Enduring Ideal

by Gary on 29 July 2006

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

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Deck Description

This is a deck i made after i played a similar deck, which completely annihilated my boros deck at a tournament. I liked the way it worked, so decided to build my own, which i then took to the next tournament and beat the deck that beat my boros. Revenge is sweet.

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Deck Tags

  • Tournament

Deck at a Glance

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Enduring Ideal

seems like a fun deck :) but u need 2 play shock lands..

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Posted 25 October 2006 at 16:23

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I actually found this deck works better without them, it must just be coincidence, but after i took the shocks out i seemed to have the mana i wanted, go figure. :S

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Posted 09 November 2006 at 10:53

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whatever works I guess.

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Posted 27 December 2015 at 15:44

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Any of you people play my sliver deck. Get back to me.

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Posted 19 November 2006 at 22:18

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u need more mana, i mean i cant talk cos of 'my' deck, (check it out, its called forgotten vouge) but yer, it could be really annoying for your opponent.

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Posted 28 November 2006 at 21:40

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nice! coulduse some parylize like pillorys of the sleepless hough....

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Posted 24 January 2007 at 21:56

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Im not sure about the form of the dragons but a nice addition would be pyrohemia, or pestilence. you keep gaing life each turn and with those you can takd them down and keep the field clear of creatures.

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Posted 04 March 2007 at 01:26

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you should check out my deck. tis called (wheres my deck). Its a massivly nice control deck. average win is in about 7 - 8 turns.

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Posted 04 March 2007 at 01:28

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The Forms are a major (but not relied upon) win condition of this deck, the normal tactic is to control the incomings from your opponent long enough to get ideal into play and then play a dragon or two.

I'll take a look at your deck now! :)

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Posted 08 March 2007 at 17:43

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Sterling Groves and Enlightened Tutors. I recommend Aura Shards.

And your Night of Souls betrayal is counter productive with the Honden of Life's Web.

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Posted 05 July 2007 at 02:14

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i would sugest taking out enduring ideal and puting in burning wish or use a quick way to get ideal out and also if you can check out my deck (dermoplasm swap) and comment it please

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Posted 19 September 2007 at 21:26

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IM a noob player i just started playing (1 week) but if you ever found your self needing mana then maby you could use dark steel ingot. Im sure you guys know what it dose but for thoses who dont it gives you 1 land token of your choice of any colour and is indestructable... but im a noob what do i know!

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Posted 10 November 2007 at 23:39

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Seems like a pretty dandy deck :D

Comment mine if you can. Rapid Burn

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Posted 03 December 2007 at 06:32

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try solitary confinement... otherwise GOOD JOB 9/10! Rate mine please!

COUNT ME

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Posted 04 December 2007 at 02:23

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why not add some paradox's haze's in there

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Posted 12 December 2007 at 00:39

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THIS DECK IS FREAK'N AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 29 January 2008 at 07:28

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Try running some of the "Opal" theme. Most commendable, "Opalescence" would be a win card. Very well-thought theme though. Good luck!

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Posted 29 January 2008 at 07:32

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more lans in case of land burn, i dunno, you could try getting the card down to the standard size though

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Posted 11 February 2008 at 08:14

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Looks Like A Fun Deck To Play
Comment On My Deck " Goblin Sac FTW" -Thanks-

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Posted 19 March 2008 at 00:54

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my burn will own. lol

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Posted 15 May 2008 at 15:35

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Might wana bring it down to 60 cards better chance of drawing the cards you need also please comment on my Anti Faerie deck

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Posted 18 May 2008 at 21:21

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zur the enchanter might be a fun addition posting from italy atm XD (live in US)

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Posted 13 June 2008 at 07:36

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i like my enduring ideal deck better

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Posted 04 July 2008 at 03:07

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I always thought of one shrine of each color thing. Thats a cool deck idea though

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Posted 20 July 2008 at 19:21

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Ever have Form of the Dragon become a nut kicker?

