Brainstorming: Promised Land

by Gothy on 01 March 2015

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

Sorceries (6)


Instants (5)

Artifacts (1)


Enchantments (3)

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Deck Description

You've played standard, you know how simple it is to define with its powerful midrange, fast aggro and grinding control... but what if I told you there was something deeper?.. Something older, full of powerful old cards that can win before your opponent gets a second land drop. My my boys and girls its the first Brainstorming article on Modern, the Promise Land!!!

As SCG Baltimore starts to draw to a close, and the recent pro tour's format being modern, the old and bold is certainly getting more attention, especially with Modern Masters 2 coming out soon! The focus of this article is how to get into modern and why you should play it. We'll focus on the latter first.

WHY YOU SHOULD PLAY MODERN:
Modern allows a larger pool of cards, and there aren't any rotations, meaning you can carry on using a deck as long as you like. The larger card pool also allows some crazy infinite (or just enough to win like the above) combos that kill your opponent very early, I'd say turn 4 is the average turn to win for a combo deck because, well its pure filth, in a good way!

Modern also allows you to use some of your favourite cards that have rotated from standard, be warned though, they must be very powerful to break into modern, and if you're big on brewing then this might be the format for you, some of you that follow my decks will know I recently brewed a new 'Progenitus turn 3' deck because that's the sort of fair format that modern is!!! Now you might be worrying that everyone else will be armed with these powerful decks, but you are too, and you get to really know your deck and become amazing with it, I'm a big fan of Tron!

Need I say more? You get the options of playing some amazing cards which allow some crazy and brilliant decks which demand a competent pilot, so if you want to improve your game with a powerful deck that won't rotate once a year, then Modern is for you!

GETTING INTO MODERN

However much fun Modern can be, it can be difficult to break in, because some of the staple cards are very expensive due to quality. However it is possible to make a powerful modern deck for less than billions of whatever currency you use! Decks like infect, which can win on turn 2, aren't as expensive as you expect. Really it's quite simple to get into Modern, you just need to settle on a deck and build it. From previous articles we know about aggro, midrange and control, however now we get to introduce another archetype of combo, which utilises specific cards with huge amounts of synergy that will kill your opponent there and then, like this 'Storm' deck that will get to 10-20 spells along with Grapeshot to kill your opponent, its easy to do this by turn 3. Modern takes more research than standard, but you're in the right place to get support, I can point you in the right direction if you have no idea what to do, or a deck in the pipeline.

So actually I'm going to leave it to you, my beloved readers, now to post your decks for improvement, ideas and styles for what decks you want to brew and I'll help you out as much as I can, so go on, what are you waiting for? Go give Modern a go!

Just remember keeeeeep Brainstorming!

How to Play

Utilise Storm, cast lots of spells in one turn using rituals and drawing cards with cantrips so you can grapeshot for the win!

Deck Tags

  • Modern
  • article
  • Brainstorming
  • Competitive

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Mana Curve

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Not Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Brainstorming: Promised Land

I think we might need a "how to:" tab on the front page.

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 21:55

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How to tab?

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 21:55

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Need a "how to do something" tab on the front page.

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 21:58

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Ye would be good to have an article page on here, focus on the hot page for now I guess! Hint hint like the deck ;)

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 22:02

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ya an article pg on the vault would be nice. I gave this a +1

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 22:22

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Thanks both of you! Ye it would be a cool extra

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Posted 01 March 2015 at 22:51

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This could very well be the push needed for someone who is thinking of getting into modern that's just not sure. +1
http://www.mtgvault.com/maniacalmaniac/decks/delvers-jeskai-scepter/
I'v been having a lot of fun playing this deck and has doe pretty good considering it's a brew. I've had more consistency with my Faster Creature Burn deck which made hot page a few months back but any suggestions to this one would be appreciated.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 02:15

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BTW it doesn't seem to be letting me like the deck. I'll try again tomorrow.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 02:19

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While I'm not new to modern, it's nice to see it in the spotlight since it is SO different from standard. In my meta, board wipes are pretty uncommon (thankfully) because my friends and I usually prefer to take the offensive :) My go-to deck is an elf warrior that can put out 11x 3/3 tramplers by turn 4. Seriously fun to play!

I'm really trying to find another top notch modern deck though. I've been building one or two a week online and I think I found one with potential. I would very much appreciate feedback on my white equipment deck so that I can continue stomping on my friends' decks!

http://www.mtgvault.com/rayne12/decks/free-equipment/

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 05:12

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 05:12

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...B-But Brainstorm isn't legal in modern... And that's why Legacy is better!

Legacy master race!

(No poor people allowed.)

