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Some of you may have heard of Scornful Egotist, the 8 mana 1/1. It's upside? Morph. All in all, generally a bad card. But here I have decided to make a deck around it, with birthing pod, food chain and eldritch evolution to turn the egotist into Iona, ulamog, or Progenitus. This deck is capable of casting ulamog t3 or cheating Progenitus out then. How? Simple:t1: Tropical island, Birds of Paradiset2: Land, morph the egotistt3: Land, turn egoist face up, play evolution or food chain. Get out Progenitus Ulamog (if u can hard cast it), or Iona.
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Props to WotC for being true magicians for making such a shit card good again.
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Yep. Eldritch evolution was what prompted this, but it was technically possible earlier...
It never was a shit card to begin with. It was always meant to abuse the fact it costs 8 but can actually be cast for 3. Remember, it was in Scourge, the set that focussed on exactly that, big converted mana costs. There are many cards that look for high casting costs, even from the time before Scourge. Here is a deck I made 2 years agot around that concept: http://www.mtgvault.com/puschkin/decks/pyromania/But of course, the latest set greatly helps Scournful Egotist, especially the EMERGE mechanic. I am just saying, Scounrful Egotist had his uses before.About the deck:* Have a look at Skyshroud Cutter as an alternative/supplement to Egotist. It may be only 4 mana, however, you don't need any mana to deploy him.* Also have a look at Metamorphosis which is a cheaper albeit one-shot Food Chain. * Since you will "tutor" into your big creatures, you don't need them at 2 copies each. * Consider cards like Scroll Rack or Brainstorm. They not only help you setting up, they can also put any fatty back to your library in the case you drew them but want them in the lib for Evolution.* Whats the purpose of Den Protector in this? You only really need the Regrowth part of it and if that's the case, you'd be better off using Eternal Witness instead.* Your manabase is ... suboptimal. You need almost exclusively green mana plus some blue and red. White and blue mana are never used since you'll cast your Iona, Progenitus and so on via your various tricks. Even in the rare case you are forced to hard-cast them, you'd be better off with a mana-base that supports your main colours, read: Every dualland should have green in it and all your fetchies should be able to fetch forests. That way you can always fetch/BoP 3 white mana or whatever you need. So, no place here for something like Tundra, Plateu or the like - it should be 4 Tropical Island, 4 Taiga, 1 Savannah, 1 Bayou, some rainbowlands like City of Brass and an assortment of fetchies that are able to fetch forests.* Displacement Wave is probably way too slow to achieve anything. Note that you cannot use Food Chain mana to power it. Consider Wash Out insead (if bounce is what you want for defense).
Ok, that's a lot of input, thanks!Sky shroud cutter: That's interesting. It would allow me to get a 6 cmc creature turn 2. I'll consider it.Metamorphosis: It's generally been helpful to have the food chain enchantment out, as if they board wipe or Terminus I can easily restart the combo.Number of big creatures: That has been a topic of some discussion for me. If they kill my Progenitus, I still want to be able to get a Progenitus out. Furthermore, if he's in hand I can't search for him with Eldritch Evolution.Brainstorm: Yeah, that's a good idea, thanks.Eternal Witness or Den Protector: Eternal Witness is better for the regrowth. I ran den protector to add to the confusion of what morph it was, but I guess I'll swap.Displacement Wave/Wash Out: Displacement Wave was a very helpful card against both Legacy Zoo and Legacy Miracles, especially since most of my cards are very high cmc. It also fits the theme...My mana base: It is 100% shit. I recently removed Favor of the Mighty, which is why I was running white. I simply haven't had the time to design a temur (simic focused) mana base. It still works, however, but not at optimum efficiency.Thanks for the advice!FDB
Well, if they can handle the first Progenitus, chances are they can also handle the second and you want something else. The Brainstorm fixes the problem of having the second one in hand. Also, problems like "what if I have the second Progenitus in hand after they killed the first one" happen in, say, 5% of all games, I don't know if you need to prepare for that. I think having a broader selection of fatties instead, that can handle more kinds of situations, would be more beneficial.
