it would kill so many decks all by itself. I have not been on the vault for a while because my computer battery broke. :)
Balefire Liege, Balefire Liege right now!
Great idea!
Thanks for making this deck viewed. Sorry if I am not taking every single persons suggestions to change my deck. More than anything I just wanted Soulfire to get attention. I encourage everyone to make a deck around Soulfire.
She could probably make a solid commander.
If it were legendary sure lol
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I've just done a similar thing with Monastery Master, and oh my God its good! In the already powerful Jeskai shell, it just is awesome, check it out http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/monastery-mentor-mad-monks/
u just shock the hoe. ajanis pridemate, archangel of thune. would be nice add on
i seriously dont see the win condition here especially in modern.
For starters it's a vintage/legacy casual deck when you consider that he's running Chain Lightning and Orim's Thunder.(both are not modern legal) and Soulfire Grand Master will surely allow him to get a few wins as the main win condition with Serra Ascendant.
Ajani's pridemate isn't that great in a deck like this, one that would get big chunks of life at once, because it only gets a +1/+1 counter each time you gain life. If it had the mechanic of Sunbound where you get a +1/+1 counter for how much life you gain it would be awesome. Barrage of boulders would be a good one to boost Pridemate.
All of my decks are casual. Mostly Legacy/Vintage. Most of my decks are meant to win about half of the games it plays IF I am playing another Casual Legacy/Vintage deck around the same price.
I must say, you're gonna need Soulfire Grand Master when she comes out!
That is why the deck has 56 cards in it. 4 spots for Grand Master :()
My standard as of now. http://www.mtgvault.com/ktrojan/decks/prowess-these-funky-monkies/
Need deck ideas?then....Make a: Akki deckLegendary creature only deck5 dollar deck Infect commander deck100 card standard deckEldrazi-artifacts deckinstant only deck5 color standard deckPlanswalker only deckA deck for each setA deck based on a historical eventSamuri vs knights deckA black deck without any spot removalDecks using useless cards that somehow workGoblin Non-budget Very strong Standard Beat down deckMono red or green draw deck.Thinking over..............
I will definitely do a few of those.
Ahhh! Some of those sound fun! Might try the historical one.Jesse! Check out my new deck, too! :3
Put titans strength in here
Maybe not enough creature base for it to be extremely useful.
Titan Strength is actual trash here......the only thing it enables is rare turn 2 9 damage plays, and those dont happen very often in dedicated Swiftspear decks....
You need to run other spells like brute strength, and even then it's still a gamble
blasphemous act would be ridiculous in this deck also you should try adding some cards as proxies for soul fire
Indeed. And Shivan Meteor.
I'm not sure why but I want to blend this with Sanguin Bond.
It could be done :)
Blightning... you take 3 damage and discard a card, I gain 3 life, you lose 3 life.
Fire covenant. I pay all but one life, damage a bunch of creatures and my opponent, then gain all that life back!
Yep, you guys got it.
OK, so I didn't get Sanguin Bonds in, it's just too slow. Here's what I did get thoughhttp://www.mtgvault.com/andarious/decks/mardu-grandmaster/
Consider Training Ground to take advantage of SFGM's activatd ability?
Lots of people will be running red/white/blue with Soulfire.
Consider Blasphemous act, if you think anger of the gods is good...
Already thought of.And Shivan Meteor. Yep. Good stuff. I think Anger of the Gods is much faster for a burn deck. The card company I get all of my cards at, TrollandToad, I even left a comment about Soulfire Grand Master:"What a card! I love it and would like to have 4 of them! Red/white burn decks with stuff like Blasphemous Act and Shivan Meteor will get great use from Soulfire Grand Master!" Jessie
I actually left more of a review telling people to not buy the pre-released Soulfire because I thought it would plummet in price over the next 6 months....and TrollandToad being a card seller...they marked out/removed that part of my review. lol. It gave me a great laugh this morning.
Living in the EU I have a better place to buy cards but the shipping price would skyrocket for you I assume.Soulfire is half the price shown on that site.