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Posted 09 February 2009 at 18:38

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Yeah like i said before i still think your main deck should be 60 cards, i might change the sideboard a bit also ^_^
btw where do i post on the forums if i want my old decks back? and since they were under a different accont can i still get them back?

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Posted 09 February 2009 at 19:22

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A very interesting deck.

Can you please comment on mine.

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Posted 24 February 2009 at 05:11

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Is this deck digital only, or have you been able to play test it? I would think that you may have trouble getting a good start hand where you have the mana to play the cards you drew?

Please comment on my R/W

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Posted 27 February 2009 at 21:25

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bonetastic

can you guys look at my deck please :-)

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=15700

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Posted 04 March 2009 at 00:40

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@DGF It's been a while since I've played this deck but yes, it was real and it won quite a lot. There was enough ways in the deck to either get more mana faster or hold off the enemy with things like the Ghostly Prison until you have enough mana to play the big boys (or enduring ideal of course).

If I didn't get what I wanted in my first couple of hands I would discard down, if I still didn't get anything by the time I had discarded down to about four then I'd just keep the hand and pray. It worked most of the time. :P

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Posted 05 March 2009 at 05:03

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I'm surprised you don't have any Yavimaya Enchantress in this. If you ever felt short on creature power there's no better way to go.

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Posted 13 March 2009 at 17:27

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This is a REALLY cool deck idea but... it seems like way too many things have to go your way for this to be efficient at all, also it does not seem at all proficient at damaging your opponent/ did you consider direct damage??? Cool idea... too many holes.

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Posted 25 March 2009 at 04:56

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cool deck, as for direct damage as suggestedabove, have a look into more domain cards. Tribal Flames...ExplodingBorders...learn to love'em. Check out my 5c deck for casual play.

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Posted 03 April 2009 at 12:03

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Good deck!!! :P
Comment and give hints to my discard deck!!!

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Posted 07 April 2009 at 08:28

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Nice job!

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Posted 12 April 2009 at 18:46

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I played this at a ptq a few yrs ago, It was a pretty tough deck. Enlightened tutors definitely instead of the night of souls betrayal. If you wanted to go off faster you could use drift of phantasms to transmute for enlightened tutor, make sure you always can get whatever you need in hand. Possibly taking out confiscate (seems you have enough tools to control the board once ideal hits).

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Posted 16 April 2009 at 07:16

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nice seems cool
but a bit boring to play

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Posted 19 April 2009 at 09:23

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Um no opalessence? wouldn't that make this better? or how about the paralax wave/tide/ any?

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Posted 20 April 2009 at 15:24

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me like

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Posted 25 April 2009 at 14:11

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Looks good, but my only concern is a fast deck as your opponent. At the tournaments i have gone to, any deck that isn't standard, is fast enough to wipe anyone out very quickly. For example, i played against one person there and knew that they had a very fast deck so i used the fastest one i had (goblins). Got them down to 6 life on the third turn before i had died. This seems like a slow deck and thus may not be able to keep up with opponents.

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Posted 03 May 2009 at 13:52

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wow nice deck, cool idea look at my decks need comments on em all

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Posted 16 May 2009 at 17:35

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how is this deck still alive on turn 7? I would think numerous decks would be able to get around most of these enchantments, or something like tranquility would be game over.

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Posted 20 May 2009 at 23:57

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It is aswome man!!!!!

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Posted 27 May 2009 at 19:26

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But legal amount is 67

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Posted 27 May 2009 at 19:27

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60 sorry

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Posted 27 May 2009 at 19:27

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if anyone is wondering how to deal damage with this deck look at the shrines, enduring ideal, and copy enchanment. that can deal up to 6 damage a turn, along with gaining 12 life, 6 creatures, and their entire hand getting discarded, all during your upkeep. providing it all plays out exactly like planned.

nice deck. just trim it down to 60 cards.