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 05:46

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Bring it Brainstormer! lol

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 05:49

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Worldgorger dragon is no longer banned. (Insert happy dance.)

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 14:01

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Show and Tell or ANT all the way, but I've only ever played cockatrice legacy and don't have the community to build one and being 16, there is no way in hell I can mardu, dramatic entrance and a legacy deck!!!

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 21:15

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Worldgorger dat piranha marsh.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:32

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Would be turn 2.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:37

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Dat Griselbrand though...

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:37

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Worldgorger can lock out the game turn 1 though if they turn 1 say a Deathrite. Worldgorger just goes, yep, can't win so we'll draw instead and go to game 2.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:39

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Is that in the reanimator deck?

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:40

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Yes, you cast animate dead targeting worldgorger, he comes into play and bounces animate dead which then puts him in the graveyard, and if you have no other legal targets for animate dead this happens forever since animate dead is not a choice once it enters the battlefield. Piranha marsh makes a target player lose 1 life, so if you have it in play Worldgorger bounces it forever until your opponent is dead.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:43

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Ah I'm with you, seems quite easy to stop legacy wise though?

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:44

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HOORAY INFINITE COMBOS!! :D

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:48

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Not really, you run the full Brainstorm, Ponder, Probe and Force of Will. It also runs Reanimate, Entomb and Dark Ritual. Do you have a counter spell to stop animate dead? Do you have Swords to Plowshares in hand? And depending on the match it's sideboard is just straight reanimator. I.E Elesh Norn, Iona and whatnot.
It's as easy to stop as regular reanimator basically. Or storm depending on how the deck plays. Sometimes you just reanimate Griselbrand and draw 14 cards and go nuts with dark rituals and cabal rituals.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:49

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Yes and no. All depends on what your opponent is running (ie, do they have blue? chances are they have counters) but this combo goes off fairly quickly and with minimal cards needed, so less for your opponent to deal with.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:50

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Did this a while ago. It could use an update.
http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/recurring-nightmare/

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:55

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Which reminds me, it actually runs careful study over Ponder because you want to be able to discard.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 22:57

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Stop being poor, poor people! It makes us uncomfortable.

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Posted 06 March 2015 at 12:47

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Dude not everyone is a rich bitch like you now please take you high society ass out of this convo kedvesem

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Posted 06 March 2015 at 23:02

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Call me crazy, but I suspect some sarcasm on kedvesem's part

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 00:10

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We don't care about the poor, because we are the party of the mother fuckers we don't care about the mother suckers ;)

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 08:21

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Gothy I love you commitment and compassion but that statement sounds so stupid nothing agenst you homie but just re read that again but if your a mother sucker congrats I'm a mother fucker I prefer being the one doing the banging not having someone bang my face

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 08:29

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YouTube, when mom isn't home.

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 14:15

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Umm it was a David Cameron Rap quote...

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 19:07

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Oo shit my bad I'm flying high as a satellite did know..

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 05:59

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Didn't know

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 18:43

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Modern is one of my favorite formats, but I don't play it that much because there is no modern tournament at the game stores nearby my house, so my <a href="/kered/decks/scapeshift-2/" target="new">Scapeshift deck</a> still needs some work.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 18:45

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Holy crap, how do you do the deck link?

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Posted 29 March 2015 at 13:59

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Just taking a quick glance at the list, and while I understand that it's supposed to be in the Modern format, something about the list just seems off and I can't put my finger on it. I'm primarily a Legacy player and have a deck list for Legacy Storm provided below. Feel free to take a look and apply parts of the concept that are applicable to Modern.

http://www.mtgvault.com/admiralbananas/decks/storm-2/

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 20:00

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I'm no expert in storm, but I think why you get that feeling is because modern does not have the good filter cards like ponder, or brainstorm. Its a little more choppy here, and we dont have seething song either. I might be wrong, but hope that helps.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 20:54

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Weirdly enough, the commentators on SCG were talking about this, it's the difference in your rituals and you only need half the spells to win, I love legacy storm!

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 21:01

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Why you should play Modern can be summed up nicely in one sentence.
"No rotations."

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:21

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Same argument can be made for Legacy or Vintage :P

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:22

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...edh and tiny leader (although not a sanctioned format.)

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:28

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:33

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Competitive or not, must be real if people play it. Doesn't mean you have to care for it.

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:42

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Posted 02 March 2015 at 23:46

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I'm guessing either you've never played edh before or the people you played it with didn't know how to play magic. Productive magic, nice one.

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 00:05

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You ever look at a card and you want for a deck in any format and wonder how it could possibly be as expensive as it is? You can thank Commander for a little bit of that. It's a popular enough format where it drives up demand for cards thus having an impact on their price.

