All cards I mentioned are budget and should be easy tradeable. If not we can find replacements.You could clone this deck, name it Version 1.0 and then Update your list here and link the other one here in the description. Then we would know what we currently work with :)Do you plan on keeping 3 colors? If you are going a bit more viable g/w the Selesnya Charm is also powerful.I'm sure we can discover more.Guess you found my deck as it got a like? What you think of it? Especially the 2 drop slow is crowded. So many good potentially good cards :/
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Awsome Idea with the Phantasmal Image.The main deck seems to be the Abzan CoCo deck but shifted to blue.Not sure if its an improvement though!? Also {BBB} on Geralf's Messenger seems unreliable. Is it necessary to deal infinit damage while gaining infinit life on the same combo?btw $1,416.43? Holy cow
Hi there, I'm building a budget white human deck that’s why I stumbled over your deck :)Some problems I noticed here:First of 3 color is often risky in a budget environment.Your deck is 90% white, so if you want to keep all 3 colors w/u and w/g duo land should be your choice. Looking at your color base I’d cut blue though.Prophet of Kruphix is 5 mana for a card that does nothing if you have an empty board and if you have many creatures you should win easier.Invocation of Saint Traft has strong numbers 4/4 body for 3 mana is powerfull. But its highly risky. If you a enchant non-hexproof human with it, your opponent could easily 2for1 you by blocking or lightning-bolting the target…With no need for blue, w/g even has 2 gain lands: Blossoming Sands and Graypelt Refuge, therefore playing 3 of those each will net you the same amount of access to green.Aegis of the God seems to be a True Believer with 1 less toughness for no reason as you will never target yourself?!Evangel of Heliod is interesting. I do like it. If it get close to cmc7 I’m starting to compare cards to Martial Coup as that card is highly flexible and basically wins you the game with 7 mana…Gideon's Avenger + Imposing Sovereign is a sweet liitle combo :)Sigarda, Heron's Grace is sweet to.In a token deck I do like Angelic Skirmisher as she gives them all a nice effect.Chaplain's Blessing, no just no. As a sorcery its slow and gives you no field presents for your card. Soul Warden is a human that gives you much more life in a token deck.If u need immediate life Cathedral Sanctifier at least has a body and does gain 3 life.Raise the Alarm is a nice card in token deck. You are not that committed to tokens (otherwise I’d also recommend Intangible Virtue). In that regard 4x Second Harvest seems a lot? Also they are only soldiers. What do you think of permanent token producers like Thraben Doomsayer or Precinct Captain?Maybe those two are too slow for your deck and you need those the chump block your way to the early game!? Over all I do like some ideas. Hope to have a discussion with you :)
Thanks for the commentBloodflow Connoisseur probably is the best one for the job but non-zombie 3 mana is not worth the efford :(Anything else you would change?
I'd like to join the discussion on the new dredge decks :)Insolent Neonate didnt work out for me. 2nd turn I often needed my normal draw.I added blue for multiple reasons (besides Prized Amalgam beeing blue)Hedron Crab felt way better as the other 1drop besides looting.Still dont know if Narcomoeba is good or not.Playtesting a Fatestitcher he can unearth for free or tap a blocker for 1 mana and enables Cawlers too.Seeing less Lotleth Troll in most decks, he used to be a complete staple. What happend to him?Lastly Prized Amalgam seems underused at the moment. But I cant figure out how to break him.He triggers multiple times per endphase and they do trigger off each other.I often have multiple triggers of the same one on a stack and wished for a sacrifice option.Viscera Seer just seems underwhelming for that spot...p.s. thats my current build, constantly changing though.
thanks a lot. ;)(How did you discover this deck?)
Hi there.With about 200$ I'm not sure on what kind of budget you play.Green does work very nicely for Zombies as Lotleth Troll is such a nice card. I keep it 2 colored for now.Vedalken Ghoul is not my favourit Zombie as he is a 1/1 for cmc2. A Butcher Ghoul or Blood Scrivener do so much more for their mana and work with the cost reduction of Undead Warchief.Never found Ghoulcaller's Chant to be usefull. Early it works as a delayed Undying Evil, late you have the mana to play better cards...Compelling Deterrence has Zombie in his text but if you think about it, its a removal spell if your opponent has no cards in hand otherwise its a bounce spell for 2. Your creatures have deathtouch, do something else with that mana ;)Do those 2 planeswalkers work so far?With 5 mana you could give your entire team +1/1 flying, indestructable with Eldrazi Monument compare that to a Jayce card draw...Form my experience with linear Zombie decks the early game is crutial. Your 1 mana Zombie can't block and the 2 mana zombie should have a 3rd mana available. 3and4 mana are very strong and 5 (see above) should win you the game more or less instantly.-> More early power Festering Goblin/Shambling Goblin could fit that spot.If you want to see a different approach to Zombies feel free to check out my latest deck :Phttp://www.mtgvault.com/germynator/decks/dredging-water-30/
Hi there. Nice budget deck :) I'd cut Ghastly Demise to make the deck modern.Is Tasigur to expensive for you?Somehow I feel getting Imp back into the graveyard could be a problem after you dredged him?!Lotleth Troll might help for that job. Gather the Pack outclasses Commune with the Gods if you play no enchantments.Drown in Filth is a milling removal card, but maybe to risky?Can't think of anything else budget wise. If you want to have a look at my non-budet list feel free to do so :Phttp://www.mtgvault.com/germynator/decks/dredging-water-30/
Okay playtested a bit. Guess 22 to 23 lands are fine.Each card you play has or gets madness, yet you dont use discard mechanics.Heir of Falkenrath should be at 4. If you need Olivia's Bloodsworn can be cut a bit in exchange.Tormenting Voice could be an idea, yet 4to5 mana can be tough with your fast deck.