Yeah. Soulfire is around 25 dollars everywhere I see in the USA.TCG has it valued at over 20 dollars.Troll and Toad has it at around 23 dollars. The shipping from EU to here would skyrocket the price. I like TrollandToad because they let me sale them my cards that I never use for Store Credit. Example: I sell them 30 dollars worth of cards that they want...and they give me 40 dollars store credit to purchase cards I actually use. Sure...they are only buying my cards for about 30-40 percent of their actually cost. But why do I care? Why do I care if I lose money on a card that has been sitting in my card collection, unused, for 10 years? Example: I sell them a card valued at 15 dollars for only 8 dollars. Sure...I lose 7 dollars in the deal...but if I never used that 15 dollar card for over 10 years...it has just been sitting there collecting dust...and going to waste. Now, with that 8 dollars store credit I can actually buy cards that I will use. And someone else can buy the 15 dollar card and actually use it. Example of how they rock.I had 7.79 in store credit from them.I needed 3 Argothian Wurm and 4 Dimir Machinations.They had them for sale, with shipping costs, for 8.02.I lacked 23 cent from being able to buy the 7 cards.I send them an email, today, telling them that I was 23 cent short.What do they do? They tell me to go ahead and buy the 7 cards...and they would just pay the extra 23 cent anyways.So...instead of me worrying about someone else buying the cards before I could...they simply lost 23 cent on the deal and let me buy the 7 cards before they went out of stock again. Lots of people tell me how I am being ripped off from TrollandToad.And they are probably right...but they are a good company.Another example.I bought my wife a Jean Grey/Dark Phoenix figurine, Heroclix, for christmas.I paid 5 dollars for it.It came in the mail and the figurine was in excellent condition but they playing card that came with it was bent.I complained to them.Guess what they did? Instead of saying, "Oh well, you sent us 5 dollars already and it is too late" they actually resent another figurine and card!!!They sent another 5 dollar figurine/card AND they paid for the shipping!You can't beat that.
One more example.I hadn't ordered anything from them or played magic in 10 years.I get back in touch with them and sell them about 60 dollars worth of cards.I got my store credit for 50 dollars and say what the hell?!I got irate. I say, it was suppose to be 60 dollars not 50 dollars!!!And they tell me, rightly so, that it was 60 dollars if ALL THE CARDS were in Mint condition, and some of the ones I sold them were not in mint. Therefore, they could not give me 60.I tell them, in not nice words, that I would not order from them anymore.Guess what they did? They give me the full 60 dollars, in store credit, AND EVERY card I have sold them since they rated Mint condition.And I know, 100 percent, some of the cards I sold them were not Mint Condition.So...they have bought cards from me at Mint prices and have had to sell them to other people for non mint prices. And yet they have had no problems doing so! What other company will do that?I sure as hell would not buy, for example, 4 Gobin Guides from you at my Mint Condition pricing knowing the cards were not Mint! But they do.
Not doubting they are a bad company or anything. Just In america I can only find prices of $22+ for this card in Europe stores I see it for which equates to $14... Big difference.
That is a big difference.And I wonder why there is a difference to begin with.It is interesting.I wonder if you guys have the reverse on some cards.I wonder if there are 15 dollar cards, in USA, that are 30 in EU.
I have only recently discovered this site so I am unsure. I used to order from America because despite the shipping cost it came to cheaper than ordering from England so I do compare America - Europe often and as of yet Europe is slightly ahead.
When is mtgvault actually gonna let us use FTR cards in our decks? My urge to post new standard decklists is killing meee
Gonna have to wait until the sweet goes live. That's how it always is
Yep. I have a few ideas, too.
Whyyy I can't wait
Anybody else wanting to do shenanigans with Soulflayer? Blue/Black to mill yourself til you hit a Chromanticore or Gurmag Swiftwing... pop out a baddie for BB!Or U/W Heroic with the new Cloudform? Finally, affordable hexproof!
The new Monastery Mentor is my choice. 2/2 with prowess for 3 that poops 1/1 prowess tokens? Sweet baby jebus I'm going to build Naya tokens now.Purphoros + Monastery Mentor + Hordeling Outburst and/or Raise the Alarm? And green for ramp with chord of calling and hornet queen. It'll take tweaking, but damnit Imma doing it.
The first bit of what you said sounds great, in fact it was very similar to Chapin's plan, but a 7 drop in an aggro deck is a bad idea, W/R heroic/ tokens is far more powerful than putting in green with difficult mana costs!
Now the question is, toss in some crusade guys for the heck of it? I think you can do this mono-white if you build it right. Token gen and a bunch of +1/+1 effects, enough deck space to spare for a good removal package.
You can do, but red just makes the deck better, as you can utilise burn, you can get back hordling outburst and you get chained to the rocks, you might evenbe able to run akroan crusader and add a little heroic undertone!