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 00:56

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Ever wonder why Serra Ascendant is 20 dollars? Commander, that's why.

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 01:00

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Aaron I don't much care for commander either, but I don't dismiss it as "unproductive" or the "red headed step child". You sound like kind of an asshat, to be honest. People can play what they want. And there is a banlist, it is a real format, and I'll bet if you tried to play it, you would lose. The main draw to the format is after all the multiplayer aspect, and you don't sound like much of a team player

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 03:21

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Even though I totally suck at commander, I still enjoy it, because you get to have stupidmy crazy and fun things going down! That's why I play it, but I do think comprtitve magic is better, although I think I read someone say that commander doesn't have a ban list... It certainly does

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 08:18

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 10:39

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commander can now be sanctioned for play at fnm in england. So the banlist does matter if that happens. 1v1 commander vanned cards would probably not be as broken as the ate in multiplayer. But nobody plays commander 1v1 here, outside if tiny leaders and sanctioned events. That means the van list is enforced. In multiplayer allot of the game is about managing the politics of the game. If you play a banned card in a casual multiplayer then you will get targeted and most likly die as a result. Comnander pushing up prices is sad thoufH , i agree with you in that.

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 18:02

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If you play a banned card here, you will be asked to remove it, the ban list is treated like modern or any other ban list here

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 19:22

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I like commander... I made some neat commander decks. Commander is fun because you can use cards and combos you couldn't normally use in modern without getting whooped before you ever get the chance to utilize them. Just my opinion, is all, but its also fairly popular where I am from and people take it rather seriously.

I think its fun. So there.

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 22:08

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The point of commander is to do silly things and have fun, and if there are cards that make it annoying to play it they ban them because they are taking the point of the format away, and just because it isn't competitive doesn't mean it's worse. :)

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Posted 10 March 2015 at 23:44

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I concur shit there a dozen differnt deck designs that would just destroy the game but also them base I love commander I glad that. It's getting its recognition for being a strategy mellow base causal interaction feel where anyone of any design to you card once banned from one set to another one and be honestly fair regulates its potential plus what's the basic you a wizard dueling one another from infinitesimal realms of realities known as planes and universes where each one is born and/or raised up in shows that we are selves are random planeswalker's battling with are own private arrangement of spells that grant us magic inter actions to show own own image, personality, character, style, taste, designs, intellect, and general love of the game of just playing Magic the trading card game etc. but still it's magic with people who just plane love playing the hard with people from friends to foes we love them all so we too must hone are skills into knowledge of the wisdom of the game to fighting with great amounts of courage to fight each other with extra amounts of godly powers that control everything to anything are hearts desire.!?

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 06:33

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Was anyone able to follow this? I know I got lost very early on in this post...

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 14:42

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I'll try to get back to you on that one.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 16:12

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I might be an ass, but I don't think English is MrCannabis' first language.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 17:04

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I'm ill right now, and had a mock in Russian history, so I'm a tad dead so someone translate that into simple for me?

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 17:54

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I was high as fuck when I wrote it. Plus I suck at grammar and spelling and no English is my first language I'm just not good at detailing and/or explaining things

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 18:45

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I'm an avid Modern player and try to attend as many events as I can when work allows. Having said that, trying to get Modern players together is a bit like herding cats, no date or time seems to work for a large enough group to get together unless you are in a large city. Is it because the average Modern player is a bit older then the average Standard player?

Although I build everything from casual style Modern decks to pretty sharp and competitive Modern decks my go to deck that I usually pull out if I don't know the meta I am about to face is Hatebears. Nothing super fancy or comboistic, just rock steady and when played right can give most popular Modern decks a workout.

http://www.mtgvault.com/magicviking/decks/modern-hatebears/

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 06:44

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I was wondering if I could get some advice on a modern mardu deck, not super competitive since I'm sure I just lose to Abzan value town or Splinter Twin, but I feel like it could be a tier 1.5 deck with some tweaking.

http://www.mtgvault.com/couch312/decks/modern-mardu/

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Posted 03 March 2015 at 23:58

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I really want to make this deck a thing, and obviously competitive as possible. I have the Emrakul in there for fun, but i would replace it with Craterhoof Behemoth for competitive play. Any suggestions would be awesome!

http://www.mtgvault.com/coolwip4865/decks/the-wave-of-doom/

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 02:12

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http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/budget-combo-deck-20/

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 06:11

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I feel this would be a great deck to get into modern with a labortiary maniac self mill for 20

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 06:35

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http://www.mtgvault.com/insertuserhere/decks/this-deck-does-not-exist/

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 06:29

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I like these articles that you post. Good work, man.