Is Blood-Cursed Knight worth running a 3rd color? DracoStorm mentioned good alternatives already. Sorin, Solemn Visitor maybe too.I do like the deck as it is. Are 24lands working for you? seems like alot for such a low curve.
Hmm all duo-lands can produce white in your deck. Guess that helps alot. But double green for Courser of Kruphix seems hard to get, but it is a good card.You have green and black one drops but the odds really are against casting them on turn 1...Okay I missed that Reap What Is Sown is an instant. My deck had enough instant speed, so I figured I go for value there. How often do you have 3 creatures on the battlefield to use Reap effectively?Soldier seemed like a good subtheme but its more or less a coincident. Cenn's Tactician basically has Outlast too. He is the only card that uses the fact that they are all soldiers (and Human). Couldn't think of anything else to abuse this.
Hi there :)Martyr has great synergy with Squadron Hawk, what you think?Riot Control vs mass creatures or Awe Strike vs. single attackers are better than Dazzling Reflection?!Serra Ascendant is very expensive, yet very good.I do like Nyx-Fleece Ram as a wall. The moth can only chump block while the lamp gains life constantly.Not sure how Retreat to Emria is in here. You have no card draw and very low many curve. By the time you can play it, you probably are empty handed...Angelic Accord could be a cheap replacement.Otherwise Planeswalker are a good way to create lategame advantage.Ajani, Caller of the Pride is the cheapest with cmc3 works great with lifelink creatures and has a finisher ulti.Elspeth, Knight-Errant on the other hand could create tokens constantly for Soul's Attendant triggers.
Hi therewalkers are expensive mana wise. Therefore some ramp with Signets or Keyrunes could be helpful.Definitely recommend some wraths to stabilise the board.You have a great token base. You could also go down to Orzhov and play a token deck around your walkers.There are many B/W token decks running around. If you like that idea I could recommend more cards, but I don't know your budget...
$19,865.72 averageXDDD
Hi there :)I did like the Outlast mechanic from the start.3 colors in budget seems pretty unplayable (without fetches)Travel Preparations outclasses Reap What Is Sown for my taste.Ordeal of Nylea is one of my favourit cards in that deck.Made a 2 color green/white version of it:http://www.mtgvault.com/germynator/decks/the-soldier-oulasts-budget/Maybe you get some ideas :)
Okay let me clarify my thoughts on the Zhur-Taa Swine It fits the theme very well and it is a creature and a pump spell. That makes it versatile.Yet I think both options are rather bad.It can be cast as a 5/4 creature without an effectFor the same mana you could get e.g.:*Deus of Calamity – a 6/6 trample who destroys lands if unblocked and has devotion 5 for his god*Harbinger of the Hunt – a 5/3 flyer who can shock the entire board for 3 mana*Stonebrow, Krosan Hero – a 4/4 trample who gives every trampling creature (including himself) a +2/2 boost while attacking. As almost all his creatures do trample, that’s basically a lord for his deck.If you use him as a 3 mana pump spell you get +5/4 during your attack only.I compared that to:*Vines of Vastwood - an always castable instant giving hexprove (e.g. vs. Path to Exile) for 1 green mana and for another 1green gives +4/4 as well.For some new thoughts, how about double strike?*Psychotic Fury – draws a card and d-strike for 2*Armed/Dangerous - +1/1 and d-strike
Dont think 1 drops will be that powerfull in a 10$ environment that he needs a counter spell, just for that.Salvage Drone as a value blocker or Peek should do. Wingcrafter is also fun as it will provide flying to another creature
would drop 2 Lands and both Abjure for 4 Tezzeret's Gambit -> it draws two for 3 mana...Ordeal of Thassa could be interesting too. You can proliferate the +1 counters and after 3 attacks you draw 2.If you are looking for counter spells, simple Mana Leak / Remove Soul could do.Playtesting is the most important thing to balance a deck. With decent blue card draw 22 to 21 lands should do :)(depending how often you run into creature removal, Stratus Walk could be better then Aqueous Form. AF is an awsome card, but your creatures die to every red/black removal. Stratus Walk at least replaces itself, therefore you don't lose 2 cards for 1)(Combining instant card draw with counter spells is very powerfull, you leave your mana open and if your opponent doesnt do anything worth countering you can use the mana for drawing...)
I would recommend you cut Abjure to make it a modern deck.Decimator Web gets a poison counter for 4+4mana. Viral Drake is a proliferating infect flyer for the same cost.Inexorable Tide is to expensive for its use. That late into the game you wanto to do something else with 5mana and also hand should almost be empty.Tezzeret's Gambit (or Steady Progress) could solve both problems.Have you considered black or green infect instead of white?All in all a ice budget deck though :)
Hi. I guess you play on a budget list. Therefore I won't recommend cards like Archangel of Thune, Ranger of Eos or Serra Ascendant.You should hope that your creatures dont die. Therefore Lumberknot seems weird.Brood Monitor's 6 mana are alot, you might want to play less then 4.I do like the token vs Soul sister strategie. Brimaz, King of Oreskos or Hero of Bladehold could work.As Eldrazi Displacer makes creatures re-enter the battlefield, you might want to use more creatures that do something on enter?Sylvan Ranger could be easy land searching. Blade Splicer does bring a very strong token.Mentor of the Meek could refuel your hand. 16 Lands could be a bit risky. I think you should run at least 18?!Lastly board wipes are your biggest enemy. Cards like Dauntless Escort or Bathe in Light could protect you.
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