That's what she said...

Hahahaha, that's like my friend today, he was playing RDW and I was playing big red, and allll we could say was puns. :P
"This match up is really.... hot"
"You killed my guide!" "...burn"
"That's heattttt"

Hahaha, I love big red. :3

Standard is so fun, haha. I love it. :'D You should definitely try it out, it's fun trying to break the format, lol.

I'm glad you like it, man! Thanks! : )

Man, you're the only one outside my group and Sure who makes GOOD standard decks that are unique

*High-five*

My latest standard Extraction is such a blast...it's like lambs to the slaughter O_O

Hahahaha, *high fives back*

Thanks w&b, :3
If you think my previous decks were unique, wait for annastraad and m12... It's time to brew some serious jank, :P

But I really do appreciate the fact that you like my decks, thanks a lot :)

Dude, I can't wait for m12... You will get to taste the ultimate pinger, they've confirmed Grim Lavamancer as a reprint XD Until Basilisk Collar and the fetches rotate out, he will be one of the most played red cards I hope.

I look forward to the jank you design, it's always refreshing and well thought out.


And Sure, of course it slaughters... You actually designed what you play, and a lot of people playing standard are still just netdecking

That, and I play like a Legacy player...

They're reprinting Grim Lavamancer? Wuuuuuuut? That'll be interesting to see how long it'll take standard kids to learn how to use him.

Yeah, I hated having to wait to talk about Grim >_< Never let anybody show you the black book of red... I've known for a while now, and have been trying to think of what to use it in, but it all boiled down to " das uber mensch for splinter twin ". THAT's what I wrote down for my thoughts on Grim in standard.

Also, I've been thinking about making a suicide for standard to amuse myself. Some fun times to be had hopefully with Bob 2.0

Ohhhh man, grim lavamancer <3 I've made a rdw list already. just waiting for the cards to go on the site for m12, and BAM. it's sooo good. <3

But there are a lot of ways around new rdw, like glistening oil might prove very worthy of a sb slot.

Very VERY good Ethan! You're thinking like a Legacy player already, and you've only been pretty limited on which toys you get to play with.

I'm thinking maybe I'll make Goblins for standard once Grim is out, it won't have the mana denial, but it's actually the best suited thought I've had against standard extraction.

Haha why thank you, kind sir. I just don't see why anyone wouldn't like the lavamancer... ohhhh, 2 burn spells in the grave I won't have back? yeah, see ya /ping for 2.

And goblins, before rotation, will be veryyyy god. That new grenade is insane.

And I don't exactly minddd playing against extraction, per se, as I do playing against an extractor. You give just a random guy an extraction deck, and they'll lose 90% of the time. But if you give an extractor and extraction deck... gg. lol

True, but I always seem to find the real ones... Except once, I managed to get one who didn't know how Reanimators played out, and I killed them pretty quickly.

Haha reanimator in standard? now that I'd have to see ; ]

Lol just joking, but a person really didn't know how reanimator played out? ^.-
I don't even play legacy (yet) and I know how they work... lol.

"but it's actually the best suited thought I've had against standard extraction"

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_sounds/lb/goaway.wav

Grim-Gobs are such an annoyance -_-

:P No amount of Monty Python can keep me from being that jerk in standard.

And sadly Ethan, it's not nearly as epic as I'd like. Standard Reanimator just doesn't really have the tools to function right. But I'm glad you understand the decks lol

If reanimator could exist in standard... ohbuddy, lol. I actually thought about starting off legacy with reanimator, but i realllly like tarmogoyf... so I'll probably go rug or something of that sort.

I was thinking, I think it was you w&b who did a natural affinity pyroclasm type combo? Well either way, I liked that a lot, and i think that if I through in some aether vials and a playset of goyfs I'd be cooking! goyf won't die to pyroclasm (he'll get bigger) and then I can use my vials to pump in more dudes. Then add in some blue for some jaces (which have now dropped in price substantially) to bounce their guys, and they can't re-cast them. It would need a lot of tweaking, and possibly fow, but it'd be fun. maybe even natural order to get out something ridiculous, in which they cant respond to with no lands :'D

just an idea (:

I think it was DedWards who did the Natural Affinity deck, I've never been much for red and green myself.
I love reanimator, but it's a bit like extraction in reverse. You don't care what they play, until you sit down. because nine times out of ten you should win game one.