Gothy is right. I run a green white auras heroic and it's baller. The only reason I didn't go for red over green was because I had more in the favor of green at the time, like Ajani, mentor of heroes. Plus green has its fair share of nasty spells right now,
The best heroic right now is blue though, because it has ordeal of thassa and can change the gear with counters and unblockable
Indeed. Combine that with Thaumaturge and it's all sorts of fun
No you don't want to be running thaumaatage, it doesn't get bigger when u trigger heroic and has 1 toughness
Yah I know. Just thinking about if you had living plane out and used something like gridlock to tap down all their mana
I would of thought he is talking standard, I'm not sure mentor will make it into modern
Fair point. I'm a casual player so I usually don't care about format all that much
Oh fair enough, I'm pretty tournament-centric but if you want to mash someone's head (there are those players that need it!) come have a look at the modern decks I make
http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/entire-deck-of-legendary-cards/You guys mind checking that one? Please. Tit for tat. I will check one of your decks out in return if you post it here. It is a concept deck.Lands included, EVERY card is Legendary. I think I did the best I could...considering there are no Legendary Instant or Sorcery cards.
No Blasphemous Act? 13 Damage to every creature is easy 100+ lifegain midgame, most likely for 1 mana.
Nope. I wanted it more aggro...less lifegain. But I have suggested the card to others and have others suggest it to me. Thanks for the advice.
Buddy showed me this so I made an account on here. Nice deck!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
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I would just like to point out the combo I managed in prerelease.Jeskai tokens, get 8 attacking creatures, easier than it sounds, cast dragon rage, get a red mana for each attacking creature and give them firebreathing for three, activate soulfire's ability, get dragon rage back and cast it again, still have 1 mana. Suddenly infinite mana for infinite firebreathing.
the buyback for SGM is 4, the CC of DR is 3...thats a total of 7 CMC. you are making 8 mana.......sure, you can go infinite during combat in your scenario, but you cant pump until you pool a good amount of mana, because you are only netting (r) each time you do this......
It's not much obviously, but for a sealed release that's not bad. Not likely to happen much in an actual competitive match, but hey you never know. I personally think Dragon rage will be rather popular for a long while
it works well with Grand Master + Instant, but it doesnt really do anything, since the mana has to be used in combat. Its the kind of card that could be very popular casually, but unless the tournament scene gets a very good mana sink, there is just no reason to play it
Humor me on this one. You have a deck like mardu that is all about getting in the other players face quickly. It wants to have lots of creatures out and attacking. Nite if you attack and have more creatures than an opponent, then they can only stop some but not all. That's where dragon rage comes in. You use it in one of the unblocked attackers and get in a large bit of damage for three it works well with all three of the clans that have red in them and will work especially well in red aggro as a backup plan. I think dragon rage will see lots of competitive play
It works really well with Prowess as well as Young Pyromancer and Kiln Fiend.
It does. Monastery mentor too
like, I understand how it works, it just doesnt seem good enough to take up 4 slots in a "real" deck. if youre making that many tokens, youre likely winning anyways, and theres no reason fr a cutesy combo kill. at 3 mana, this card sees 0 play competitively. Its a gute trick, and might be better than Trumpet Blast effects for the exact scenario you detailed, but even trumpet blast was relegated to the sideboard of mono red aggro..
I kinda agree, but I can see it possibly getting some mainboard action. Maybe not a 4 of, but a little action
Hey man hows it going? I havnt been on here much lately so i thought id let ya see what ive been working on. http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/bruised-and-broken/got a few others but i havnt gotten em far enough for show.
Checking it out now.
You do realize you can add Fate Reforged cards to your decks on here right?
Fixed it. They just put Fate Reforged on today.
I'd replace browbeat with book burning. More damage and cheaper mana cost.
It is more damage and cheaper mana...but how fast this deck is and how low the mana curve is, I desperately need cards that let me draw cards so that I do not run out of cards in my hand before my opponent is dead.
And the obvious of course: With Book Burning the oppoenent just mills himself for six and no damage is dealt. Nothing if importance happened.
Just throwing this out there that cone of flame might be a good card to use as well, its a total of 5 damage, one damage to target creature player, two damage to target creature player, and then 3 damage to target creature player, a lot of damage spread across the board and you gain life from all of it. I pulled my first soulfire grand master from a pack in the prerelease and using it has been really fun let me tell you
Wish I had a copy of Soulfire!Lucky.