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 20:14

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I love Modern!

And I <3 Gothy!


*Waves her deck around*

http://www.mtgvault.com/fairemont/decks/edh-insert-witty-title/



I wish more people played Modern. I dislike standard, but we only have standard tournaments. Modern is more fun. More versatile. More stuff to do, more interesting decks. Pfft at standard.

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 21:16

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Also the part where you don't have to spend x amount of dollars every three months.

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 21:30

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That part irks me as well.

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Posted 04 March 2015 at 21:37

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http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/brainstorming-budget-issues/ I'm waving my deck/article around now, it is standard, and I WILL convinve you to play standard Fairemont!!!

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 22:48

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And suddenly modern was born from the ashes as if people didn't know it was a thing! There is a reason that budget is budget. It means i cant afford or i am not willing to buy the cards that would make this deck actually good. Welcome to a world where competition exists and players are old enough to have jobs that pay for the hobby! where has this post been for the last year and a half of shit hole budget decks??? And yes standard makes me yawn, its like paying for a modern deck but with the fun and mechanics of a budget deck. Modern is fun because there is a guide line, you cant play any old broken card, and any deck is good enough to win as long it sideboards well and is resilient to others. Long live modern and creativity!

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Posted 06 March 2015 at 01:30

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It's true, the shittiest of budget decks are constantly sent to the front page. You're better off posting a deck with 4 Child of Night and 3 Stain the Mind than an interesting Modern deck here.

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Posted 06 March 2015 at 04:21

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http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/brainstorming-budget-issues/ you gents might like this article then, it is about moving away from budget and into competitive

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 22:48

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Hey Gothy, I was thinking of writing an article about Advanced Deck Building: Rogue, for all formats, but mainly modern as it is the most likely to see new rogue decks, tell me what you think.

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Posted 06 March 2015 at 22:23

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What do you mean by 'Rogue'?

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 22:47

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I mean building decks that have never seen play, completely new concepts that haven't been explored to their full extent yet. For example, when living end came out of nowhere a few years ago, it was a really cool deck that hadn't really been explored at all.
It wouldn't be an article for new players directly, but more of a collaboration article, where those who have really good ideas can post them and get feedback to see if their idea is viable.

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Posted 10 March 2015 at 23:17

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Modern probably isn't the best format for that, I'd look at standard

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 17:52

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Hi everyone, just wanted to apologize on how long it's taking me to reply, I will get round to it ASAP but I've recently had a lot going on with exam preparation and being in the theatre every night!

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Posted 07 March 2015 at 09:16

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Hey, I came up with this hilarious Gideon deck idea based around Fog.... and Elite Arcanist... but mainly Fog and no one has looked at it:
http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/clouded-justice/
Also, my new budget mono-red mill deck. Yes it does exist:
http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/monored-mill/

I would also like to say that I LOVE MODERN and haven't played Standard since RTR rotated out. Also, your bit about Infect being cheap is MOSTLY true, however some of the cards for it are now rather expensive, and do NOT get me started on how expensive the lands are.....

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Posted 07 March 2015 at 11:25

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Twin and Storm are by far my favorite of the combo decks, however due to my love of these combo decks I have branched off into playing Ad Nauseum and Breach Reanimator. Combo decks are fun because they allow a player to test their skill on a different level and honestly next to control their is no better way to test this than playong a combo deck.

Combo decks require a certain level of understanding on your current meta, how the deck is played, do's and don'ts, and of course best and worst match ups. Modern is an extremely fun format to play and I believe it is better than legacy (yet, legacy storm and renaimator are amazing).

I have also played U/R Delver Varient,ls, Faries in the form of U/B and Mono-Blue. I have played Affinity, The Rock, Zoo, Jeskai, Grixis, and Esper Control. I have also played Tron, Doran, 8Rack, Matyr Proc, Mill, Dredge, and well anything but infect as I personally have a strong dislike for the mechanic.

Modern allows players to play a format that is so diverse and test skills on a new level. If one can obtain staples for modern over time then their chances to break into or delve into Legacy become easier as many staples carry over. Nicely done and thanks for organizing a page or group project in regards to aiding others in broadening theor horizon.

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 05:15

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I have to disagree with you.
The staples that carry over to legacy are the fetches. The only decks that transfer over are delver decks and burn, and even then burn gets Price of Progress, Chain Lightning and a couple other cards. Delver gets a million and one variants.
Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain, Dark Depths, Deathrite Shaman, Stoneforge Mystic, Jace the Mind Sculptor, Dig Through Time, Glimpse of Nature, Green Sun Zenith, Punishing Fire, Divining Top, Punishing Fire, Umezawa's Jitte are all banned in modern.
Anything that is played in modern has a better version that is played in legacy. Serum Visions is a strictly worse preordain. Path to Exile is almost always worse than Swords to Plowshares. So on and so forth.
Snapcaster Mage, Vendilion Clique, Batterskull, Thoughtseize, Abrupt Decay, Tarmagoyf, Dark Confidant, and Liliana of the Veil are the only ones that carry over to legacy.