I think if you want to do aggro control in Legacy, Bant and RUG would probably be best suited for your tastes. Both of them are very happy to accept a pair of wallet sculptors if designed in the usual manners.


Your Natural Affinity idea sounds pretty interesting also, I think I'll be paying even closer attention to your page for when you post it :)

Yeah, reanimator was so quirky, thats why I like it. :D

And I think I may just go bant. Although the natrual afinity idea is nice... it doesn't win me the game. So the better deck builder in me will probably just ditch it, lol. I'd rather win with goyfs and vengevines ; ]

and thanks, also! I'll hopefully get a list ground out soon. But at the moment I need to break standard, lol.

Not an easy task.

Urgh, I've got a hard enough time breaking INTO standard to try and break it... It's like a fighter jet pilot deciding to join a submarine crew... And yes Sure, I am stealing/warping your comment on Legacy players going to EDH

It's actually really easy to get into. Hard to predict the meta now, with the fall of jace and stoneforge, but the top decks will probably be Valakut, Vampires, MBC, POSSIBLY pyromancers ascension (it's really good, trust me) and after m12, RDW will be top tier, no doubt.

Eldrazi green MAY have a shred of hope, but with RDW on the rise, it's speed will be it's downfall. Red doesn't need to burn your dudes when they can just burn you, especially with shrine of burning rage.

But black is a color to reckon with. Maybe a combination of red and black could do well, but i think either MBC or RDW will be better off mono-colored.

I agree that Black and Red are going to be the colours to use m12, and I plan on trying my hand at both of them.

My main problem with standard has been the card pool, it's just wrong in my opinion to have a deck running Trinket Mage but not Engineered Explosives for instance. I just really like the options and stability of Legacy, which you have to admit are two areas standard is considerably lacking.

That's what makes standard fun; searching for stability with limited options!
Of course the stability of legacy is far greater than that of standard, the card pool size isn't even close... But in standard you have less threats to worry about, as well.

I don't think standard is lacking options, per se, it just doesn't have as many as legacy. So in comparison it's lacking, yes. But on it's own, it's just not as in depth.

Either way, I love it. (:

Really? Your decks at 48 likes and you still feel the need to spam my deck without comments and or suggestions?

Unforgivable.

haha true dat Ethan

Thanks, man. (:
Glad you like it! :'D

Thanks man, and while this isn't exactly rdw, it's still red and it still wins, lol.

and don't be, man. I don't even know that much. it's one thing to make a deck, it's another to play it and win. I've only ever won 1 fnm. lol.

but yes, sure and w&b know a lot, far more than I. But they're nice enough guys to let me in on their wisdom, so I learn as well. (:

Lucky =). And ya, I meant to say BR. lol

You know, if you ever have a question, feel free to ask! I'm sure either one of us would be more than willing. ^.^

While both of those cards are good, they just don't really fit this type of deck. With all the proliferating, my chalices get really big on their own. And also, koth in this deck ALWAYS goes down when he comes out. He's a form of ramp in himself. So geosurge would sort of be overkill. And moltensteel is either a 4/4 for 4 and 4 life, or a 6 mana 4/4... both ofwhich aren't the best. I'd much rather pay 5 for a 4/4 hasty flyer, that comes back with metalcraft (kuldotha phoenix).

Glad you like the deck, man! And I'll check yours right away (:

You'd be surprised at how often it comes back. with the fall of caw blade, fliers aren't as common, so the fact that it flies and has haste puts you on a clock. even if I can't bring it back, it's a 4/4 hasty flier, which is sick. lol.

thanks man, glad you like it, and ill check yours now. :'D

Man urabrask is sexy as hell.
Nothing gets me hard like seeing a red praetor shoot out of my hand, give all my guys haste and slow down my opponent. <3

but in all seriousness, thanks man!

As far as playability goes, I consider Urabrask to be the best of the praetors. Norn and Sheoldred are tied for a close second. Gitaxias is EPIC, but needs some dickery to work right, and I honestly think Vorinclex is underwhelming.

I agree 100%. Vorinclex sucks so bad... lol.
I mean he's good, but for 8 mana... mehhhh.

I think that dropping an elesh norn is a bit more devastating, though. I mean a go for the throat can solve a sheoldred, but when elesh hits, BAMMMM, your board just prettttty much got wiped.