For five mana you could cast Boros charm and three lightning bolts at four targets for a total of 13 damage and lifegain. Cone of flame isn't really good here
Okay guys and gals. Here is a challenge for you. I get my tax return in a few weeks. Already filed them. And...I am getting a shit ton of money back!I am embarrassed to even say the amount. Let us say that I have spare money coming up to buy a deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/please-make-my-goblin-deck/That link takes you to a list of 35 Goblins that I own. Valued at 200 dollars. Lots of key/good Goblins. Guides, Instigators, Warchiefs, Kings, Matron, Siege, Krenko, etc. Here is the challenge: I want to make a really damned good Goblin Deck. I want everyone to help. On top of those 35 Goblins I have 100 to 150 USA dollars to buy any card to make the deck. Might even could afford something like 4 Goblin Lackeys or 1 or 2 Aether Vials or 1 or 2 Goblin Piledriver. Looking for the deck to be Legacy/Vintage, around 300-350 total cost. So far I am most loving the idea of using:3-4 Goblin Lackey3-4 Warren Instigator3-4 Siege Gang Commander3-4 KrenkoAnd simply overrunning my opponent with Krenko Tokens. Something like: Turn 1. Goblin LackeyTurn 2. Use Lackey to cheat in KrenkoTurn 3. Use Lackey to cheat in Siege, tap Krenko 6 1/1 Goblins.Turn 4. Either Goblin Chieftain or Goblin Warchief, tap Krenko for more tokens, win the game. YippieBut anything is up for grabs. I can even do a fancy Aether Vial Goblin deck!
I was going to mention guttersnipe but as i saw is already been mentioned i have a few goblin decks in my public lists that you might take a look at red and red black, i havnt done a black goblin deck yet but it might be something for me to think about. ive even done an edh or two. http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/goblin-burn-revamped/http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/br-goblin-deck/http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/goblin-budget-deck/http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/goblin-edh/
Thanks. Will check them out.
If i was in your place I would blow that money on universally useful staples instead. Most of the goblins you buy will not going to be useful in anything else than that gobo deck. And since you are not selling cards online, you will have a hard time trading the cards for something else later when the gobo deck begins to bore you.
http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/list-of-stamples-you-decide/There you go old friend. Help me start a list. That goes for everyone else too. I have about 150 dollars I can spend. Doesn't sound like much when you consider a playset of Daze is 13 dollars. But 150 dollars, to splurge, is a lot to me. So...please...go check out the link. I have about 3 weeks until I get the money.
Buy duals and Fetches. Nuff said.
Not sure with 150 dollars I could buy many duals or Fetches. I am getting depressed now. 150 dollars was, at early thought, a shit ton of money for me to invest in Magic. Now looking at some prices for Staple Cards and Dual/Fetch lands...Jesus Christ!!!No wonder since getting back into Magic and learning about this site...I have kept my nose in Budget decks!!!Now, it seems, I can get about 5 cards for 150 dollars. Ouch.
Got to start somewhere.
With Check lands like Drowned Catacomb...if I were to buy lands. Or, as stated 2 more City of Brass and 4 Mana Confluence. I rarely play dual colored decks....and NEVER play 3 color decks. So Fetch/Shock lands aren't really needed. If I played Tourneys or something other than just Casual games...then I would buy them.
Shock lands are a great alternative to true duals. A tenth the price and legal in all three eternal formats.(modern, legacy and vintage)Life in both formats is a resource. You really don't care about it until you hit that 8ish mark.
hey Jessie! loving grandmaster right now, so deffinite +1 from me. i also just remembered training grounds is a 1drop enchantment in blue and had to make a deck around itI made a similar deck but as America and training grounds. would you mind checking it out? :D tell me whatchu think and if you can, help me get it to the front page lol I think its going to be lots of fun to play with. any suggestions are always welcome. after all, I still need a sideboard lol. http://www.mtgvault.com/imementomori/decks/all-spells-get-2cmc-buyback/
Going there now.
Hello again. I saw this deck before the fate reforged release and was waiting until you updated it ha. Since it sort of revolves around Soulfire Grand Master, how about some cheaper sorceries such as lava spike? Only 1 mana, plus it can help buff your swiftspear. Of course, that's only if you want to go in that direction. If so, I'd also up the bolts to 4 from 3. Another solid deck that you make me want to proxy ha! +1!
