The Final Sacrifice

thx man (:
mind droppin a like to give it some attention? :D

might i suggest another scullclamp and possibly a bit more land?

another skull clamp and the deck would be illegal, and the land is the deck has always done me well, i tried playing with 18 and four evolving wilds but i always end up with useless amounts of land :P

another skullclamp makes the deck illegal, and the land is perfect for this decks mana curve (:

but skullclamp is legal in vintage

I agree with everything that you are saying except for bloodghast and your first comment;
Bloodghast is phenominal in this deck and due to the fact that it comes unto the field and ALL of my ghasts in the graveyard come back from just playing a swamp (or double tapping my wilds) makes it easily the best sac outlet in the deck..
Turn one: Dark ritual, buried alive for three ghasts
turn two: play a land a get em all, then with your two mana you can play any essential creature in the deck, such as carrion feeder where he'll get plus three tokens and if theres a mortician beetle option you can play him and double boost both of them (:

Unearth isnt really a card i would recommend for this deck because its not worth a card slot to get a creature from the grave because all cards that you want to retireve can get back on the battlefield on their own :D

And the deck is very versatile in its aggresion. I've played this deck at a few vintage tourneys now and its always done me good, so far it has a 6/1 streak :D (6 wins 1 loss...Had an embarassing loss to another sacrifice deck :o )
But i do appreciate the advice and im gonna look into those other cards you reccomended (:

Ok, I see your point with bloodghast, but consider the probability of pulling off your ideal first two turns, I would run a full set of buried alive and maybe a couple entomb to be more likely to be able to pull that off. And to trigger bloodghast's landfall more, I would run either marsh flats or verdant catacombs.

so expensive tho! XD
that would quadruple the decks cost (:

Surely you have heard of the concept of proxy cards???

If you really want you could run terramorphic expanse aswell as evolving wilds, its basically the same card but obviously you could run 4 of each for all the landfall abilities

terramorphic and evolving are alright fetch cards, and for the purpose of this deck, I agree with you that a set of both would work well. I find the best fetch lands are ridiculous price wise but more efficient because the lands entered not tapped.

Then it just turns into a matter of cost

cabal therapy is way too expensive, and skull clamp is restricted in vintage, i would add more if i could D:
Demonic appetite is ridiculously fast, especially once i get some bloodghasts on the field it instantly gives one of my creatures a huge boost. Blade of the blood chief was there originally, but that one mana is surprisingly way too slow for this deck :/
and diregraf ghoul is a bit stronger than tenacious and his necesity as a zombie is for gravecrawler to be cast from the graveyard (:

Cabal Therapy costs one mana, how can that be too expensive? Especially since I suggested them to replace Despise. They just fit better because this deck doesn't have much problems paying the flashback cost.

Skullclamp isn't restricted in Vintage and never was to my knowledge. Why should it? It needs creatures to operate ... in Vintage ...

About Demonic Appetite, I didn't know that you are thinking that competitive and are aiming for such a fast victory. And even if I would think that the requirement to sacrifice creatures slows you down again (unless you have Blood Ghast as well and a land each turn).

I'll concede regarding the Diregraf, though, I always forget about the Gravecrawler's requirement.

Cards like Gravecrawler and Blood Artist didn't exist 3 years ago, so it can't be the same.
When millions of players are building decks, alot of them will look similar, even if they never accessed the internet before, especially when it is about common themes like sacrificing creatures in a mono-black deck. Alot of card choices are just logical ones, especially in the newer Sets where block mechanisms and tribal themes run rampant. For many years now, Wizards of the Coast is designing the decks for us (they print new cards specifically to interact with existing cards and decks).

That being said, the card choices are exactly the same down to the single Skullclamp. On the other hand, MTGVault DOES have the "clone deck" functionality, so why not use it?

i didn´t mean it wrong ;-)

btw look at the deck i posted. under the deck name is date ;-)

oh lawd his deck is close to mine! :o
but, swear on my life, didnt know about its existance til now, thats scary how clsoe his deck is to mine XD
tho he uses virulent swipe and from what i can see he seems much more focused on bloodghast while i play nether traitor and gravecrawler to have a much more fluid and reliable sacrifice outlet (:
i'd be interested to play his tho :D

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There are some remarkable similarities =P

That said, these kinds of decks are VEEERRRY specific, and really only work with a certain set of cards, so it's not as farfetched to find so many similarities as one might think.

mortivore is way too expensive in this deck, and ghastly demise is outdone by bone splinters (:

Bloodghast has landfall.

Ooh I see, my miatake

So it's a double-trigger for Bloodghast? Now, quick question: What if you canNOT get Bloodghast out or it is not on your field? I'd run Liliana's Shade to search out Swamps. You COULD keep the Wilds, but I personally do not like that card.

Well, you sac Blood Ghast, play the Wilds, Ghast comes back, you sac him again, then sac the Wilds, Ghast omes back a second time.
Sure, you won't get any benefit if you don't have the Ghast and/or nothing to sac him and I really don't know if this is worth the troubly of running a land that ultimately gives you a land that comes into play tapped - but that's why the Wilds are in this deck. Haven't played this deck so I can't say if it is worthwhile.

Liliana's Shade is way off the mana curve for this deck. Armillary Sphere maybe but I also don't se this as a worthwhile addition because you really only need it for the Ghast.

bloodhgast always gets out from either buried alive (which you should always use 3 bloodghast for that)
or just hand draw (:
and the deck runs perfectly fine with just fourteen lands tbh, the mana curve is kept low for that reason ^_^

^ thanks man :D

no problem (:
and thx for the advice x3

or Ghost Town for that matter ... I wonder why Ghost Town is still worth 5 cents or so, it should have gone up since landfall is a thing.

Ghost town is very good, I forgot about it.
There was an MaRo article that talked about Ghost Town's development... It was quite interesting

ghost towns colorless mana is useless for this deck :/
undiscovered paradise is amazing tho :D

?? that's a merfolk deck, and if you are going to slut your deck around, which i personally have no problem with, than atleast give me some advice and a real reason I should look at ur deck lol XD

I could see a splash of blue in here, but not Merfolk. Blue/Black Zombie could help with your sacrificing. Zombies = Graveyard Fodder.

haha, a blue black self/zombie deck is in the making, dont you worry ;D

I'm not worried.

it was sarcastic ._.

I know. I was just playing along.