I understand that legacy is expensive to get into, but let's loo, at splinter twin in modern. Average cost of the deck non-foil, non-promo, alright condition cards is between 800 to 1000 dollars depending on the build. Bloom Titan being the most budgetish tier 1 deck in modern averages between 450 to 600 dollars. I mean, legacy is more expensive, but it's really not that much more expensive than Modern. You can build some pretty sweet decks for that kind of money. I play Mono Red Sneak attack in legacy, and it is ridiculously fun.

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 05:44

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That's a pretty good point Couch, as far as the prices for decks go. I mean, take a look at the legacy decks on my page here (http://www.mtgvault.com/admiralbananas/) most of them can be built for around $1,500 or less and all are tournament capable caliber. And the one's that are more than $1,500? Chances are there are a fair amount of dual lands in there driving up the overall price, simple solution to that would be to replace them with the pain lands from either of the Ravnica blocks.

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 06:20

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I enjoy both legacy and modern, I view them as separate games and love them both, I'd play more legacy but I ain't got no money for that

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 20:30

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Actually the biggest changes from Modern to Legacy that is the main increase in Prices is the dual lands themself. Legacy is expensive and yes, offers better versions of the same modern cards, Swords to Plowshares can be attained for the same price as Path to Exile, Serum Visions is obviosly overpriced and Ponder, Brainstorm, and Preordain are all vetter canidates as well as lower priced. Legacy has many expensive cards but it seems the highest priced are ypur Lands, Jace, Force of Will, Jitte (Which normally 1 is ran), Stoneforge Mystics, and Sneak Show peices.

Not to argue which is pricier than the next because Legacy is the highest priced, but you saod not much transfers over, well Goyf, Snapcaster, Delver, Bob, Bolts, Thoughtseize, Liliana, Batterskull, Decay, Emrakul, Griselbrand, Iona, Elesh Norn, need I continue naming staples from Modern that do transfer. As I mentioned this is a great article to introduce players to a new format. And those who have been playing since lorwyn practically have their modern staples (if they kept their collection). I for one have been playing sonce 98 so card prices do not affect me, I have plenty to go around, so I am not worried about the price. I just mentioned what I believe is fun for me and why I prefer it over another format.

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 22:23

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Jesus Cain, you've been playing as long as I've been alive! I'm going to slip the conversation to areas that I'm better at: STANDARD! http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/brainstorming-budget-issues/ This thread, and several others, made me think about finance

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 22:46

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I began playing at 8 years old not much about the game suprises me. Costs of cards, attitudes of some players, and I have watched as this game has evolved over time. I have taught more people the game and formats than the law could allow, lol. I appreciate seeing other players trying to reach out and aid others in learning the game and other formats

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Posted 08 March 2015 at 23:58

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Than that makes you enjoying the article that little bit nicer! Glad you liked it!

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 08:19

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Anyone have time to do some criticizing or some other such shenanihacks?

http://www.mtgvault.com/couch312/decks/modern-rdw/

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Posted 09 March 2015 at 19:28

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I do like your deck, it is essentially the same as the one I played, but I think all modern storm main decks are the same. My sideboard is slightly different though. Perhaps give it a look through see what you think.

http://www.mtgvault.com/mirouku31/decks/ur-storm/

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Posted 10 March 2015 at 16:40

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Hey guys, I would love some feedback on this deck I am going to take to the state tournament on April 4th. This deck is meant to specifically deal with the current meta, so everything in there is there for a reason. Not sure about Doran/Coursor/Brids
I would really appreciate the help!
http://www.mtgvault.com/vanguard487/decks/modern-junk-2/

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Posted 10 March 2015 at 23:29

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I hope this gets more people into modern because it's totally awesome! I think this was a good idea to make this good job! :)

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Posted 10 March 2015 at 23:36

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Thank you!