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Posted 02 June 2009 at 17:41

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I would use lotus blooms, and burning wishes to get the main deck ideals up to 7. The dovescape should be in the main deck because after you have a lock you just throw that down and wait for your new form to win the game. I always thought that solitary confinement was a must in these decks. A well timed shrapnel blast = a game loss for you. Boseiju should help you keep your Ordeal from getting countered.

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Posted 19 June 2009 at 12:41

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LOOKS GOOD CHECK OUT MINE AND COMMENT..

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Posted 23 June 2009 at 21:11

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Run some lotus blooms maybe?


~Check out my Elf Forestwalking Deck~

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Posted 01 July 2009 at 11:23

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seem like a great way to win but many people i play with play with enchantment destroyrs in there deck

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Posted 02 July 2009 at 12:36

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Nice. Check out my deck "The Knights Path to Glory" i need help. PLEASE!!

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Posted 21 July 2009 at 06:12

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epic!!!!!! can you please revise my kiki jiki deck?????????

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Posted 30 July 2009 at 15:38

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wow that deck = rape and i've been looking for a card like privileged position forever been think of using it with celestial convergence. Also it wud be much appreciated if you had a look at my b/r control!

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Posted 31 July 2009 at 21:43

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wow that deck = rape and i've been looking for a card like privileged position forever been think of using it with celestial convergence. Also it wud be much appreciated if you had a look at my b/r control!

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Posted 31 July 2009 at 21:43

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sweat deck . i would love to play it. check mine .
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=24805

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Posted 10 August 2009 at 12:01

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personally, i would take out the Night of Souls Betrayal, because it would kill your birds of paradise, as well as the 1/1 tokens that your honden puts into play.

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Posted 10 August 2009 at 19:59

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Posted 17 August 2009 at 15:25

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i didnt know there were enchanments like that wow

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Posted 17 August 2009 at 18:42

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Maelstrom Nexus!!!
put that in and pretty sure you will win
every turn, first spell you play will have cascade (Y)
might helpp

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Posted 21 August 2009 at 11:01

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NICE!!!


- Niv, Mizzet = Benjamin Franklin

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Posted 25 August 2009 at 20:22

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That's gay. Can anyone say 'Netdecking'?

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Posted 28 August 2009 at 17:27

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nice deck, but im some what new to magic, comment my deck im looking for a solid red deck i could use or upgrade, thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=26434

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Posted 28 August 2009 at 21:46

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sick dude. i like the form of dragon/ivory mask/ghostly prison thing. that'd be tough to get around.

mabe look into a raking canopy to complement the form of the dragon even more?

check out my white and blue deck. tell me what you think.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=26027

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Posted 31 August 2009 at 20:24

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Netdecking? Heh... did you not read the description? I played somebody who had a similar deck so decided to build upon it. I took his deck as a base then played around adding/removing things! :)

Thanks for all the comments guys! It's probably time I updated the deck... it's been a while. :P

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Posted 10 September 2009 at 09:14

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Posted 14 September 2009 at 19:55

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i like it. please have a look at my decks. (particually my kithkin, as its one of the only 1s i really have) I dont think im that good at playing, but apparently im good at deck building, so id really like it if my decks actually got noticed by some1.

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Posted 15 September 2009 at 03:06

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I like it, but maybe Katabatic Winds? Drop two on alternating turns and viola! Creatures can't attack you.

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Posted 18 September 2009 at 19:56

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Posted 25 September 2009 at 01:20

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Its a good idea for a deck XD and i like it very much
However, it cannot be used effectively due to the \
Legendary rule installed by mtg recently
if two or more legends are on the field, they are automatically
removed from the field to the graveyard

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Posted 25 September 2009 at 01:22

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lol dominir the legendary rule has been there since LEGENDARY creatures. If you never knew about it then i hope you wherent using 3 of the same legendary on the field. Also the rule is 2 or more Legendary with the same name.

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Posted 13 October 2009 at 08:40

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I tried a similar deck back when Enduring Ideal came out, though I had to use very different cards for budget reasons.

have you considered tossing in the blue honden and Words of Worship? there's nothing quite like gaining 40 life a round (30 from the WoW and 10 from the hondens) and its not like your using your mana for anything anyway after the Ideal is out.