Honestly I pitched this deck very, very fast! Maybe 15 minutes. Grand Master was pure inspiration. I just simple wanted to show everyone a simple way the card could be used. I am sure lots of people could really (as you are suggesting make it much faster/better) improve upon this deck idea. Glad to hear you like it. Mind checking this one out? http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/list-of-stamples-you-decide/
I"M TIRED OF GETTING UPDATES FOR THIS DECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry...Not sure what to do about that.
I'm just being facetious. Everytime I log in i see a little red symbol and think "Someone liked my deck!!!" and it's always this deck, and noone loves me. :'(
Going to show your decks some love right now then! ONWARD!!!
Erm ... HorizonBlue, all you need to do is to hit "unsubsrcribe from this deck" and you won't get any notifications anymore.
Check out this Red/Blue/White deck and leave your honest opinion. http://www.mtgvault.com/zombifiedsquid/decks/soulfire-chasm/
Troll alert
dictate of the twin gods or a similar card might work well with this. double your damage and your life gain.
I have a silly question, I don't quite get the mechanics of the boardwipe here: - If I want to nuke the opponent by having Soulfire Grand Master out and playing Anger of the Gods --- isn't that going to nuke the grandmaster itself ???
Yep. It will nuke Grand Master. But you have will have so much damned life afterwords, that it won't matter. Example. You have Grand Master in play. You have 3 creatures. Opponent has 4 creatures. You play Anger of the Gods. It does 24 damage to all the creatures. You gain 24 life. Grand Master is put into the graveyard.You now have 44 life and opponent has 20 life. In theory, you have enough burn to nuke your opponent.
Try the with Blasphemous Act :)
As suggested by several people. :)I wanted it faster with Anger of the Gods.
Well, "faster" is relative - see, you don't want to play Anger the Gods early on when there are only 3 or 4 creatures out (one of them being Granddaddy Soulfly). Blasphemous Act evens out with 6 creatures in play. So, Anger of Gods is only better in one situation: If you have Grandmaster Flash in play turn two and the opponent flooded the field with weenies so you have to St Anger on turn 3.
Granddaddy Soulfly...lol!
not a bad deck
Idk if anyone offered this, but what about vexing devil? 1 drop for a beastly creature and if they make you sac him they take the 4 damage you gain the life
how would that gain life?
It's also an instant or sorcery spell, not a creature spell. Nor ETB effects...
First post fail lol
At least it wasn't first post troll. Yes sir, it has to be an instant or sorcery spell, RozNasty. But thanks for the input. Any deck you want me to look at?
Now, I know you've intoned a primary interest in spells only, but have you considered the havoc this would wreak in a casual multiplayer game if you sideboarded a few Satyr Firedancers ? You wouldn't even have to bomb their creatures, your spells with do double duty for you, and you gain more life because of it!Also, for a more defensive bent, you could side in Boros Fury-Shield as a secondary Deflecting Palm.Oh, and I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere in here, but why no Mizzium Mortars? Is it the mana cost conflicting with the required cost for Soulfire?Sweet deck man, I'm a Jeskai sort of guy, so it kinda makes me drool.
Just spells. Mainly built the deck very fast to get people interested in Soulfire Grand Master.
Satyr Firedancer is beast in burn. I run it in my modern burn and it's so useful
Man, I just want a Soulfire Grandmaster so I can mess around with the interactions in an EDH deck. With the Satyr in there. And a lot of crazy things. But I would need someone other than Narset, Zedruu, Ruhan, or the Silent Tempest, I feel. Please, third set, give me a good commander.
You forgot numot lol
Jessie, Soulfire is an awesome card indeed. I've been running a very similar deck over the last year and, although it is a lot of fun, it is dreadfully inconsistent . I don't plan on giving up on it yet since I do enjoy playing with it, but keeping soul fire alive especially in a multiplayer game is a challenge . I run brave the sands and boros charm to help protect him. I've gotten big combos off with it like blasphemous act a few times but often the deck is just to slow and clunky and ends up getting outpaced by aggro decks, broken by anything with removal, or eventually outgunned by green stompy counter decks. Just my two cents. Feel free to check out my goblins deck if you are still looking at them- sounds like you have the right idea running lackey /Krenko . Goblin chieftain and/or goblin king are great depending on your format. Whispersilk cloak is nice to run with lackey. Goblin war strikes and goblin grenades are great as well. Browbeat is great once your opponent feels like they are already on the fence and they don't want to take the 5 damage. Good luck with the build, cavern of souls might be something to consider.