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 17:52

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Hey ladies and gentlemen here are a few of my personal deck design I have build some of them might be more expensive because of they are rarer edditions to being all holograph and or signed cards plus some are also not in the data base of mtgvault like duel decks to alternet reprints to promos so yeah anyways besides that sucks why don't they have the whole data base of each card shit they on the gatherer and every trading card game sight that sells and also trades cards are not on this sight what gives. Back to hand here are some built to be played by anyone of any age and surprising how easy to strategize combos plus the ability structured to control and awareness my EDH/Commander decks.!?

http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/progenitus-edh-commander-2/

http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/kaalia-edh-commander/

http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/sliver-legion-edh-commander/

http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/rhys-the-redeem-edhcommander/

http://www.mtgvault.com/mrcannabis/decks/power-rangers-edhcommander/

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 07:12

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Not going to lie? I had a very hard time reading this post because of the massive run on sentence. But this site doesn't have a need to have every single version (regular, foil, FNM promo, judge promo, signed, etc.) of every card because this site wasn't built to buy/sell/trade cards. The purpose of this site is for people to be able to post deck lists for various ideas they have and get feedback from the community and let the deck lists be a collaborative experience. If you want to brag about how expensive your decks are because you have super rare editions and foils and autographed copies of cards, well, congratulations? Good for you? I don't think anyone really cares that much. Go brag about it on Star City or something, not here.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 14:37

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No it's not that it's that one of my decks is using only alternet art in it and that's the theme alternet art deck and another to be just plain expensive it took me a few years to build them but once I was completed I decides to let my cousins, my niece and nephews test them out and some are only 8 years old but figured out the basics of my deck designs in the first 2 games and boom they became inthralled with the game. That's what I was trying to truly get at and I know the site is a trading or selling sight but some people like to build decks base around the differnt styles of art to just funny alters the artist did like I have a kiora the crashing waves and the artist alter it into a flying kiora with vampire or demon wings which I just plain love and think is awesome so I'm not trying to boast or show off but like I said earlier it could be base around my character where I love decks that are fun goofy and just plain silly that's all. Right now I'm trying to build a high competitive deck that's going to be called "The Modern Day Legacy" it's design with only modern cards but to be also a top tier deck both in modern and legacy. To be exact a tier 1-2 modern build but a tier 2-3 in legacy. I know it sounds impossible but that's why I want to build it to prove anything is possible personally I want it to simic colors but I'm always willing to change it into differnt color scheme so what's you idea for a "The Modern Day Legacy" deck design.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 19:04

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Despite my love of all formats, Brainstorming is actually aimed at the competitive formats such as Standard and Modern (not mentioning legacy because I don't know enough yet) so lets stick to talking competitive magic please :P

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 19:28

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Ok but I bet you in less then 2 years EDH will be competitive magic and more popular then standard and modern because of tiny leaders and two headed giant.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 19:45

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Building a top tier deck that is both modern legal and legacy legal sounds impossible because it is impossible. Take it from me. I've attended multiple fairly large scale tournaments for legacy. The card play and synergy in legacy is on a completely different level from modern. Modern is forced to use cards like Path to Exile and Ponder where legacy has access to those cards and Swords to Plowshares and Brainstorm which are just straight up better versions of their modern counterparts. Even if you have a tier 1 modern deck with a pretty good pilot for the deck, you're probably looking at a tier 4 deck in legacy.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 19:49

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Ye playing a modern deck at a legacy tournament is like bringing a pea shooter to an AR15 fight... and EDH won't do that simply because that doesn't make as much money, so wizards are unlikely to change something that makes so much money. Also 2 headed and tiny leaders aren't that good for competitive play, not saying I don't enjoy them, I love 2-headed pre-releases, but I can't imagine a tiny leaders pro tour or 2-headed pro tour

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 19:55

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Fact; Splinter Twin is not viable in legacy. If you want to play primetime and hardcast emrakul you play mud or 12post. Modern delver is somewhat okay but legacy delver is strictly better.
Also, if EDH ever does become competitive a lot of the players will lose interest. I mean the whole point of edh is to be a casual format. EDH might be as popular as standard, but never more than it. You can't draft commander.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 20:08

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Couch, you just made my life so easy, that's exactly what I was trying to say with examples xD

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 20:12

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I do try every now and then.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 21:16

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 22:48

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I'm just going to go ahead and direct you to everything you said about commander. So you are right, nobody here knows what's going on, it's just some of us are better at pretending than others.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:17

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:28

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Actually it does. Wizards has a ban list for commander as a format.
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=magic/rules/100cardsingleton-commander

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:29

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:35

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Standard doesn't have an officially recognized banned list. Am I to assume by your logic that it is not a recognized format then? Commander is started to be a recognized FNM format in Europe. If you have some personal hatred of EDH that's fine, your opinion is all yours. That does not mean it is not a real format that is gaining popularity every month and is officially recognized by Wizards of the Coast. The fact they printed planeswalker commanders should be evidence enough that they recognize it.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:39

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Both of you are incorrect on ban lists, standard has one but doesn't have any cards on it, and EDH does have a recognised ban list put in place by Wizards, also, don't dis sheldon he has done so much fr the game

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:43

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^ What do you mean we'll never visit Mirrodin again?

