Kill Them With MORE Elves

Um, yes, how'd u get on the page?

unlisted, not private. I got the url off kill them with elves.
check your sideboard size

We should have a standard competition at school
Rules:
Commons/uncommons allowed in any amount
up to 4 rares allowed
up to 2 mythics allowed
No planeswalkers/flip planeswalkers allowed

call it limited budget

Ok... Where did I put the link on Kill Them With Elves?
And how about you can run +4 rares if you run -1 mythic?
And, on a side note, you forgot the pen and pencil you lent O'Ryan. I have them now.

Ok Liam, that would do.
I typed in more because I saw it in the library when you made this deck.

Ok, cool.

oh hay, from an outsider's perspective, having no limit on cards is extremely dangerous. for example, when the game started, there was a 40 card minimum with no limit of card numbers like the 4x thing. 20 lightning bolts and 20 mountains ran rampant during this time.

I think what he meant was 4 ofs of each common or uncommon (unless it's a relentless rats or shadowborn apostle, yada yada) unlike the limits of having at max 2 mythics in the deck and at most 4 rares.

yes

Hi, Cool Deck Liam.

Hi, Cool Deck Liam.
I FINAAAAAALLLLLY Have An Account

Thanks Isaac.

We recently ran a "limited budget" tourney in my playgroup - it was a lot of fun. We used vintage rules - as several of us are longtime players with significant card pools. We didn't limit planeswalkers or anything - just 4 rares/mythics. We realized fairly quickly that this still has issues - we had 1 deck with a tolarian academy and another with Jace in it.... still with in the rules we set - but definitely not a balanced field. We've decided to try a hard cap on the cost of the deck for the next time we try...

On another note - really like the deck idea.
Well Done.

We recently ran a similiar tourney in my playgroup - it was a lot of fun. We used 60 card, singleton decks with vintage banned card rules - as several of us are longtime players with significant card pools. We didn't limit planeswalkers or anything - just 4 rares/mythics. We realized fairly quickly that this still has issues - we had 1 deck with a tolarian academy and another with Jace in it.... still with in the rules we set - but definitely not a balanced field. We've decided to try a hard cap on the cost of the deck for the next time we try...

On another note - really like the deck idea.
Well Done.

We recently ran a similiar tourney in my playgroup - it was a lot of fun. We used 60 card, singleton decks with vintage banned card rules - as several of us are longtime players with significant card pools. We didn't limit planeswalkers or anything - just 4 rares/mythics. We realized fairly quickly that this still has issues - we had 1 deck with a tolarian academy and another with Jace in it.... still with in the rules we set - but definitely not a balanced field. We've decided to try a hard cap on the cost of the deck for the next time we try...

On another note - really like the deck idea.
Well Done.

True, thanks. I better start playtesting it! :-)

Also, rite gives the creatures the ability so they can't tap forcmana the turn they enter due to SS.
(Just making sure you know this.)

I thought that was commonplace. You cant tap for mana unless it has haste when the creature has SS.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's common knowledge. I wish it wasn't true, as I can see a WORLD of interesting things otherwise but...

What a broken state Magic would be in if creature abilities were available on casting... -shudders-

It would be a very broken mechanic and it would be replaced with a rule like SS very quickly.

Yeah, it would stuff EVERYTHING up. Elvish Mystic would be so broken, as would most mana dorks.

exactly.

Well some people have mixed it up in the passed where they thought it acted similar to heritage druid.

And thus heritage during rose to a £20 uncommon. Shit was nutter butter Bro.

And an EMA mythic

Any suggestions? There aren't many in standard - in fact, there are only Gnarlroot trapper and Thronbow Archer.

Oh ok, I would run at least 8 one drop elves, that way you can optimize your turn two play with Dwynen's Elite.

Having 4 Gnarlroot Trapper is a good idea since their mana ability can be super useful, but the Thornbow Archer doesn't strongly affect your visible strategy. Plus, you'd have to drop two more cards to put in two more, and I think you've got a decently balanced playing field as it stands.

Maybe my play style causes me to build different decks, but I'd be concerned I'd flood myself with 1/1's or 1/2's. 6 should be plenty to work with Dwynen's Elite on turn 2. That way, you can get out your larger elves that have more interesting abilities like Shaman, Messenger, or even Dwynen.

Only play-testing will tell, though. Maybe it doesn't matter much with elves, so long as they're on the board for, "per Elf" effects you'll use later on.

My thoughts exactly. Today I'll playtest, so... We'll see!

The game is supposed to be quick(ish) so late game is not viable in any order.

Are you referencing the deck, or MTG itself? It's common for me to have a single draft game go for 30 minutes. Maybe it's different with Standard? Or maybe I'm still subscribed to the old-school way of things, where games could last at least that long. I've been playing Kitchen Table MTG longer than anything competitive.

If you mean the deck should be played quickly, that makes sense. Cripple them right out of the gate and get good damage in early, and by then you have a board full of elves.

I meant by this deck, sorry for confusion.

Yeah, pretty much. I just cripple them right out of the gate and use my numbers of elves to deal damage-mainly through might and shaman. Unfortunately there aren't any similar effects to might in standard - except maybe outnumber - or I would definitely be running them.

It's more of an aggro deck, I had war called for a while in the peasant version but it didn't trigger enough. Thanks for the suggestions, though.! :-)

They are as low as they ever will be, trading into them now is a really good idea!

They are as low as they ever will be, trading into them now is a really good idea! Especially as

Such as...

This deck is quite aggro, bigger elves are too much mana.

To keep this in Standard format, your options at time of writing for, "Bigger elves" are few and far between. Maybe Gladehart Cavalry for it's support ability and life gain, but with this deck, if you haven't run them over by the time you can cast and make use of it, you're probably not doing well anyway.

bfz/ogw elves, such as tajuru pathwarden

Not a good option. A 5/4 vigilance trample just isn't a good enough play.

Good for limited but not for constructed.

How about a beastcaller savant?

I considered it, but decided against. Now I'm rethinking that-maybe swap for Thornbow Archer?

Sideboard Beastcaller and swap with thornbow if their playing elves? or the other way around?

Give feedback to their deck otherwise may not be inclined to help.

I already have some of those, thanks for the advice!

Thanks.

I get very annoyed and then make a good modern version. Lorwyn and Shadowmoor will help a lot...

and zendicar, gotra love cratorhoof! OH and ravinca, with cord of calling, you know, for cratorhoof! HOOF EM!

All the hooves!!

also lys alana

is he played in modern?

Stoneforge masterwork? Coat of arms isn't standard, but it's what you're thinking of.