I also found Collapsing Borders, Spirit of Resistance, Faith Healer, and Worship to be very useful, though I wasn't running Night of Soul's Betrayal obviously ;)

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Posted 14 October 2009 at 05:27

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I really love the concept !
I tryed modifying a bit for my tastes (and my funds) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=30499
Birds of Paradise and Wrath of God are expensive D:

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Posted 15 October 2009 at 17:45

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nice deck. but with my luck... I wouldnt get any of the land I would want. But again you said it worked fine. Comment my naya deck please! input is welcome!

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Posted 19 October 2009 at 10:11

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This is a nice restriction deck, my worst nightmare

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Posted 21 October 2009 at 03:39

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maybe some more mana bt other than that this deck looks like it could be pretty fun. rate back

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Posted 26 October 2009 at 23:46

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dude 40-60 cards 79 is defiantly not in that range

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Posted 29 October 2009 at 20:12

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No Solitary Confinement? It's a nice trick, esp with the Hondens. I also love Paradox Haze.

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Posted 03 November 2009 at 20:58

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nice deck check out my elf deck i want to see what you think

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=33326

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Posted 10 November 2009 at 08:43

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i like it please help with my deck
http://mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=33796

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Posted 15 November 2009 at 21:04

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looks like alot of fun to play, has alot of big spells

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Posted 21 November 2009 at 16:28

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I guess i am surprised it won so often. The enduring ideal must have won you many games along with form of the dragon. well done.

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Posted 25 November 2009 at 23:24

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Pretty sweet deck my friend runs one similar to that. Anyways check out my warrior deck I'd like to get a good take on it. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=35152

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Posted 29 November 2009 at 20:18

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I would recommend taking out Ghostly Prison, and replacing it with Windborn Muse. It is basically the same card with legs. Also try getting some land, that has multi-mana production. Please everyone check out my deck, rate and comment, it is called death from above.

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Posted 02 December 2009 at 06:10

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use mirror gallery with more copies of shrines

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Posted 06 December 2009 at 11:13

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Omfg.....

That's a really cool concept there, I might see if I can find those cards cheap on MTGO tonight and try it out. The Kamigawa block wells up tons a good memories for me, as it's the last block I played in before I took my few year break.

Now.

WTF is with everyone? Every other comment is "itz cool but look at MY deck lololol" or "bet it wont beat MY deck COME COMMENT ON IT". Jesus! This isn't your deck don't spam your f***ing s**t all over it. Netiquette? Anyone? It's bad enough everyone apparently failed grade school grammar, but do you have to rape the English language WHILE hijacking someone's post? Maybe this is just par for the course but for f**k's sake...

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Posted 11 December 2009 at 16:14

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I agree I’m glad that this doesn’t happen anymore

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 02:16

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Great Deck! check out my burn deck want some advice before i buy it,

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Posted 30 December 2009 at 23:53

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borderland ranger, harrow, natures lore adds in mana quick
check out my deckk too!

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Posted 01 January 2010 at 21:39

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seems like a really nice deck... i like :)
I'm building my first deck but i need some advice..
I posted it here http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=42153
could you check it out (you seem to know your s**t)
thnx

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Posted 30 January 2010 at 06:25

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Wow nice deck
Do you think you could comment on my decks also

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Posted 02 February 2010 at 18:28

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damn nice deck. You should comment on mine http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=43947

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Posted 12 February 2010 at 00:34

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this deck is really forkin coowl can you help work out any flaws that mine may have (prolly lots )

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=44242

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Posted 14 February 2010 at 12:28

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hey everyone, comment on this deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=44907. I am trying to build this deck really soon and wanted to know if there was any changes I should make.

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Posted 19 February 2010 at 10:55

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it has 64 cards.

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Posted 20 March 2010 at 23:49

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It does indeed! I used to run it differently all the time though, taking things out, adding things in etc. It always seemed to work no matter how many cards it had; 60, 62, 64, whatever! ;)

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Posted 25 March 2010 at 12:04

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Holy poop! This deck is great!