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:46

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Say what?! I wanna go back to Mirrodin, but let's get Zendikar out the way first, coming next year :D

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:49

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I just want another standard skullclamp arcbound deck.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:50

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NO! None of that good sir! xD but new eldrazi and hopefully a good gideon

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:52

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I just want to have Disciple of the Vault, Arcbound Ravager and Skullclamp standard again mkay. To be fair, easier to deal with than standard legal emrakul.


Edit: And myr servitor.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:54

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That would be nice.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:55

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Its fine, emrakul we know won't be reprinted, he is in modern masters 2

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:57

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:58

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He meant Mirrodin next year.

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 00:03

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Again couch hit the nail on the head, although I suspect next year will be a new plane

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 00:06

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Again couch hit the nail on the head, although I suspect next year will be a new plane

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 00:07

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Did you know that epic experiment actually casts the cards it flips? Its pretty amazing for storm. I made a similar modern deck utilizing it.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 21:18

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Yes, Epic Experiment is a fantastic way to help build up your storm count without needing to have an extraordinary amount of cards in hand. But the problems are this:

1) You need to have an insane amount of open mana to be able have X be worth it
2) Unless you are running all fairly low cost spells, zero creatures, and a very minimal land/mana base, the chances of you being able to hit enough spells to get your storm count up high enough to kill your opponent that turn are very slim.
3) This card is sorcery speed, meaning it can only be cast on your turn and it can't be done in response to anything all while being HIGHLY susceptible to being responded to via a counter or other.

It's like the fabled Ace/King pocket cards in texas hold 'em poker, also known as the Anna Kournikova..... It might look good, but it almost never wins.

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 21:31

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The poker analogy was cool, and I agree with the Lord High Admiral of legacy bantaaaaaa

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Posted 11 March 2015 at 23:44

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But only just recently there was a top 8 deck in legacy that didn't have any of the cards that over powers the format plus if I was right there being a viable deck that's capable then surely there could be a deck that's is both a modern and legacy playable with some slight mods to it but still remain at the heart a modern deck. It was a mono black deck with none of the power nine or truly OP cards except a few but still no power nines no brainstorm no ponder nothing so there could always be a deck out there plus since nissa worldwake and chain veil combo is now a thing who knows what the future of magic can behold like I said it's just a designers idea for a deck that can spam multiple formats and be fun cheap and just plain enjoyable.

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 02:07

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Only decks that play blue play brainstorm/ponder etc. Which is about 60% of legacy.
Power nine is banned in every format except Vintage, and they're restricted in vintage.
There are about 5-6 deck archetypes in legacy that will consistently top 8 at a large scale event with a competent pilot. Then there are the tier 1.5 decks that a lot of people don't respect enough to sideboard against, there are about a dozen of those. After that you have tier 2 fringe decks that do not top 8 with any amount of consistency. You might top 8 at a local event of about 25 people.

However, I do agree that there will be cards that completely redefine the meta. After all, look at Delver of Secrets. It is a common card out of the Innistrad block that completely changed the meta in both modern and legacy.
We had fun with treasure cruise, but that quickly got banned and restricted.
So yes. The game does change, it just takes game changing cards.

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 02:25

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Yes I made the mistake of the power nine but what I was just getting at is that no diffenitive answer of no there can't be a deck in both modern and legacy who knows one day they make a card then boom multi format base deck could be possibly built and played with

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 02:38

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 03:43

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But if that card was printed then boom straight under the ban hammer xD

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 18:46

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http://www.mtgvault.com/turbototo/decks/modular-automaton/

I'm a big fan of artifacts, and getting into modern is something i want to do, so i'm just wondering if turn 5 and beyond is a good place to win? Or would this be to slow to shine? Be honest, i'm not a fan of wasting time on money on a doomed project, any good pointers to hand out?

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Posted 12 March 2015 at 23:58

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If you love artefacts, play affinity, wins turn4

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 15:12

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You should also run the artifact lands from original Mirrodin block. They'll help with affinity and count as artifacts for the purposes of cards that play off of you controlling an artifact.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 15:48

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AdmiralBananas he's building Affinity for Modern the artifact lands aren't legal >.>

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 16:07

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Oh okay so he's not actually building affinity but my point still stands.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 16:09

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See. This is why I can't/won't play modern.... the banned list is so dumb lol

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 16:10

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Banned lists are better then Rotating formats.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 16:14

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Actually banned list makes the game better, because otherwise that deck would just dominate unfairly, and banned lists are used in legacy to do the same and to make legacy cheaper

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 17:43

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I understand the point of banned lists, and I agree that they're better than rotating formats. My issue is just comes into play with cards that make no sense for being banned lol. Though lowering the price for legacy isn't a reason behind some of the bans in legacy.

