Junk Sigils

You can say that about any deck really. They both add fuel to his deck but without them it will still function.

yeah but with the number of 1/1's this deck produces, this deck is especially reliant on the sigil captain. Like a lot of aggro decks are based around a card, but can work without. This deck seems to just be a crapton of 1/1s.

well the warden of the first tree does work by his self, and with cards like champion of lambholt and gavany township i can have a large creature base of 2/2 and 3/3, with a larger champion making them unblocked and lethal

idk why d3 was downvoted for that comment this deck looks slow not a bad idea but idk why its at the top of the hot pg warden is slow and champion is easy to remove this deck might have a hard time in a casual game and it has no chance in competitive. between thoughtsieze, shock lands, and bitterblossom you might kill yourself before you get a doubling season to pay off

I dunno any amount of swarm is good with sorin's +1, but I will admit this deck needs an sb with a a bit of removal, and proc for midrange, and mono red respectively. If those decks dont exist in the meta then it should do fine. BTW, on the same argument you guys are making goblin rabblemaster is bad, because it is easy to remove and just pumps out 1/1s.

1/1s aren't bad. they are just . . . not something that tends to perform well in causual, unless you have some sort of infinite combo. Or perhaps the meta at my shop is just to board wipe happy.

I just think the deck is to slow it needs mana ramp, removal, and life gain to have a chance

All true, but like I said it all depends on the meta that this deck is playing in. I think its best to wait and see how he says it does, and then he can alter it from there. After you have decided on a list for a deck I always listen to advice but often don't act upon it until the deck has played a few games.

So maybe if we come back in a day or two this deck could be different...

I rather doubt it will be played, as $600+ for a casual deck is a bit much.

Well of course there is little chance you get to see a rhino, as was told there are more rhinos on a pro tour then are left in the wild.

You are aware people play on cockatrice correct? I have casual decks valued way over $600 so i really don't see why that argument keeps getting brought up. Also this deck has been edited with some tweaks from suggestions from people willing to take it as it is (a deck idea). I doubt anyone has drafted up the perfect deck on their first attempt.

then the question becomes why sigil captain over cathars crusade?

Cheaper and is still a creature itsself

Nice Good call!

I don't see pendelhaven being worth it and you might be better off with vraska as a walker with doubling season and Ajani, mentor of heroes is nice. and just splashing black id drop 2 godless shrine for 2 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth

arbor elf looks useless also if you want mana ramp put in birds of paradise

Elf can produce any colour of mana your lands can.Though birds is more efficient, its also allot more expensive for just a little more early game consistency. Money wise? just not worth it.

sun's champ is nice but this mana curve is already bad the deck needs mana ramp and removal to even have a shot at playing sun's champ

lingering souls YES >.< AND spectral procession maybe? Also if this is a casual deck build is it really worth sinking the money/trades for the land? I mean i always save those for my main competitive decks... just saying.

If he doesn't have them you might as well buy them. Not like they will go to waste becauae he can swap them out to put in another deck later.

Does much less than doubling season

does it much faster, much cheaper. if this is intended to be a Modern deck, youll be hard pressed to stay alive long enough to even cast Doubling Season, let alone get any value out of it.

especially if you only have 4 planeswalkers in your deck and not that much ramp

Says casual right in the tag bud

that's a pretty expensive casual deck lol

Wasn't aware casual had a price limit? I thought that was called budget? That's like saying if you play goyf you must be a competitive player or any dual lands aren't casual. Casual is playing what you think is fun.

Ktrojan, the deck designer can speak for himself. I doubt very much that he needs you to champion an argument for him. Bud.

To be fair this deck works off of both counters and tokens. I disregard the price and focus on the causal tag. seasons does a better job as it benefits his tokens, +1/+1 counters, and loyalty counters.

I think perhaps he did speak for himself in the deck tag as well as the deck name. I just read the info given to me by him. He happens to be a friend of mine so if you're but hurt I'm sorry for that ;).

butt*

that but may have been intentional, as in, if you are only hurt. 'Twould make grammatical sense.

Although clearly good, not what this deck is doing.

no we can't you prick.

That's better! Gold star

Normally if a newly posted deck gets 2 or 3 comments on it others notice and join in. Just ask a few of your friends who have vault accounts to give you some advice. I don't recommend going on other decks and posting yours.

Great suggestions I agree!

i'd recommend that as a sideboard. If he isn't playing against any enchantments, it would be a dead draw. I play with him and Ktrojan almost weekly so he should k ow the meta of a causal deck around our friends.

Casual doesn't mean budget.

Yeah but most casual players don't want to spend 500$ on a deck.

Sure they don't have to. Everyone spends what they feel like. I don't like seeing people call a casual deck out because of it's price. They could have pulled most of their cards from packs.

Doubt it. Vistor is the best Sorin out of the three in my opinion.

You don't think tokens are more important than buff + lifelink?
This one doesnt even make 1/1s
But, to each his own.

What are you talking about? Your right he doesn't make 1/1s it makes 2/2 flyers. It has better defensive because of the of the buff. Sure the tokens don't get counters from sigil but to get envision I think makes it worth it.

While I also think Visitor is the best, the other two are very good in certain scenarios. In this situation, I agree with eap5000 that Lord of Innistrad would be a better choice.

Agreed, Lingering Souls saves lives.

i love that he is using champ of lambholt thats a win con in itself def a like and +1 from me

i def agree on that he is really good

I wouldn't agree, if anything it might be best to run Intangible Virtue. Viggy and for 2 less. Sure he doesn't get a creature out of it but I think this would be faster.

i like the phantom general it works great with tokens decks thats just my opinion

I'm not saying it doesn't work with token decks but I feel like speed is more important.

i run 4 in my modern tokens deck it works great ill post it and its really fast. u would love it