Yeah, I agree. Any suggestions for other fatties though?
Never realized it could be used in such a janky way! Maybe some removal to deal with threats early so you can combo slightly more consistently. Love the deck, thumbs up from me!
Seems really slow for a legacy deck, could be refined and done much faster. But does look like a really fun janky deck XD
Emerge is good try that. alosaraus rider is better with eldritch evolution. If you dont care about format then try adding energy tap.
Hey Foolish Deck Builder (wish you could change your user name, as your not a foolish deck builder, and it kinda seems, feels as if I, others are insulting you, calling you names when not doing that. You know that's not true, I know that, we all know that, just still, kinda seems like that, lol)Creative way to use what seemed like to me a bad card. + 1 like Also wish had a way to comment on a nondeck user page, as I want to let you know that I met you half way, took some of your advice on my tier 1.5 Modern Werewolf deck you commented on, liked, said was amazing, suggested that I add 1 more Brimstone Volley to make it a 3 of, instead of a 2 of, and 1 more Chord, to go to 3 Chord, instead of 2 Chord. To do that while keeping 3 1 of planeswalkers as a 3 of group, so that 1 planeswalker get out consistently, since planewalkers didn't get out consistently with only 2 planewalkers, I had to take out the 2 Instigator Gang, add 1 Huntmaster, to goto a 3 of Huntmaster, and either take 1 land out, to go down to 22 lands, 60 cards, or go to 23 lands, 61 cards.Altho Instigator Gang flips into a 8/5 attacking werewolf that can be peeped up big, great target for Mimic, as good as it was, something had to give, and Gang as good as it was, was not as good as everything else, and wasn't as needed as everything else.I also changed 1 Copperline, into 1 Wooded Foothills like you suggested, to go from 2 Gorge, 1 Wooded Foothill to 1 Gorge, 2 Wooded foothills..After playtesting sample hands of making some of your suggested changes, the deck runs at least in sample hands on the sample hand thing, even more amazing then you said it already is amazing.Also since deck only has 4 likes, and is in the unloved section, I was wondering if I could change the deck name to Yo Dek Awe (means the same as Amazing, would add amazing but it won't fit in deck title, as too long)-Foolish Deck Builder, since you said deck is amazing. I just don't get why my deck isn't getting more love, likes. I wasn't expecting, demanding it be a hotpage deck, but I expected it to get about at least 7 to 14 likes, not 4.I checked 550 werewolf decklist (only checked the 1's rated 2+ likes), and didn't find 1 list that either seemed equal, more effective, similar, semi similar, most, almost all used budget werewolf cards (nothing wrong with that tho)Maybe it's because I am new, lack reputation, credibility. Maybe it's because the deck cost is $437 mid price, not low, high price.But could cut the deck cost to $163 and buildable on a budget within 2 to 8 months, and probably still Modern Legal, IF cut all the $273 worth of EXPENSIVE lands.I just don't get it.Anyways if you want to stop in, and see how the deck looks, works now, and comment, if want,then can do that if want.Sorry for commenting here, but there is no user page to post to you this post.
Nice to see you again. Yeah, the whole point of my name is kinda that reaction.Your werewolf deck is great, maybe try using some of the 'MTGVault: The Gathering' stuff. I saw your werewolves deck: it looks amazing and you have provided logical reasons to have your number of cards, I agree with 61.
I personally like it at 61 cards, 23 land, but can see why some may think it's better at 60/22, instead of 61/23. What is MTGVault: The Gathering stuff? Thanks. So Ok to change the deck name temporily, to Yo Dek Awe - Foolish Deck Builder, while unloved, until, if deck get 7 to 13 likes, then change the deck name back to normal?
Sure, if you want. Look at the hot page top decks, they have some interesting forum discussions.