You could make the argument though that it would help to drive competition to make decks to beat others if they start getting to be too rampant. We see it all the time already with the changing metas.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 17:52

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There is an important reason that the artefact lands are banned, they give perfect mana fixing to affinity and make hitting the needed amount to thoughtcast/metalcraft. I think the main aim is so that the meta doesn't get stale, which I really like!

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 18:00

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true but there are some cards that they have banned that make it more dull now like birthing pod but it makes sense for it can brake the game in so many ways but it enables so many too now the art lands may break the game for affinity decks but what about those few painter decks that those lands helped see the ban makes it more challenging but it also shows bias to such decks that can combo ramp or aggro too fast hopefully they take certain cards off the list but it helps to level the battle field to new heights and new opportunities for the next generation to make a mark into magics history think of it like a poet these fields of war we wagger the risks to win all mighty glory and to raise are heads held high and walk tall among the gods and lords of this game of power wisdom and of courage to show that we are truly one of the greatest there could have ever been through love and compassion we stand at the front of the pack to lead others in victory. may we forever be a member of the guild known as Magic the gathering.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:33

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Painterstone doesn't play the artifact lands......

Also, birthing pod needed to be banned, it was more than a tier 1 deck in modern. They did un-ban Golgari Grave-Troll though, hooray for Dredge!

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:37

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What the hell?...

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:39

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Yeah, I stopped reading at what I assumed was supposed to be the end of a sentence.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:41

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Banning cards doesn't usually kill off a deck though which is nice

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:41

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If you don't know why the Artifact lands are banned in Modern then you are pretty slow.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:41

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Birthing Pod just became a Junk version of Jund. Play the good stuff in your colors, just a straight value deck.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:42

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Because calling someone slow is so constructive and supportive................ I think crazy person of the year does go to MrCannabis though xD

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:43

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Did somebody say... VALUE <3 ALL THE VALUE! SIEGE RHINOS AND LINGERING SOULS EVVERYWHERE

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:44

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Hey if the shoe fits.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:44

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If I called someone a total dickhead for their comments maybe the shoe would fit, but I try to avoid that because no one wants to hear that, so explain it and try and help, or please don't comment, Brainstorming is about helping people not shaming people for not knowing something.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:46

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In terms of the artifact lands going into an Affinity deck? What's to explain.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:50

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It boosts their number of artefacts while fixing their mana, simple to explain and now the person knows how it works and grows as a magic player.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:51

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Turn all of your lands into Ancient Tomb gee i wonder what could possibly go wrong when all your lands effectively tap for 2 mana.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:52

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Not to be a grammar nazi but "Artefacts" isn't correct.

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:53

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Then say that! Don't just call someone slow for missing something!

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:53

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OMG EVERYONE THIS JUST IN ARTIFACT LANDS ARE BROKEN IN AFFINITY LISTS! ALERT THE MASSES THE SKY IS FALLING >.>

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 22:56

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no i know why but i ment as flavor for other deck themes and smoother playability and just a fun story

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 23:39

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see to me magic cards are like pages in a story book your reading its story but every time you rearrange them you change the story but stay true to its theme like the few decks that make magic more interesting and fun like super friends your reading a story base on the idea of power rangers/justice league/the avengers/guardians of the galaxy thats why those cards sell not just there greatness but the theme you dont understand what i mean how about this you try remembering a story in your childhood that fell in love with any story time machine sherlock holmes where in the world is carmon sandiego which we all knew where she was it was in her name the whole time if not spoiler it means movie business or money you choose but still try it i love the three musketeers it reps the three parts of a man from childish like behaviors to the sophisticated intellect of the mechanics and strategy maybe once you find you theme deck story that follows a clear path but you can always change it but stay the cores makes for a much better game and more fun at that

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 23:53

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like making a sliver deck theme based on alines the movie i mean the first not the other or predator makes for one hell of a fun theme build and shows a characteristic about yourself and your taste and personality

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Posted 13 March 2015 at 23:59

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Once again I'm lost. Send a rescue party, I've made the mistake of trying to make sense of the above posts xD

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Posted 14 March 2015 at 03:25

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You aren't the only one MrPothead sure lives up to his moniker.

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Posted 14 March 2015 at 03:35

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sooo, i take it that the deck's not gonna work? x)

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Posted 15 March 2015 at 23:39

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