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Posted 04 November 2010 at 21:01

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Just saying that these comments have been going on 4 ever ... Have u been updating this deck sense 06 or is it the same list now as it was originally ?

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Posted 12 February 2011 at 21:36

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I think he’s been updating it, but I don’t know

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 02:17

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Hey gary I kno this isnt anything bout your deck, but how do we put up a picture! Cause I want one

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Posted 16 July 2011 at 22:39

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nice deck, pls come chek out mine http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=269997

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Posted 29 June 2012 at 20:52

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to many COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 29 June 2012 at 20:55

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GREAT DECK!!!

CHECK OUT MY DECKS A WOOD LAND ARMY IS THE BEST ONE

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Posted 29 June 2012 at 22:29

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=320425

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Posted 02 July 2012 at 02:17

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=359744

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Posted 14 July 2012 at 18:38

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i love the concept behind this! seems super fun. you become untouchable which is great. also i appreciate the originality of it all. i have some decks that id appreciate anyone and everyone to look at and give me advise! and again awesome deck

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Posted 18 January 2013 at 01:20

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why not use mind control instead of confiscate?

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Posted 10 February 2013 at 20:02

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Woah this deck is crazy man! (this comment is a test and not factually correct).

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Posted 12 April 2013 at 15:34

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I realllllly like it, but don't you need more ways to get to Enduring Ideal? What if you don't draw it all game? I suggest Lost Auramancers.

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Posted 12 April 2013 at 16:00

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wow the fist deck ever made on mtg vault im going to like it just cuz of that

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Posted 12 July 2013 at 04:08

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Heh, many moons ago now. :)

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Posted 12 July 2013 at 09:53

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Same

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 02:18

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I like this version, but I would atleast trim it down to 60 cards from 64.

Please look at my take at this deck for a modern version
http://www.mtgvault.com/danne601/decks/the-enduring-modern-ideal/

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Posted 05 February 2014 at 10:40

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hey its the first mtg vault deck gary are you still on?

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Posted 10 November 2014 at 04:18

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Of course! :)

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Posted 14 November 2014 at 09:55

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Are you still in 6 years later?

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 02:19

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Of course, I built the site! ;)

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 16:49

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He has a short attention span, so I'd given him a hint that he actually summoned you ;)

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 18:47

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Gary you have my respects then

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 19:31

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Congrats, you have the most viewed deck in the entire mtg vault database.

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Posted 30 December 2014 at 06:37

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That's probably because it's the first public deck

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Posted 24 December 2015 at 21:26

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How the f*ck do you have 6 MILLION views on this?

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Posted 15 May 2017 at 11:45

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WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 20 May 2017 at 17:18

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To be fair, he is one of the mods

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Posted 20 May 2017 at 17:20

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What do you mean by mods?

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 02:19

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Alfred, remember to look at the date of decks ;)
It's been three years.

Gary is one of the people who made the site, being a mod stands for "moderator" which keeps people in line and reinforce proper behaviour.

He last visited about half a year ago I think.

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 08:13

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Thank you

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 12:23

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It is too nostalgic to see the greatness of what was.
Please don't resurrect too many posts!

Let it be, let it beee, let it be, oh let it be,
She speaks her words of wisdom, let it beeee heeee!

*visits a friend, puts on titanic and sobs at shoulder*

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 16:43

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I revived the most popular deck in each category, because of your idea, so
You’re the meaning in my life
You’re the inspiration
You bring feeling to my life
You’re the inspiration

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 17:59

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So this is my fault ? :)
And it looks like gary was listening in, so you should ask him what you always wanted to ask, otherwise you're just leaving him hanging :)

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 18:43

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 19:29

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How does it feel to be the most viewed deck on the entire site?

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 19:31

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Also, try to hang out at the same part of the page where you spoke to him last ;)

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Posted 29 June 2020 at 20:17

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